# The Celebrity Death Pool 2008

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2007, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439 "2007-12-01T11:46:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1 "2007-12-01T11:46:29Z")

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Here we go for 2008. The rules are exactly as before, but please note my request at the bottom of the post that you submit your list in a specific format.

**The Rules:**

1. You pick 13 celebrities (that’s thirteen, not ten) whom you predict will die within the calendar year 2008. If any of your celebrities dies, you score 100 points minus their age at death. Whoever has the most points at the end of the year wins the undying _snort_ admiration of the SDMB.

2. All picks must be time- and date-stamped by midnight Chicago time, Dec. 31st, 2007. (That’s U.S. Central time, which is six hours behind Greenwich.)

3. Valid picks are not:

a. already dead  
b. a fictional character  
c. non-human  
d. under age 18 at death  
e. a registered member of the SDMB, 'cause that would be weird  
f. political prisoners, 'cause we’re macabre but not THAT macabre. Please see Rule 7 regarding the likes of Saddam Hussein.

1. You can pick people who are 100 or more years old but you won’t score points for them. See the “Quantity Not Quality” award, below.

2. If we are uncertain about the celebrity’s age at death, we will go by the higher age (lower score).

3. Your picks must specify a name: listing “anybody from [the cast of your most hated TV show or boy band]” as a pick will be ignored.

4. Persons under sentence of death will be valid for scoring points only if they die by means other than official execution.

5. Any poster who kills or otherwise contributes to the death of any celebrity mentioned in this thread is disqualified. It’s just a game, people. The only exceptions to this rule would be deaths caused by those posters serving as members of the police or armed forces of any country, in the line of duty.

6. Editing your choices: be careful! You can make changes to your list before the end of the year, but it has to be clear which names are your final choices. You may submit one or more “alternates” with your list in the event that one of your picks dies during December 2007, or submit an alternate after the death of the original pick, as long as this is posted by Dec 31, 2007. If you do not submit a name, I will submit the rest. You can have no more than 13 picks. If you pick more than 13, or if any of your picks is otherwise invalid, I may ask for clarification. Otherwise, I will submit the first 13 names on your list. Do me a favor: check twice, post once.

We have no rule about submissions having to be unique, despite claims of “copying” anyone else’s list. Sharing news of celebrities in ill health and whatnot is up to individual posters.

We have no rule about valid SDMB memberships (disqualifying members who have been banned). If you submit a list and then change your username at some point, please post this news on the thread so I know who you are.

We have no rule about what constitutes “celebrity,” because it makes our heads hurt to think about this.

Spelling counts! Please try to spell celebrities’ names correctly.

Some celebrities have common, identical or similar names. It is helpful to be specific.

Additional awards:

The “Quantity Not Quality” Award: to be awarded to the poster or posters who pick the greatest number of celebrities who died, regardless of their actual point value.

The “Inside Track With the Grim Reaper” Award: to be awarded to the poster or posters who pick a celebrity that no one else picked.

The “Opening Kickoff” Award: to be awarded to the poster or posters who pick the first listed celebrity to die in 2008.

The “Final Hours” Award: to be awarded to the poster or posters who pick the last listed celebrity to die in 2008.

**List Format**

I have a spreadsheet that will allow me to post updated standings quickly and produce various other statistics. The pain is “loading” the data into the sheet. I can do each list in a single cut and paste if you use the following format and guidelines: present a plain, unnumbered list that contains just the celebrities’ most commonly used names (e.g. use “Al Gore”, not “Albert Gore”), correctly spelled. So, to use my 2007 list as an example, it would be:

Garry Betty  
Ronnie Biggs  
Fidel Castro  
Farrah Fawcett  
Dan Fogelberg  
Jane McGrath  
Magnus Magnusson  
Tammy Faye Messner  
Benny Parsons  
Suzanne Pleshette  
Ariel Sharon  
Yuri Shtern  
Chuck Strahl  
However, I know that many of you like to include commentary within your lists, such as:

George “the younger” Bush  
Yogi Berra, baseballer/malaproper, age 81 (82 in May 2007)- because it ain’t over till it’s over.

That is fine - it adds to the entertainment. But if you do that, please also include the list again in plain format for me to copy & paste.  
So - have at it. And many thanks to **a35362** for all her hard work in running the game in recent years.

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**Author:** ![Secret\_Volcano\_Lair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Secret\_Volcano\_Lair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Secret_Volcano_Lair)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/2 "2007-12-01T12:06:55Z")

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Fidel Castro  
Mikhail Kalashnikov  
Pete Doherty  
Amy Winehouse  
Betty Ford  
Farrah Fawcett  
Oral Roberts  
Billy Graham  
Bob Barker  
Lawrence Pfohl, AKA Lex Luger (pro wrestler)  
Stephen Glover, AKA Steve-O (Jackass)  
Ariel Sharon  
Charles Manson

I’m trying to start a game like this on another forum, but I’m getting tons of flack for it ☹

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/3 "2007-12-01T13:40:18Z")

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Since the Bush Deathpool seems to make them all immortal, I’m switching sides:

1. Eunice Kennedy Shriver
2. Robert Shriver
3. Maria Shriver Schwarzeneger
4. Timothy Shriver
5. Mark Shriver
6. Anthony Shriver
7. Jean Kennedy Smith
8. William Kennedy Smith
9. Edward Kennedy
10. Edward Kennedy Jr.
11. Kara Kennedy Allen
12. Patrick Kennedy
13. Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/4 "2007-12-01T14:58:29Z")

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Dear Annie Xmas,

Every time I see one of the Bush Family on the TV, I think of you.

Now, when I see a Kennedy, I will laugh even harder.  
I hope your 2007 list wins in 2008 and I hope your 2008 list wins too.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/5 "2007-12-01T15:35:43Z")

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Okay, here’s my 2007 list again, unless I change my mind-

1. Shane MacGowan
2. James Garner
3. Olympia Dukakis
4. Peter O’Toole
5. Ariel Sharon
6. Clint Eastwood
7. Sparky Anderson
8. Ernie Banks
9. Kirk Douglas
10. Margaret Thatcher
11. Ruth Bader Ginsberg
12. Eunice Shriver
13. Annette Funicello

I think I’ll use Stephen Hawking as my first alternate…

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/6 "2007-12-01T16:23:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Shirley Ujest]  
Dear Annie Xmas,

Every time I see one of the Bush Family on the TV, I think of you.

Now, when I see a Kennedy, I will laugh even harder.  
I hope your 2007 list wins in 2008 and I hope your 2008 list wins too.  
[/QUOTE]

Thank You **Shirley**. Ted, Jean & Eunice are givens, and I don’t really wish any of the rest any harm (well, maybe Willie the rapist). But if keeping certain people off the list makes them mortal, more power to the Deathpool.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/7 "2007-12-01T18:17:00Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> Okay, here’s my 2007 list again, unless I change my mind-
> 
> 1. Shane MacGowan
> 2. James Garner
> 3. Olympia Dukakis  
> etc.

Please don’t number them - I have to edit each line to remove the number when I put them into my spreadsheet. See the OP for the format that will make my life easiest.

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**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/8 "2007-12-01T18:51:50Z")

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1. Michael Jackson (Not sure anymore )
2. Clint Eastwood (Actor)
3. Don Williams (Country singer)
4. Margaret Thatcher (Former UK PM)
5. Larry King (TV Show host)
6. Bob Barker (Game Show host)
7. Robin Williams (Comedian/Actor)
8. Dick Francis (Writer)
9. Queen Elizabeth II (Royalty)
10. Newt Gingrich (Politician)
11. Billy Graham (Actor/Evangelist)
12. George Jones (Country Singer)
13. Dan Rather (News Anchor)

Alternate: Fran Tarkenton

Yes, this is the same list I have posted since 2004. The only change was last year my alternate was Gerald Ford, the only one on my list to die. And he didn’t even make it out of 2006. ☹ I am getting tempted to put some people on this years list just to keep them alive.

Michael Jackson  
Clint Eastwood  
Don Williams  
Margaret Thatcher  
Larry King  
Bob Barker  
Robin Williams  
Dick Francis  
Queen Elizabeth II  
Newt Gingrich  
Billy Graham  
George Jones  
Dan Rather

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/9 "2007-12-01T20:31:31Z")

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I’m in, but I am going to think about my '08 list a little more. Besides, I have hopes for a few mid-December “departings” from my 2007 list.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/10 "2007-12-01T21:23:21Z")

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Same here–I’ll be participating for the first time ever in 2008, but I still have to flesh out my list, and Googling terminal illness patients is getting a little depressing. I’ll have to pick it up again later.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/11 "2007-12-01T21:27:38Z")

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[QUOTE=amarone]  
Please don’t number them - I have to edit each line to remove the number when I put them into my spreadsheet. See the OP for the format that will make my life easiest.  
[/QUOTE]

I’m so sorry! I just cut & pasted from last year’s document without fully reading the OP!

Let me post it again, without numbers- you can ignore my first post.

Shane MacGowan  
James Garner  
Olympia Dukakis  
Peter O’Toole  
Ariel Sharon  
Clint Eastwood  
Sparky Anderson  
Ernie Banks  
Kirk Douglas  
Margaret Thatcher  
Ruth Bader Ginsberg  
Eunice Shriver  
Annette Funicello

Alternate- Stephen Hawking

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/12 "2007-12-01T21:38:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas]  
Since the Bush Deathpool seems to make them all immortal, I’m switching sides:

Eunice Kennedy Shriver  
Robert Shriver  
Maria Shriver Schwarzeneger  
Timothy Shriver  
Mark Shriver  
Anthony Shriver  
Jean Kennedy Smith  
William Kennedy Smith  
Edward Kennedy  
Edward Kennedy Jr.  
Kara Kennedy Allen  
Patrick Kennedy  
Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg  
[/QUOTE]

_sans_ numbers

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2007, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/13 "2007-12-02T15:17:17Z")

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1. Mary Tyler Moore (diabetic actress)
2. Dan Fogleberg (80s pop singer)
3. Owen Wilson (suicidally-inclined actor)
4. Kirk Douglas (old actor)
5. Prince Phillip of Edinburgh
6. Ryan O’Neal
7. Jerry Lewis
8. Bob Barker (I figure he’s got nuttin’ to live for now)
9. Eunice Kennedy Shriver (sounds like she’s pretty much a given)
10. Joan Kennedy
11. Jim McKay (famed sportscaster)
12. Muhammed Ali
13. Art Donovan (NFL Hall of Famer, 60s Baltimore Colt)  
Alternates, in case anyone kicks off before January 1st:
14. Teri Garr
15. Lindsey Lohan
16. Queen Elizabeth

Plain version:  
Mary Tyler Moore  
Dan Fogleberg  
Owen Wilson  
Kirk Douglas  
Prince Phillip of Edinburgh  
Ryan O’Neal  
Jerry Lewis  
Bob Barker  
Eunice Kennedy Shriver  
Joan Kennedy  
Jim McKay  
Muhammed Ali  
Art Donovan

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/14 "2007-12-02T22:29:03Z")

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Britney Spears  
Fidel Castro  
Ariel Sharon  
John Forsythe  
Olivia de Havilland  
Dick Cheney  
Natasha Lyonne  
Katie Price  
Michael J. Fox  
Marianne Faithfull  
Russell Watson  
Sylvester Stalone  
Larry King  
Alternates, in case one (or three) of my picks can’t ring in the New Year:

Robert Mondavi  
Studs Terkel  
Betty Ford

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**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/15 "2007-12-03T00:18:55Z")

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Mikhail Gorbachev  
Hank Aaron  
Willie Mays  
Thomas Pynchon  
Raul Castro  
Ariel Sharon  
John Updike  
Peter Orlovsky  
Sophia Loren  
Woody Allen  
E.O. Wilson  
Sean Connery  
Elizabeth Taylor

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/16 "2007-12-03T01:37:47Z")

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Ya know the holiday season or whatever the heck ya wanna call it does not officially begin until it’s time for next year’s Celebrity Death Pool choices to start showin’ up. 😃

Mine will be up in a few days as soon as I’m back home from this seemingly endless bidness trip I am in the midst of.

ETA: Thanks to **amarone** for steppin’ in and taking over.

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**Author:** ![SSG\_Schwartz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SSG\_Schwartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SSG_Schwartz)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/17 "2007-12-03T03:40:51Z")

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After scoring only 11 points over the last 12 months, I will try to do better this year.

Fidel Castro --He’s got to go sometime  
Bill Cosby --entertained millions, dies and provides more entertainment  
Jerry Jeff Walker --Old Outlaw singers never die, they just ride off into the sunset  
Merle Haggard – See above  
Jimmy Carter – Pres who is due  
Willie Nelson --Grim Reaper, don’t touch my Willie unless I can get points  
Pat Robertson --just a wish on my part  
“Magic” Earvin Johnson --You know why  
Jerry Lee Lewis --If you crossed James Dean with a cat you would have Jerry Lee  
Joe Paterno --Papa won’t retire, or so he thinks  
Moe Bandy --Long shot maybe  
Dick Cheney --Bad aim?  
Monty Hall --He’s really still alive???

My alternates are now

William Bruce “Axl” Rose  
Andy Roony

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/18 "2007-12-03T09:03:43Z")

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People, don’t forget amarone asked for a “plain” list!

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/19 "2007-12-03T18:26:02Z")

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OK, here we go:

Fidel Castro  
Billy Graham  
Ariel Sharon  
Ruth Bader Ginsberg  
Doku Umarov  
Ali Khamenei  
Ned Vukovic  
John Mahoney  
[US Representative Julia Carson](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Carson)  
[Paul Kraus](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Kraus)  
Farrah Fawcett  
Orlando Thomas (Minnesota Vikings safety)  
Arnold Palmer

Plain format:

Fidel Castro  
Billy Graham  
Ariel Sharon  
Ruth Bader Ginsberg  
Doku Umarov  
Ali Khamenei  
Ned Vukovic  
John Mahoney  
Julia Carson  
Paul Kraus  
Farrah Fawcett  
Orlando Thomas  
Arnold Palmer

Here’s hoping for a cherry-popper!

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**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/20 "2007-12-04T00:05:39Z")

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Ville Vallo  
Ron Santo  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Tommy Lasorda  
Michael J. Fox  
Lindsay Lohan  
Ozzy Osbourne  
Lyndon Larouche  
Muhammad Ali  
Kirk Douglas  
Brittany Spears  
BB King  
Tony Curtis

ETA: Alternates:

George Clinton  
Clint Eastwood  
Jimmy Carter  
Sean Connery

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