# The Celebrity Death Pool 2005

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2004, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574 "2004-12-01T21:22:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 42

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2005, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/821 "2005-07-10T00:15:37Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Isn’t that a guy you could have voted for? And as for those who said he looked uncomfortable on stage, well, try having your leg broken in a POW camp, and you’d probably still be aching. Same thing for the hearing aid. Why did people I knew back then snicker at that?

I don’t know why they snickered, but I know that they did. And I know that he was utterly demolished by the press afterwards, made a laughingstock. It was a horrifying way to treat a man who deserved better.

Up until then, I guess I still had some idealism. I guess I still thought that honesty and sincerity were worth something, even in politics. They weren’t.

And it hurt me to see it.

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Zamboni)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2005, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/822 "2005-07-10T00:23:45Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I don’t know why they snickered, but I know that they did. And I know that he was utterly demolished by the press afterwards, made a laughingstock. It was a horrifying way to treat a man who deserved better.
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> Up until then, I guess I still had some idealism. I guess I still thought that honesty and sincerity were worth something, even in politics. They weren’t.
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> And it hurt me to see it.

They laughed because he didn’t blow smoke and speak hot air. We parody politicians for doing this and for when they don’t.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2005, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/823 "2005-07-10T00:35:34Z")

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> [@The Great Zamboni](#):
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> They laughed because he didn’t blow smoke and speak hot air. We parody politicians for doing this and for when they don’t.

Well he didn’t, and the other two did, which made him look, to their eyes, like a bumpkin. A rube with hearing aids, falling asleep during the debate, and so on and so on.

But it could have gone the other way. They could have chosen to view him as a breath of fresh air. They could have chosen to give him some respect. Instead, it was full-fledged ridicule from the gate.

But let me be honest, I was cringing. I knew he was going to get eviscerated while I was watching the debate. I recognized what the media was going to use as their cues, so I have the same critical, uncharitable view as they do.

The thing is, I’ve got enough of a conscience to be disgusted at myself!

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/824 "2005-07-18T11:40:07Z")

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Former British Prime Minister [Edward Heath](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4691797.stm), 89. I had him last year but not this.

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**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/825 "2005-07-18T14:12:47Z")

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Man, so far for the second year in a row I’m sitting at a big fat Zero! Anyone else still got none?

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/826 "2005-07-18T15:42:07Z")

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> [@Edward The Head](#):
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> Man, so far for the second year in a row I’m sitting at a big fat Zero! Anyone else still got none?

Don’t think so. Everyone else had the Pope. 😛

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/827 "2005-07-18T16:38:00Z")

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> [@Edward The Head](#):
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> Man, so far for the second year in a row I’m sitting at a big fat Zero! Anyone else still got none?

Haven’t scored a point in two years. I post my list, and anyone on it sends me a card thanking me for at least another 365 health filled days.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Goob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@Mr.Goob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Goob)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/828 "2005-07-18T17:59:32Z")

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I’m at zero too. Granted I took some real longshots, but somebody has to keel over.

After lurking for ages I signed up for this, my first ever post was here with my list. Can that get me an honorary bonus point?

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**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/829 "2005-07-19T03:10:01Z")

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It could be worse, I haven’t scored in 10 years. Talk about frustration!

Oh, wait, you mean in the Death pool.

Nevermind.

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**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/830 "2005-07-19T03:31:00Z")

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I’m still sitting at a big zero, too.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/831 "2005-07-19T06:45:13Z")

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[William C. Westmoreland,](http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050719/ap_on_re_us/obit_westmoreland) who commanded U.S. forces in Vietnam from 1964-68, has died at the age of 91. Westmoreland also served as superintendent of the U.S. Military Academy and Army Chief of Staff during a career which saw him attain the rank of colonel by the age of 30 after distinguishing himself in combat during World War II…

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**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/832 "2005-07-20T16:23:59Z")

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[James Doohan](http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/07/20/obit.doohan.ap/index.html)

“James Doohan, the burly chief engineer of the Starship Enterprise in the original “Star Trek” TV series and motion pictures who responded to the command “Beam me up, Scotty,” died early Wednesday. He was 85.”

Damn.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/833 "2005-07-20T17:12:48Z")

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Rest in peace, Scotty.  
I didn’t have him on my list as I thought I did, but he’s probably on a number of others.

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/834 "2005-07-20T17:30:18Z")

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Well, there’s the 15 points I least wanted. ☹  
He was one of the inspirations that led me to be an engineer.

“Bon voyage, Mr. Scott.” Thanks for a great character, Mr. Doohan…

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/835 "2005-07-20T17:41:18Z")

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Doohan is the fourth pick, of my thirteen, to die so far. Geez, I’m an angel of death.

Met him at a con once, when two of us fans won a drawing to have dinner with him. He was rather a snob, and didn’t really talk to us, saving his attention for the other dinner goer, the lady in charge of the con.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/836 "2005-07-20T18:47:57Z")

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It’s about time I got on the friggen board.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/837 "2005-07-20T19:22:47Z")

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I had him, too, and given how much Alzheimer’s ravages a person before it kills them, I’m glad he was carried off. RIP, Jimmy.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/838 "2005-07-20T19:29:28Z")

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Is this the first principle from the orginal series to die? It’s kind of sad to know that the original cast can never be reunited again. ☹

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/839 "2005-07-20T19:37:03Z")

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Nope, DeForrest Kelley(sp?) is dead.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/840 "2005-07-20T19:40:23Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Nope, DeForrest Kelley(sp?) is dead.

Yeah, but he can still come back as bones.

(NurseCarmen now runs away like Napolean Dynamite)

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