# The Celebrity Death Pool 2008

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2007, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439 "2007-12-01T11:46:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1162 "2008-10-29T12:37:57Z")

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[Buck Adams](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_Adams), Adult Film star and brother of Adult Film star [Amber Lynn](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Lynn), has died at age 52, of complications due to heart failure.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1163 "2008-10-29T13:49:12Z")

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> [@An\_Arky](#):
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> [Buck Adams](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_Adams), Adult Film star and brother of Adult Film star [Amber Lynn](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Lynn), has died at age 52, of complications due to heart failure.

They ever do a scene together?

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1164 "2008-10-29T13:57:46Z")

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Heh heh. Makes you wonder, though, what kind of something going on in their early lives there was that they both became adult performers.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1165 "2008-10-30T12:44:04Z")

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[Estelle Reiner](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/3281464/Estelle-Reiner.html), wife of Carl & mother of Rob, dead at 94.

Her most memorable line? “I’ll have what she’s having.”

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1166 "2008-10-30T14:26:15Z")

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[Gil Rossellini, 52](http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117993389.html?categoryid=13&cs=1), brother of Isabella.

Gil contracted a staph infection in 2004 that settled in his extremites. As a result, he lost the use of his legs, and some of the use of his right hand. Sometimes the results for the survivors can be [more catastrophic](http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/10/10/o.warrior.mother.jenny.mccarthy/index.html).

His doc “Kill Gil, Volume 1” documents his struggle with the infection, the complications, the aftermath, etc.

His doc “Kill Gil Volume 2” (two years later) deals with more of the complications, including a gruesome pressure sore that he proudly displays for the camera–photographed by none other than sis Isabella.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1167 "2008-10-30T16:36:30Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> [Estelle Reiner](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/3281464/Estelle-Reiner.html), wife of Carl & mother of Rob, dead at 94.
> 
> Her most memorable line? “I’ll have what she’s having.”

She was also a jazz singer, painter and anti-war activist and she married a man 8 years her junior.

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**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1168 "2008-10-30T20:00:33Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> …and she married a man 8 years her junior.

So you’re saying that Carl Reiner would be a respectable 14 points if he kicks it!

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1169 "2008-10-31T02:43:32Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> She was also a jazz singer, painter and anti-war activist and she married a man 8 years her junior.

> [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](#):
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> So you’re saying that Carl Reiner would be a respectable 14 points if he kicks it!

I believe **Wile E** is referring to Estelle’s second husband - but I could be wrong

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1170 "2008-10-31T02:52:25Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> I believe **Wile E** is referring to Estelle’s second husband - but I could be wrong

I was referring to Carl Reiner because I didn’t think he was in his 90’s yet so I looked up his age and saw he was born 8 years later. I have no idea which number husband he was. I just think it’s neat that she married a younger man, both my grandmother’s did, too.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1171 "2008-10-31T21:39:11Z")

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All around guy maybe best known as a Chicago author [Studs Terkel](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-studs-terkel-dead,0,2321576.story)dead at 96.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1172 "2008-10-31T22:02:12Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> All around guy maybe best known as a Chicago author [Studs Terkel](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-studs-terkel-dead,0,2321576.story)dead at 96.

I’m really saddened. He edited perhaps the best collection of WWII stories I ever read, _The Good War_. He was also one of the best interviewers I’ve ever heard – somehow he could get things out of people that you would never expect.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1173 "2008-10-31T22:05:45Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> All around guy maybe best known as a Chicago author [Studs Terkel](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-studs-terkel-dead,0,2321576.story)dead at 96.

Bummer - nobody had died in October so if Studs could have lasted one more day it would have saved me doing an update this month.

A unique pick for **BJMoose** who scores off his second nonagenarian.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1174 "2008-10-31T22:14:00Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> I was referring to Carl Reiner … I have no idea which number husband he was.

Apparently, he was her [only spouse](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0717995/bio), and she his lone wife.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1175 "2008-11-01T00:33:40Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I’m really saddened. He edited perhaps the best collection of WWII stories I ever read, _The Good War_. He was also one of the best interviewers I’ve ever heard – somehow he could get things out of people that you would never expect.

Try “Working”. He was special old rascal.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1176 "2008-11-01T00:46:09Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Try “Working”. He was special old rascal.

Oh yes, I have a copy of it too. It’s very good, but it doesn’t stand out in my my like _The Good War_. I read it in college, and it introduced me to the term PAF, “Premature Anti-Fascist”. The concept just blew me away – it was a term, IIRC, the FBI coined to describe Americans who opposed Franco and Mussolini and Hitler before the US government took any official stance against them. Many old lefties found that they had been labeled as such in their FBI files.

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1177 "2008-11-01T02:45:22Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> Bummer - nobody had died in October so if Studs could have lasted one more day it would have saved me doing an update this month.
> 
> A unique pick for **BJMoose** who scores off his second nonagenarian.

Oh, yeah, like you’re gonna bust a gut moving me from 78th to 75th. 😉

Those four points got me so excited I looked for this thread in MPSIMS. :rolleyes:

Believe it or not, Terkel isn’t the oldest guy on my list. Anyone hear how ol’ Mitch Miller is doing lately?

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1178 "2008-11-01T05:50:30Z")

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_ahem_

> [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#):
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> [House Peters, 92, the original Mr. Clean](http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gjJByrFKgrYqZ-hscJEBr359frjgD93I5EO80)

> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> [Rob Guest](http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/1318360/2170186) Australian mega suprstar musicals performaner, dead at 58:(

> [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#):
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> [Douglass Coates Harvey, 91](http://www.legacy.com/DemocratAndChronicle/Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonID=118002427), the man credited with creating the Kodak Instamatic Camera.

> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Eddie Brinkman…Former MLB shortstop for Senators and Tigers and other teams..dead at 66

> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Nick Reynolds, founding member and lead singer of the Kingston Trio, [dead at 75.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/02/AR2008100203728.html)

> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#):
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> I can’t remember if he was on my list this year or not, but [Vice Vukov](http://www.tributes.com/obituary/show/Vice-Vukov/84192641) has died.

> [@Governor\_Quinn](#):
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> A trifecta, for those of you who like politicians:  
> [Lord Thomson of Monifieth, Wilson Government minister turned LibDem spokesman, at 87](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7652321.stm)  
> [Jean Foyer, French Cabinet minister of the 1960s and 1970s, also at 87](http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2008/10/03/01011-20081003FILWWW00406-mort-de-jean-foyer-ministre-de-de-gaulle.php)  
> [Saul Laskin, the first Mayor of Thunder Bay, at 90](http://lakesuperiornews.info/News/SaulLaskin90Dies/tabid/748/Default.aspx)

> [@Governor\_Quinn](#):
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> [Bob Friend, longtime presenter for Sky News, has died at 70](http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Bob-Friend-Former-Sky-News-Presenter-Dies-Aged-70-After-Suffering-From-Cancer/Article/200810115115343?lpos=UK_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15115343_Bob_Friend_Former_Sky_News_Presenter_Dies_Aged_70_After_Suffering_From_Cancer)

> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> [Eileen Herlie](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eileen_Herlie), best known for portraying Myrtle Fargate on _All My Children_, dead at 90.

> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> Probably of no interest to anyone but myself: [Youngest son of Preston Tucker dies.](http://www.mlive.com/news/annarbornews/index.ssf?/base/news-29/1223476846125870.xml&coll=2)

> [@Governor\_Quinn](#):
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> [Jorg Haider, long controversial figure in the politics of Austria, has died in a car accident at 58](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7664846.stm)

> [@El\_Cheapo](#):
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> Game show host [Jack Narz](http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/10/veteran_game_show_host_narz_de.php) has died at age 85.

> [@Governor\_Quinn](#):
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> Two former members of the US House, [Matthew Rinaldo](http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newjersey/ny-bc-nj--obit-rinaldo1013oct13,0,7270034.story) and [Paul Rogers](http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hV2Y6Zt1oDbZbNE1k1Dro441GM4AD93PUP280), die on the 13th, at the ages of 77 and 87.[For those who prefer sport, Tom Tresh, Yankees shortstop of the 1960s, has died at 71](http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2008/10/15/sports/doc48f6488003692821930060.txt)

> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> [Edie Adams](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/movies/16adams.html?_r=1&oref=slogin), singer and actress, dead at age 81.

> [@Monstera\_deliciosa](#):
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> Lead singer of The Four Tops, [Levi Stubbs](http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/17/obit.stubbs.ap/index.html) is dead at 72.

> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> [I hope his corpse is well dressed.](http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-blackwell20-2008oct20,0,6825099.story)

> [@SpazCat](#):
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> It is with a heavy heart that I announce the death of the great [Rudy Ray Moore](http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_oh_obit_rudy_ray_moore.html)

> [@Sublight](#):
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> Less politics, more death.  
> From my CelebrityDeathBeeper update:  
> [Frank “Lefty” Rosenthal, gambling ‘expert’](http://news.google.com/?q=FRANK+LEFTY+ROSENTHAL)  
> [Alexi Cherepanov, very young hockey player](http://news.google.com/?q=ALEXEI+CHEREPANOV)  
> [Neal Hefti, TV theme song writer](http://news.google.com/?q=NEAL+HEFTI)  
> [Frankie Venom, lead singer of Teenage Head](http://news.google.com/?q=FRANKIE+VENOM)  
> [Edie Adams](http://news.google.com/?q=EDIE+ADAMS)  
> [Jack Narz, game show host](http://news.google.com/?q=JACK+NARZ)  
> [Dee Dee Warwick, soul singer](http://news.google.com/?q=DEE+DEE+WARWICK)

> [@An\_Arky](#):
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> [Buck Adams](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_Adams), Adult Film star and brother of Adult Film star [Amber Lynn](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Lynn), has died at age 52, of complications due to heart failure.

> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> [Estelle Reiner](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/3281464/Estelle-Reiner.html), wife of Carl & mother of Rob, dead at 94.

> [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#):
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> [Gil Rossellini, 52](http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117993389.html?categoryid=13&cs=1), brother of Isabella.

> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> All around guy maybe best known as a Chicago author [Studs Terkel](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-studs-terkel-dead,0,2321576.story)dead at 96.

> [@amarone](#):
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> Bummer - nobody had died in October so if Studs could have lasted one more day it would have saved me doing an update this month.
> 
> A unique pick for **BJMoose** who scores off his second nonagenarian.

Is that a whoosh, or do you only those who’ve been picked by us?

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1179 "2008-11-01T14:20:39Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> _ahem_
> 
> Is that a whoosh, or do you only those who’ve been picked by us?

The latter. I suspect there were also several other people worldwide who died in October and did not even get a mention in this thread.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2008, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1180 "2008-11-02T02:13:19Z")

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> [@BJMoose](#):
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> Oh, yeah, like you’re gonna bust a gut moving me from 78th to 75th. 😉
> 
> Those four points got me so excited I looked for this thread in MPSIMS. :rolleyes:
> 
> Believe it or not, Terkel isn’t the oldest guy on my list. Anyone hear how ol’ Mitch Miller is doing lately?

For the end of October standings, see post 1097 but move **BJMoose** up to _ **equal** _ 75th.

I am not sure you have got the hang of how the points work, BJ. If you check out the leading two dopers, they are averaging 43 and 44 points per corpse. Your maximum score is 84, which will not crack the top ten. Still, at least nobody is too sad when one of yours dies - they have all had a good innings.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/1181 "2008-11-02T02:20:36Z")

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It’s just not fair that the leaders have hit teams out there working for them. Not employed by them of course, that would be cheating. But still, killers who decide, “Well, if we’ve got to kill SOMEBODY, let’s take a few off THIS list.”

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