# The Celebrity Death Pool 2005 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** death-pool\ **Created:** [December 1, 2004, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574 "2004-12-01T21:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/801 "2005-06-27T18:28:32Z")
Nobody picked Chet Helms. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Zamboni)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/802 "2005-06-28T02:52:00Z")
> [@a35362](#): > > Nobody picked Chet Helms. I should change my username to Nobody so I can get all these points. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/803 "2005-06-28T07:42:15Z")
[QUOTE=Sternvogel] Guess it’s a sign of my age that I know Fiedler as Mr. Peterson of _The Bob Newhart Show_, and that I remember Paul “Tigger” Winchell as the host of a kids’ game show called [_Runaround_.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0198223/) QUOTE] I always think of Fiedler as Jack the Ripper on Star Trek. ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/804 "2005-06-28T19:46:29Z")
Nobody picked writer and historian Shelby Foote. ---
**Author:** ![marymargaret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@marymargaret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marymargaret)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/805 "2005-07-01T22:42:50Z")
Luther Vandross has died. Certainly somebody had him on their list. ---
**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/806 "2005-07-01T23:07:53Z")
> [@marymargaret](#): > > Luther Vandross has died. Certainly somebody had him on their list. I believe I did. If I didn’t I still think I deserve credit because I meant to put him on my list. ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/807 "2005-07-01T23:22:16Z")
Ummm, no, **fruitbat**. Sorry. 😛 With the death of Luther Vandross, we welcome to the scoreboard **HelloKitty** , who gets a very respectable 46 points! This is a unique pick. Nobody picked Oscar Brown, Clancy Eccles, Domino Harvey, or Lon McCallister. Say! Since it’s the first of the month, why don’t we do an updated scoreboard? Let’s see now… ---
**Author:** ![marymargaret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@marymargaret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marymargaret)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/808 "2005-07-01T23:25:44Z")
Only one person had Vandross? That is surprising. ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/809 "2005-07-01T23:49:12Z")
With the year half over, as of July 1 the scoreboard stands thusly: **Rachm Qoch** still holds a commanding lead with 140 points. **LilyoftheValley** is in second place with 86 points. **plnnr** follows closely in third with 80 points. **amarone Irreverent Tone** and **VunderBob** are tied for fourth with 72 points each. **Captain Lance Murdoch** , last year’s champ, is in fifth with 63 points. **ladybug** has 53 points. **CowPatty Mehitabel** and **racer 72** are tied with 49 points each. **HelloKitty** , our newest scorer, has 46 points. **Anastasaeon** , a name I just love to type, as well as **Diogenes the Cynic dwc1970 eman77 infamousmom Lockz MissTake Mr. Babbington Mona Lott Omega Glory Pablito Sevo trublmaker yellowval zamboniracer** and **Zsofia** have 37 points each. **amarinth Hal Briston** and **Little Nemo** have 35 points each. **Kilvert’s Pagan** has 33 points. **Yllaria** has 28 points. **Baker** has 25 points. **Iceland\_Blue** has 24 points. **Club 33 Qwisp Skammer** and **Wicked Blue** have 21 points each. **SpoilerVirgin** and **sWitchazel** have 20 points each. **BadBadger** and **BiblioCat** have 19 points each. **a35362** has 18 points. **Agent Foxtrot Andrew21 Anni Anonymous Coward Antigen Arch Trout ataraxy22 Avenger bobkitty booklover brianjedi cadolphin Carm6773 cazzle cbawlmer Cinnamon Girl Cisco clipper _Deva_ DeVena Diceman Dolores Reborn Dotsy A. drewbert drm E. Thorp Earthman edwino Einmon EmperorRoman Etherman 5 time champ fruitbat gobear gonzoron The Great Zamboni hammos1 Happy Lendervedder h.sapiens Hugh Jass imthjckaz Jaade Jamlad Jeep’s Phoenix jsgoddess Kat Lathe of Heaven lel Long Time First Time Lsura Lucretia Lvgeogeek malkavia Max Torque MC$E melondeca Menocchio Miabella Mr. Blue Sky Ms Macphisto Munch Nightwatch Trailer NotWithoutRage owlstretchingtime Padeye Paul in Saudi Priceguy psycat90 qwest Ravenous Lady Rico Rodd Hill Sami41 SandyHook Santos L Halper Scruloose Sean Factotum Shirley Ujest SpazCat Squonk Suburban Plankton Tapioca Dextrin tarragon918 TeaElle Terminus Est Thunder Trillionaire twickster Typically Sunday Uvula Donor Vevila vivalostwages The Vorlon Wallflower watsonwil WIGGUM wolf in second hand clothing WVmom Zog\_10** and **zoogirl** are tied with 16 points each. **Saitou** and **Sternvogel** are tied with 11 points each. and finally **pohjonen** and **Sir Dirx** are tied with 1 point each. Congratulations, scorers! ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/810 "2005-07-02T02:45:56Z")
[Renaldo “Obie” Benson,](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050702/ap_en_mu/obit_benson;_ylt=Aic7Q6FF352wXN1gxUWP3S0nHL8C;_ylu=X3oDMTA3YXYwNDRrBHNlYwM3NjI-) who recorded such hits as “I Can’t Help Myself” and “Baby I Need Your Loving” as a member of the Four Tops, has died at the age of 69. (Linked page also features access to obituary of Luther Vandross.) ---
**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/811 "2005-07-04T23:08:30Z")
[Hank Stram,](http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-obit-stram&prov=ap&type=lgns) former Chiefs head coach, passed on. He was one of the more entertaining head football coaches that have graced an NFL sideline. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew\_21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bcef8e/32.png) [@Andrew\_21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andrew_21)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/812 "2005-07-06T01:44:27Z")
James Stockdale has died. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/813 "2005-07-06T01:57:32Z")
> [@Andrew 21](#): > > James Stockdale has died. That debate left such a bad taste in my mouth that I’ve never recovered from it, politically. Stockdale was a lamb led to slaughter and I hated it. Grr. I’m still mad. ---
**Author:** ![uglybeech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/82dd89/32.png) [@uglybeech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/uglybeech)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/814 "2005-07-06T02:31:38Z")
> [@Andrew 21](#): > > James Stockdale has died. Oh my God, he had Alzheimer’s? That makes it even more horrible to think about that debate. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/815 "2005-07-06T11:35:45Z")
> [@uglybeech](#): > > Oh my God, he had Alzheimer’s? That makes it even more horrible to think about that debate. From what I remember of that debate, it doesn’t suprise me to hear he had Alzheimers. He looked like he was out of it the whole time. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/816 "2005-07-06T12:20:15Z")
Hell, Stockdale spent 7.5 years as a POW in solitary confinement and was repeatedly tortured. No one deserves that. RIP. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/817 "2005-07-06T18:13:20Z")
Hell, I voted for the Perot/Stockdale ticket after watching the VP debate. The man didn’t have Alzheimer’ then, you know, and he gave clear, pithy answers to questions, whereas Gore and Quayle were smarmy, packaged politicians. When asked his position on abortion rights, he simply stated “I believe that what a woman does with her own body is her business, period.” When the debate moderator acted surprised at the short, clear, _honest_ answer, expecting more hot air, he repeated the word “Period!” Isn’t that a guy you could have voted for? And as for those who said he looked uncomfortable on stage, well, try having your leg broken in a POW camp, and you’d probably still be aching. Same thing for the hearing aid. Why did people I knew back then snicker at that? After seeing an article on Medal of Honor winners I wrote to him, a short note of appreciation, and asked, if he cared to, to send me an autograph. I of course supplied a card, and an SASE. I got a lovely reply from him, and the requested autograph. That was about 7 or 8 years ago. I’ll treasure it always. And BTW, I had him in the Death Pool. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/818 "2005-07-06T20:03:48Z")
**Baker** Nice posting and tribute. Yes, I saw that debate too and I felt he did _not_ do as poorly as others have said that he did. (Not just Dopers but commentators, pundits, etc). I remember Stockdale being asked that, given his lack of political experience, what would qualify him to be Vice President (and / or President). He gave another one of those honest, no holds barred answers. I forget the exact wording but his answer was something like “I was a prisoner of war for 7 years. During that time I had to be the leader of a group of men under the harshest of circumstances. Having experienced those extreme conditions, I think I could handle anything that might arise in a political capacity”. Like his answer on abortion, his response was met with stunned silence. Again, it gave the impression (as Baker said) that Stockdale was a guy you could vote for. RIP Jim Stockdale. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/819 "2005-07-07T17:42:55Z")
Writer [Evan Hunter, a/k/a Ed McBain](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050707/ap_on_en_ot/obit_hunter) has died. He was going to be my #1 pick for 2006, as I knew he was very sick with cancer. I will miss him more than I can say. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Zamboni)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2005, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/820 "2005-07-10T00:04:35Z")
I never knew any of that about Stockdale. He really must have been a good person. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574.md?page=42)