# The Celebrity Death Pool 2007

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 2, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620 "2006-12-02T22:07:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/301 "2006-12-30T02:56:20Z")

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The most macabre thread in cyberspace. Cool!

1. Donald Rumsfeld

2. Danny Bonaduce

3. Shigeru Miyamoto

4. Kirk Cameron

5. Fidel Castro

6. Ed McMahon

7. Tommy LaSorda

8. Jerry Lewis

9. Pervez Musharraf

10. Ariel Sharon

11. Lady Bird Johnson

12. Nancy Reagan

13. Mr. T.

Alternates:

Joe Scarborough

“Rowdy” Roddy Piper

Phil Donahue

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/302 "2006-12-30T03:28:58Z")

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Well, Fidel Castro, Tammy Messner, and Ariel Sharon are win, place, and show so far. Tied for fourth place are Billy Graham and Kirk Douglas. Mohammed Ali is in fifth, having moved up a little, and Elizabeth Taylor is right on his heels. Margaret Thatcher and Farrah Fawcett and seventh and eighth, Dick Clark is ninth, and nancy Reagan is 10th, with Lindsay Lohan and Lady Bird Johnson in a tie for 11th place.

I probably won’t post my choices until Sunday morning, but I can see only one change I will make from the popular list, as it stands then. I want to have Fred Phelps on my list, just to derive a little satisfaction if he finally goes to meet his Master.(And I ain’t referring to God!)

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/303 "2006-12-30T04:15:09Z")

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OK, I’m back in, despite the fact that I suck at this game 🙂

1. Fidel Castro (leader of Cuba)

2. Tammy Faye Messner (evangelist, ex-wife of Jim Bakker)

3. Ted Kennedy (senator)

4. Dick Cheney (vice president)

5. Sandra Day O’Connor (former supreme court justice)

6. “Lady Bird” Johnson (former first lady. Yeah, there’s going to be a lot of dead political figures this year. Of course, I’ve said this for the last two years now.)

7. Elizabeth Taylor (actress)

8. Jack Kevorkian (assisted suicide activist)

9. Mohammed Ali (boxer)

10. Ariel Sharon (Israeli prime minister)

11. Tim Johnson (senator who suffered stroke-like ailment)

12. Osama bin Laden (terrorist bastard)

13. Hugh Hefner (Playboy founder)

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/304 "2006-12-30T04:31:09Z")

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Sorry, I forgot my alternate pick:

Mel Brooks (actor/director/producer)

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/305 "2006-12-30T05:36:02Z")

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A ruling please…

Suppose I choose a dictator, like Saddam, BEFORE he is sentenced to death. Maybe even before he is charged with a crime. And then later, he is charged, sentenced and executed in short order.

This could conceivably happen to any number of dictators, and has happened a number of times historically – Romania, Afghanistan, Tsarist Russia, Chile, are a few places that come to mind. Some kind of revolution/coup/“regime change” that is capped off by a show trial or summary judgement by the new regime, and quickie execution.

It is my feeling that these should be worth some points, but of course I submit myself to the wisdom of the judges.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/306 "2006-12-30T10:47:39Z")

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Let’s see if I can break my duck

Deathlist 2007  
01 Robert Jordan (Author)  
02 Dick Cheney (U.S. VP)  
03 Margaret Thatcher (ex-PM)  
04 Dame Vera Lynn (WW2 singer)  
05 Mikhail Gorbachev (ex-Premier of Soviet Union)  
06 Fidel Castro (President of Cuba)  
07 Raul Castro (Fidel’s brother)  
08 Ariel Sharon (ex-PM of Israel)  
09 Michael J Fox (Actor)  
10 Jenni Murray (Radio / TV presenter)  
11 Meg Rosoff (Author)  
12 Prince Philip (Husband of QE2)  
13 Terry Jones (TV presenter and Python star)

Alternates:

14 Queen Elizabeth II (Monarch)  
15 Jimmy Carter (Ex-President),  
16 Gary Gygax (co-inventor of D&D)

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**Author:** ![Horseflesh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horseflesh/32/7502_2.png) [@Horseflesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horseflesh)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/307 "2006-12-30T11:17:05Z")

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Hoping to make some unique (yet viable) picks this year:

**The Old**

1. Philip José Farmer, 88 (author)
2. Ricardo Montalban, 86 (island activity director, Kirk nemesis)
3. Frederick Pohl, 87 (author)

**The Infirm**  
4. Lamar Lundy, 71 (former Rams, lotsa serious health problems)  
5. Bobby Murcer, 61 (former Yankee and Giant, undergoing brain tumor surgery)  
6. Debbie Mathers-Briggs, 50 (Eminem’s mom, stage 4 breast cancer)

**The Incarcerated**  
7. Vojislav Šešelj, 52 (former Serbian politician, in bad health due to hunger strike in prison)  
8. Ayman Abd El Aziz Nour, 42 (Egyptian political prisoner in poor health)  
9. Diepreye Alamieyeseigha, 54 (recently impeached governer of Bayelsa State in Nigeria, cardiac problems & diabetes)  
10. Dr. Aref Dalila, 64 (Syrian political/academic prisoner, heart disease & diabetes, refuses treatment)  
11. Omar Abdel-Rahman aka the Blind Sheik, 68 (convicted terrorist in a Colorado prison, recently found a tumor on his liver and is coughing up blood)

**The Jackpots**  
12. Brandon Cole “Bam” Margera, 28 (Jackass & CKY alumni)  
13. John Jackson aka Fabolous, 29 (obligatory rap artist pick, shot (non-fatal) in October this year)

Alternates:  
Max Von Sydow, 77 (exorcist, brewmeister, purgatory guide)  
Carol Burnett, 73 (comedian, actress, animated cleaning lady)  
Holly Johnson, 46 (former FGTH lead singer, HIV-positive since '91)  
George Wendt, 58 (SCTV alumni, actor… just saw him in _Masters of Horror_ and he’s bigger than ever)  
Michael Flatley, 48 (dancer, showoff, hospitalized in November for a serious illness)

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/308 "2006-12-30T13:14:41Z")

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Hmmm, an interesting list **Horseflesh**. Obviously well researched.

But I hate to inform you that two of those picks aren’t unique! 😛

You may ply me with chocolate if you want to know which ones they are! 😉

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**Author:** ![Horseflesh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horseflesh/32/7502_2.png) [@Horseflesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horseflesh)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/309 "2006-12-30T15:39:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Baker]  
You may ply me with chocolate if you want to know which ones they are! 😉  
[/QUOTE]

Oh, I’ll cover you in chocolate alright…

And by the light of the full moon, at the height of the witching hour, I’ll…ah…oops! Wrong thread. :eek:

_goes back to reread thread_

:grumble: I already knocked 8 people off my list the first time through…

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/310 "2006-12-30T17:38:25Z")

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Well, it turns out I’ve already broken my duck with Pinochet (9) and Ford (7) for a grand total of 16 points in 2006!

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/311 "2006-12-30T17:40:19Z")

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Horseflesh, if you want all unique picks you have to dump Bobby Murcer and Omar the Blind Sheik

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/312 "2006-12-30T19:36:02Z")

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“Break my duck”?? That’s a new one.

On second thought, I don’t wanna know.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/313 "2006-12-30T20:08:26Z")

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**Boyo Jim** - your query was answered in the 2006 thread. Execution is not a scoreable death. It makes no difference what the status of the executed individual was at the start of the Pool.

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**Author:** ![qubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f07891/32.png) [@qubed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/qubed)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/314 "2006-12-30T20:20:30Z")

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I’ve been meaning to do this for a couple of years, but I keep forgetting. Here’s my picks:

1. Betty Ford
2. Fidel Castro
3. Martin Sheen
4. Boutros Boutros-Ghali
5. Muhammad Ali
6. Paris Hilton
7. George Herbert Walker Bush (former prez)
8. Jerry Falwell
9. Ariel Sharon
10. Nelson Mandela
11. Gerhard Richter (Painter, Born Feb 9, 1932)
12. Billy Graham
13. Sandra Day O’Connor

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**Author:** ![wolf\_in\_second\_hand\_clothing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9d8465/32.png) [@wolf\_in\_second\_hand\_clothing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_in_second_hand_clothing)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/315 "2006-12-30T22:39:25Z")

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Ok, here are my picks.

1. Fidel Castro (this year’s slam dunk)
2. Nicole Ritchie
3. Danny Bonaduce
4. Vern Troyer
5. Ted Haggard
6. Michael Jackson
7. Warren Buffett
8. Bea Arthur
9. Dick Cheney
10. Charleton Heston
11. Wilford Brimley
12. Lindsay Lohan
13. Kurt Douglas

Alternate: Chuck Lowry

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**Author:** ![Saitou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Saitou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saitou)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/316 "2006-12-30T23:16:08Z")

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[list=13]  
[li]Sir Arthur C. Clarke[/li][li]Barbara Feldon[/li][li]John Forsythe [/li][li]Jürgen Habermas[/li][li]Eartha Kitt[/li][li]Jean Marsh[/li][li]Sir Patrick Moore[/li][li]Diana Muldaur[/li][li]Javier Pérez de Cuéllar[/li][li]Yitzhak Shamir[/li][li]Sir Cyril Smith[/li][li]Jean Stapleton[/li][li]Kurt Waldheim[/li][/list]

Alternates:  
Maximilian Schell  
Claude Lévi-Strauss

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**Author:** ![feppytweed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/feppytweed/32/4280_2.png) [@feppytweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/feppytweed)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/317 "2006-12-30T23:50:20Z")

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After watching this pass by for a few years, I guess I’ll take a stab at it…

1. Jimmy Carter-Oldest remaining president
2. Fidel Castro-Cuban DIctator
3. Billy Graham-Christian Evangelist
4. Mick Jagger-Front Man for the Stones
5. Ron White-Comedian
6. The King of Saudi Arabia (Abdulla bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud)
7. Kate Moss-Actress
8. Ted Danson-Actor. Not too old, but the grey hair…
9. Chuck Berry-Musician
10. Angela Lansbury-Actress
11. Julie Andrews-Actress
12. Andy Griffith-Actor
13. Jukka Hilden (one of the Dudesons- a Jackass-like tv show on Spike)

Alternates- Ariel Sharon, Bob Barker

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/318 "2006-12-30T23:56:57Z")

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[QUOTE=feppytweed]  
8. Ted Danson-Actor. Not too old, but the grey hair…  
[/QUOTE]  
Yeah, that’ll kill you. Steve Martin is another sure bet…

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**Author:** ![Horseflesh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horseflesh/32/7502_2.png) [@Horseflesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horseflesh)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2006, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/319 "2006-12-31T00:04:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Baker]  
Horseflesh, if you want all unique picks you have to dump Bobby Murcer and Omar the Blind Sheik  
[/QUOTE]  
Yeah, yeah, I forgot you could use the thread search option. 😛

Hokay, off with Sheik-boy and Murcer (he came through the surgery okay anyway), shuffle Max up onto the board, drop in Tariq Aziz, and give pretty-boy Richard Hammond first alternate status. And so…

**The Old**

1. Philip José Farmer, 88 (author)
2. Ricardo Montalban, 86 (island activity director, Kirk nemesis)
3. Frederick Pohl, 87 (author)
4. Max Von Sydow, 77 (exorcist, brewmeister, purgatory guide)

**The Infirm**  
5. Lamar Lundy, 71 (former Rams, lotsa serious health problems)  
6. Debbie Mathers-Briggs, 50 (Eminem’s mom, stage 4 breast cancer)  
7. Tariq Aziz aka Tareq Aziz aka Mikhail Yuhanna, 70 (former Saddam Hussein crony, estimated with a month to live)

**The Incarcerated**  
8. Vojislav Šešelj, 52 (former Serbian politician, in bad health due to hunger strike in prison)  
9. Ayman Abd El Aziz Nour, 42 (Egyptian political prisoner in poor health)  
10. Diepreye Alamieyeseigha, 54 (recently impeached governer of Bayelsa State in Nigeria, cardiac problems & diabetes)  
11. Dr. Aref Dalila, 64 (Syrian political/academic prisoner, heart disease & diabetes, refuses treatment)

**The Jackpots**  
12. Brandon Cole “Bam” Margera, 28 (Jackass & CKY alumni)  
13. John Jackson aka Fabolous, 29 (obligatory rap artist pick, shot (non-fatal) in October this year)

Alternates:  
Richard Hammond, 36 (Top Gear host, loves really fast cars, nearly died in September)  
Carol Burnett, 73 (comedian, actress, animated cleaning lady)  
Holly Johnson, 46 (former FGTH lead singer, HIV-positive since '91)  
George Wendt, 58 (SCTV alumni, actor… just saw him in Masters of Horror and he’s bigger than ever)  
Michael Flatley, 48 (dancer, showoff, hospitalized in November for a serious illness)

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2006, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/320 "2006-12-31T00:11:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Horseflesh]

**The Incarcerated**  
8. Vojislav Šešelj, 52 (former Serbian politician, in bad health due to hunger strike in prison)  
9. Ayman Abd El Aziz Nour, 42 (Egyptian political prisoner in poor health)  
10. Diepreye Alamieyeseigha, 54 (recently impeached governer of Bayelsa State in Nigeria, cardiac problems & diabetes)  
11. Dr. Aref Dalila, 64 (Syrian political/academic prisoner, heart disease & diabetes, refuses treatment)

[/QUOTE]

:dubious:

[QUOTE=Rules of the Pool]  
3. Valid picks are not:

…

f. political prisoners, 'cause we’re macabre but not THAT macabre. Please see Rule 7 regarding the likes of Saddam Hussein.  
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