# The Celebrity Death Pool 2007

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 2, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620 "2006-12-02T22:07:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/161 "2006-12-15T14:42:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Superbia-acedia]  
10. Suzanne Pleshette  
11. Tom Poston

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Interesting. Muder-suicide pact or firey car crash?

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/162 "2006-12-15T16:15:58Z")

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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]  
Why don’t we all just take 20 points and choose someone other than Castro? 🙂  
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> [@](#):
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> Cuban President Fidel Castro is very ill and close to death, Director of National Intelligence John D. Negroponte said yesterday.
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> “Everything we see indicates it will not be much longer . . . months, not years,” Negroponte told a meeting of Washington Post editors and reporters.
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> Castro relinquished power for the first time in 47 years after surgery July 31 for an undisclosed intestinal disorder. His brother, Raul, has assumed Castro’s duties, but Cuban authorities have repeatedly insisted that he is recovering and eventually will return to office. He was last seen in an Oct. 28 video, shown on Cuban national television, in which he appeared gaunt and weak and warned that his convalescence would be lengthy.
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> The Cuban leader did not show up as anticipated at a Dec. 2 national celebration in Havana scheduled to commemorate his 80th birthday and the 50th anniversary of the Cuban revolution. In a brief speech at the event, Raul Castro imparted no message from his brother but said that Cuba is willing to open negotiations with the United States “to settle the long U.S.-Cuba disagreement.”

Source: [Washington Post - 15 December 2006](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/14/AR2006121401476_pf.html)

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/163 "2006-12-15T18:11:32Z")

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It appears that my suggestion will soon be a moot point. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/164 "2006-12-15T18:30:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Trillionaire]  
\*\*Meat Loaf \*\* (aka Marvin Aday - singer / actor)  
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I think he goes by Michael now, not Marvin. But I could be wrong. This guy’s got more aliases than Pierce Brosnans character in _Remmington Steele_.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/165 "2006-12-17T01:33:06Z")

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As always, a joint entry for **SpoilerVirgin** and **psychobunny** :

1. Ruben Studdard
2. Courtney Love
3. Gary Coleman
4. Elizabeth Taylor
5. Tammy Faye Messner
6. Fidel Castro
7. Dick Clark
8. Liza Minelli
9. John McLaughlin
10. Gina Lollabridgida
11. Roy Horn
12. Soup Sales
13. Annette Funicello

Alternates: Dana Carvey, Bea Arthur, Allyn Ann McLerie

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/166 "2006-12-17T01:34:54Z")

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Correction: Number 12 should be Soupy Sales.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/167 "2006-12-17T06:53:19Z")

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Welp, looks like I’ll be running the same list…AGAIN…with only one change:

Lilian Jackson Braun–b. 1912 (The author who…)  
Gerald Ford–b. 1913 ('Cause you have to have at least one ex-Prez on the list)  
Kirk Douglas–b. 1916 (He ain’t Spartacus no more)  
Olivia de Haviland–b. 1916 (Welcome to the list!)  
Arthur C. Clarke–b. 1917 (I’ll be sad when he becomes a Starchild)  
Billy Graham–b. 1918 (He’s already picking his final resting place)  
John Glenn–b. 1921 (Astro-senator)  
Jesse Helms–b. 1921 (Please die and remove your embarassing self from my state)  
Lee Iaccocca–b. 1924 (My favorite unique pick)  
Dick Van Dyke–b. 1925 (On my list for the “Keep Alive” properties)  
Jerry Lewis–b. 1926 (Froinlaven!)  
Peter Falk–b. 1927 (He’ll just have one more question)  
Stephen Hawking–b. 1942 (I lost a beloved teacher to Lou Gherig’s this year. He’s lasted longer than she did)

Same Old Alternates:  
Anne Rice–b. 1941 (Poster girl for Losing Your Sh!t)  
Keith Richards–b. 1943 (The Energizer Bunny of rockers)  
John Goodman–b. 1952 (A young’un compared to the rest)

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/168 "2006-12-17T07:30:30Z")

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I could be wrong, but I thought Hawking doesn’t actually have ALS/Gherig’s. That’s what he was diagnosed with in the 1960s, when he first started showing symptoms, but I thought that now his progression, plus the fact that he’s outlasted all reasonable projections, has ruled out ALS, and that if they ever figure out what he does have, it will be Hawkings’ Disease. (I could be wrong, though.)

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/169 "2006-12-17T08:07:43Z")

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Here are mine:

1. Nicole Richie

2. Danny Bonaduce

3. George HW Bush

4. Arnold Schwarznegger

5. Steve Largent

6. Mike Tyson

7. Colin Farrell

8. Colin Quinn

9. Dolly Parton

10. Paul McCartney

11. Jeremy Irons

12. Ron Jeremy

13. John Carpenter

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/170 "2006-12-17T08:09:30Z")

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[QUOTE=SpoilerVirgin]  
Correction: Number 12 should be Soupy Sales.  
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I was gonna say, What are you in the marketing department at Campbell’s?

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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/171 "2006-12-17T10:19:48Z")

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[QUOTE=anyrose]  
Well, one person in the 2006 thread seems to have been dead-on-balls accurate (to quote Marisa Tomei in “My Cousin Vinny”)  
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It’s an industry toim.

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**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/172 "2006-12-17T15:35:20Z")

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It’s the most wonderful time of the year! Time to submit the 2007 Death Pool list. Whereas last year’s (low scoring) list was the collaboration of myself and **El Perro Fumando** , before she had gotten her own membership, this one is all my own, and let her post hers. Bragging rights within the home are at stake.

1. Nancy Reagan (b 7/6/21) - Former First Lady and Drug Warrior
2. Sen. Tim Johnson (b 12/28/46) - Hanging by a thread (as are the Democrats chances of retaining Senate control)
3. Nicole Richie (b 9/21/81) - Coked out, overexposed celebrity whore.
4. Lindsay Lohan (b 7/2/86) - see Nicole Richie.
5. Elizabeth Taylor (b 2/27/32) - Perfumer and Queen of Ancient Egypt.
6. Tammy Faye Bakker Messner (b 3/7/42) - Televangelista and walking advertisement against wearing too much makeup.
7. Liza Minelli (b 3/12/46) - What good is sitting alone in your room? Come hear the music play!
8. Ariel Sharon (b 2/27/28) - Former Israeli Prime Minister, current spud.
9. Muhammad Ali (b 1/17/42) - Saul: Goddammit. If a man wants to call himself Muhammed Ali, I say Muhammed Ali.  
Clarence: Mama call him Clay - I call him Clay. Cassius Clay.
10. Earl Simmons (aka DMX) (b12/18/70) - I’m hoping for another banner year in petty rap turf wars. Or a drug purchase gone sour.
11. Tom Jones (b 6/7/40) - Faded Vegas singer, not the Henry Fielding character.
12. Arnold Palmer (b 9/10/29) - Legendary golfer.
13. Fidel Castro (b 8/13/26) - Cuban dictator.

Alt:  
a. Bob Barker (12/12/23) - Retiring _Price is Right_ host. Come on down, Bob.  
b. Gerald Ford (b 7/14/13) - Ex-president.

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**Author:** ![El\_Perro\_Fumando](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e9c0ed/32.png) [@El\_Perro\_Fumando](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Perro_Fumando)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/173 "2006-12-17T15:36:27Z")

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My first entry! I helped **Only Mostly Dead** last year with his list, but now that I have my own account, let the in-house rivalry begin!

1. Ariel Sharon (b. 2/27/1928)
2. Gary Player (b. 11/1/1935)
3. Marion Barry (b. 3/6/1936)
4. Hugh Hefner (b. 4/9/1926)
5. Louis Farrakhan (b. 5/11/1933)
6. Terrell “T.O.” Owens (b. 12/7/1973)
7. Haley Joel Osment (b. 4/10/1988)
8. Joe Paterno (b. 12/21/1926)
9. Fidel Castro (b. 8/13/1926)
10. Tammy Faye Bakker-Messner (b. 3/7/1942)
11. Lindsay Lohan (b. 7/2/1986)
12. Sen. Tim Johnson (D – S.D.) (b. 12/28/1946)
13. Calvin Cordozar Broadus, Jr. (a.k.a. Snoop Dogg) (b. 10/20/1971)

Alternates  
14. Margaret Thatcher (b. 10/13/1925)  
15. Gene Wilder (b. 6/11/1933)  
16. Bob Dylan (b. 5/24/1941)

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/174 "2006-12-17T20:30:20Z")

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Last year I tried to go for all solo picks and went 1 for 13. This year, let’s jump on some bandwagons.

1. Gerald Ford (former president; July 14, 1913)
2. Fidel Castro (Cuban dictator; August 13, 1926)
3. Ariel Sharon (former Israeli PM; Feb 27, 1928)
4. Farah Fawcett (Actress; Feb. 2, 1947)
5. Zsa Zsa Gabor (Professional celebrity; Feb 6, 1917?)
6. Earl Butz (Former Secy of Agriculture; July 3, 1909)
7. Jean Paul Belmondo (French actor; April 9, 1933)
8. Luise Rainer (actress; January 12, 1910)
9. Roger Ebert (film critic; June 18, 1942)
10. Charlton Heston (actor; Oct. 4, 1923)
11. Jack Kevorkian (‘Dr. Death’; May 29, 1928)
12. Art Buchwald (columnist; Oct. 20, 1925)
13. Ronnie Biggs (train robber; Aug 8, 1929)

Alternates:

1. Gian Carlo Menotti (composer; July 7, 1911)
2. Kirk Douglas (actor; Dec. 9, 1916)
3. Don Ho (singer; Aug 13, 1930)

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**Author:** ![moonstarssun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@moonstarssun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonstarssun)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/175 "2006-12-18T03:51:45Z")

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I’m going for quantity this year after my miserable 2006 showing (two picks, worth a total of 21 points). So let’s see how this works:

1. Farah Fawcett
2. Lady Bird Johnson
3. Kirk Douglas
4. Suzanne Pleshette
5. Billly Graham
6. Fran Drescher
7. Muhammad Ali
8. Charlton Heston
9. Fidel Castro
10. Stephen Hawking
11. Mickey Rooney
12. Elizabeth Taylor
13. Jesse Helms

Alternates:  
Claude Levi-Strauss  
Ernest Gallo  
Gerald Ford

Four of my picks are repeats from this year, and one of my alternates was on the 2006 list.

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**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/176 "2006-12-18T04:25:57Z")

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Haven’t done this before, but one just occurred to me the other day so perhaps this is the time to join in:

1. Sharon Osborne
2. Cher
3. Nancy Reagan
4. Kirsten Dunst
5. Hillary Clinton
6. Ashlee Simpson
7. Olympia Dukakis
8. Rosie O’Donnell
9. J.K. Rowling
10. Melissa Etheridge
11. Barbara Walters
12. Linda Ellerbee
13. Ann Coulter

A1. Dick Cheney  
A2. George W. Bush  
A3. Donald Rumsfeld

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/177 "2006-12-18T10:45:19Z")

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I know that the rules state that list submissions must be in by midnight 12/31, CDT in the US.

But what about deaths, if exact time can be established? If it’s already 1/1 somewhere, but still 12/31 in the Central US time zone, when would a choice count or not?

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/178 "2006-12-18T13:06:42Z")

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I think it would be bad form to resubmit your list mere seconds before New Year’s just to take advantage of a late death.

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/179 "2006-12-18T13:09:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Sean Factotum]  
I think it would be bad form to resubmit your list mere seconds before New Year’s just to take advantage of a late death.  
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No, it’s not.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2007/382620/180 "2006-12-18T13:18:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Sean Factotum]  
I think it would be bad form to resubmit your list mere seconds before New Year’s just to take advantage of a late death.  
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that doesn’t really answer the question.  
I’m going to go ahead and **guess** that no matter what time it is where a fellow dies, if it’s before midnight 12/31 CDT, it’s considered a 2006 death.

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