# The Celebrity Death Pool 2005

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2004, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574 "2004-12-01T21:22:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/81 "2004-12-03T05:39:13Z")

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1. Karol Józef Wojtyła (Pope John Paul II)
2. William Rehnquist (Chief Justice of the United States)
3. James Watson (scientist)
4. Gerald Ford (presidential klutz)
5. Rosa Parks (protestor)
6. Kim Jong-Il (dictator)
7. Hugh Hefner (playboy)
8. Rupert Murdoch (muckracker)
9. Richard Branson (entrepreneur)
10. Roger Ebert (film critic)
11. Paris Hilton (Stupid Spoiled Whore)
12. Andre Young aka Dr Dre (obligatory hip-hop artist)
13. Charles Manson (psycho)

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/82 "2004-12-03T06:05:08Z")

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1. Pope John Paul II
2. Albert Finney
3. George W. Bush
4. Jean Chretien
5. Kirk Douglas
6. Jose Canseco
7. John Madden
8. Michael Jackson
9. Prince Harry Windsor
10. Ozzy Osbourne
11. Jerry Lewis
12. Carl Reiner
13. Jerry Van Dyke

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/83 "2004-12-03T06:30:28Z")

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1. Doris Day
2. Jane Wyman
3. Walter Cronkite
4. Britney Spears
5. Courtney Love
6. Leonard Nimoy
7. Elton John (Reginald Dwight)
8. B.B. King
9. Bill Cosby
10. Peter O’Toole
11. Patty Duke
12. Karl Malden
13. Faye Wray

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/84 "2004-12-03T12:33:08Z")

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> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#):
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> 1. Faye Wray

Faye Wray has already died in 2004. Reanimation to get points is unethical.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/85 "2004-12-03T13:12:31Z")

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My revised list. Disregard previous

1. Axl Rose
2. Whitney Houston
3. Steve Jobs
4. Elizabeth Taylor
5. Scott Hamilton
6. James Earl Jones
7. Paul Prudhomme
8. Henry Kissinger
9. Colin Farrell
10. Peter O’Toole
11. Ed Koch
12. Jerry Orbach
13. James Brown

No Popes or Gerald Fords for me, I’m going for the win not a tie.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/86 "2004-12-03T13:27:38Z")

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> [@Shirley Ujest](#):
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> Faye Wray has already died in 2004. Reanimation to get points is unethical.

Not to mention that you’d have to kill the zombie yourself, violating the “don’t murder the people on your list” rule.

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/87 "2004-12-03T15:24:18Z")

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> [@SpazCat](#):
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> Not to mention that you’d have to kill the zombie yourself, violating the “don’t murder the people on your list” rule.

Oh if Faye Wray’s zombie was shuffling down Hollywood Blvd, I’m sure someone besides **Ilsa** would kill it.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/88 "2004-12-03T15:35:48Z")

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> [@Sean Factotum](#):
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> Oh if Faye Wray’s zombie was shuffling down Hollywood Blvd, I’m sure someone besides **Ilsa** would kill it.

Would anyone notice?

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**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/89 "2004-12-03T16:31:38Z")

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Okay, here are mine:

1. Pope John Paul II (come on already … )

2. Gerald R. Ford

3. Elizabeth Taylor

4. Prince Phillip (Queen Elizabeth’s husband)  
5 Prince Harry (Aw, I should be shot, but hey, he’s a real long shot! And, in my defense, the prince has been partying heartily of late …)

5. Osama Bin Laden

6. Tony Blair (assassination)

7. Koffi Annan (I know I horribly mis-spelled that!); of the UN (assassination)

8. Kurt Russell (heh - in response to my selection of Goldie Hawn in 2004 …)

9. Sidney Sheldon (unless he already is …!)

10. Courtney Love (keeping the faith alive …)

11. Mick Jagger - there’s only so much that drugs and booze can preserve!  
and last but certainly not least:

12. Placido Domingo

If any of them should happen to _gasp_ kick the bucket -before- 12/31/04, I’;ll make changes to the list (or replace if Sheldon is already gone; I forgot to check on that).

My track record for 2004, though, is (so far …) ZERO points. 😛

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/90 "2004-12-03T16:57:35Z")

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> [@tarragon918](#):
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> and last but certainly not least:
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> 1. Placido Domingo

Nooo!

Though I picked Pavarotti. Now if someone just picks Jose, we can have a Three Tenors trifecta. 😃

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/91 "2004-12-03T18:46:04Z")

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> [@tarragon918](#):
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> My track record for 2004, though, is (so far …) ZERO points. 😛

tarragon’s a virgin…tarragons a vir-gin!  
[points and laughs]

This guarantees me no Dead People in 2005. Where I break my streak of 8 or 9 years of pointage and become a virgin again.

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**Author:** ![booklover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@booklover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/booklover)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/92 "2004-12-03T18:47:10Z")

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In no particular order:

1. Pope John Paul II
2. William Rehnquist
3. George W. Bush
4. Kevin James (actor from “King of Queens”)
5. Lady Bird Johnson
6. Jerry Falwell
7. Al Roker
8. Nelly (the rap star guy)
9. Johnny Oates
10. Elizabeth Taylor
11. Stephen Hawking
12. Bill Cosby
13. Frank Kameny (DC-based gay activist–if he’s not famous enough, substitute Dick Cheney)

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**Author:** ![JavaMaven1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@JavaMaven1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JavaMaven1)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/93 "2004-12-03T19:30:02Z")

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My picks for 2005:

1. Scott Weiland
2. Charleton Heston
3. Shane McGowan
4. Gerald Ford
5. Shirley Temple Black
6. Ringo Starr
7. Ernest Borgnine
8. Richard Pryor
9. Elizabeth Taylor
10. Franco Zeffirelli
11. Joel Grey
12. Mickey Rooney
13. Courtney Love

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**Author:** ![Hugh\_Jass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4da419/32.png) [@Hugh\_Jass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hugh_Jass)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/94 "2004-12-03T19:35:49Z")

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Okay, here goes:

1. Pope John Paul II
2. Hamid Karzai
3. William Rehnquist
4. Ladybird Johnson
5. Joe Gibbs
6. Willie Mays
7. Bobby Hull
8. Pele
9. Loretta Lynn
10. Eric Burdon
11. Diana Ross
12. Grace Slick
13. Bob Denver

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/95 "2004-12-03T23:14:19Z")

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> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#):
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> 1. Doris Day
> 2. Jane Wyman
> 3. Walter Cronkite
> 4. Britney Spears
> 5. Courtney Love
> 6. Leonard Nimoy
> 7. Elton John (Reginald Dwight)
> 8. B.B. King
> 9. Bill Cosby
> 10. Peter O’Toole
> 11. Patty Duke
> 12. Karl Malden
> 13. XXXXXXXXX

1. Larry Hagman

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/96 "2004-12-04T01:53:57Z")

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> [@tarragon918](#):
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> 1. Sidney Sheldon (unless he already is …!)

I was going to suggest you check the [Dead People Server](http://www.dpsinfo.com/dps/snames.html#top), but ol’ Sid doesn’t appear on the linked list of celebrities whose surnames begin with _S_. However, his [official site](http://www.twbookmark.com/features/sidneysheldon/index.html) indicates he’s still very much alive, as does the [Internet Movie Database](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0791084/).

As long as I’m posting, I might as well submit my list (with the understanding I’ll change it if any of my holdovers or newcomers shuffle off this mortal coil in the next four weeks):

KEEPING

1. Joey Bishop – Rat Packer and comedian born in 1918

2. Olivia De Havilland – Actress born in 1916

3. Art Donovan – Pro Football Hall of Famer born in 1925

4. Frank Drake – Scientist born in 1930, his Drake Equation is used to calculate the likelihood of extraterrestrial life.

5. Bob Feller – Baseball Hall of Fame pitcher born in 1918

6. Joan Fontaine – Actress born in 1917, sister of Olivia De Havilland

7. Willie Nelson – Self-styled outlaw singer and guitarist born in 1933

8. Oral Roberts – Evangelist and university founder born in 1918

9. Chuck Yeager – Born in 1923, first pilot to break the sound barrier when he flew the X-1

DROPPING

Betty Hill, Uta Hagen, and Alan King – all died this year  
Stanley Kunitz – poet born in 1905 who won’t be worth any points even if he finally does kick the bucket

ADDING

1. Arthur Miller – Playwright (_Death of a Salesman_) born in 1915

2. Norodom Sihanouk – Born in 1922, recently abdicated after reigning as King of Cambodia and serving in numerous other political positions

3. Gerald Ford – Former President of the United States born in 1913

4. Claudia Alta Taylor “Lady Bird” Johnson – Former First Lady of the United States born in 1912

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**Author:** ![Wallflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Wallflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallflower)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/97 "2004-12-04T02:56:17Z")

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First time I’ve been able to paticipate in this!

1. Scott Weiland
2. James Doohan
3. Jerry Lewis
4. Nancy Reagan
5. Gerald Ford
6. The Pope
7. Courtney Love
8. Viktor Yushchenko
9. Stephen Hawking
10. Ted Kennedy
11. Scott Peterson

Alternates, in order:

1. Michael Jackson
2. Osama bin Laden
3. Elizabeth Taylor

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/98 "2004-12-04T04:22:30Z")

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1. Osama Bin Laden
2. Lindsay Lohan
3. Muhammed Ali
4. Joe Paterno
5. BB King
6. William F. Buckley
7. Nancy Reagan
8. Gary Coleman
9. Michael Jackson
10. Byron Nelson (golfer)
11. William Rhenquist
12. Janet Reno
13. Oprah Winfrey

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/99 "2004-12-04T05:59:20Z")

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1. Kirk Douglas, actor
2. Jimmy Carter, former president
3. Dick Cheney, V.Pres.
4. Pope John Paul II
5. Reverend Billy Graham
6. Sumner Redstone, chairman of Viacom
7. Peter Boyle, actor
8. Elizabeth Taylor, actress
9. Lauren Bacall, actress
10. Peter Falk, actor
11. Andy Rooney, commentator
12. Mickey Rooney, actor
13. Frances Sternhagen, actress

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**Author:** ![LVgeogeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b19c9b/32.png) [@LVgeogeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVgeogeek)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/100 "2004-12-04T07:02:08Z")

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OK, here is my submission for the Death Pool 2005:

1. Fidel Castro, dictator
2. Jimmy Carter, ex-president
3. Gerald Ford, ex- president
4. Pope John Paul II
5. Dan Rather, newscaster
6. William Rehnquist, SCOTUS
7. Keith Richards, Roling Stones
8. Kirk Douglas, actor
9. Wilford Brimley, actor
10. Jerry Stiller, comedian
11. Jerry Lewis, comedian
12. Kris Kristofferson, country singer
13. Marlon Brando, actor

Alternates: (to be used in this order)

1. Abe Vigoda, actor
2. Courtney Love, musician
3. Paris HIlton, spoiled brat/heiress

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