# The Celebrity Death Pool 2008

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2007, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439 "2007-12-01T11:46:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/101 "2007-12-19T11:39:26Z")

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Okay, this is the first time I’ve entered. Be gentle.

Christopher Lee  
Elizabeth Taylor  
George H W Bush  
Britney Spears  
Pele  
Ronnie Corbett  
Robbie Williams  
Gary Glitter  
Ringo Starr  
Terry Pratchett  
Bobby McFerrin  
Nicholas Lyndhurst  
Lachlan Murdoch  
Alternatives:  
Thelma Barlow  
Richard Clayderman

Some of these names you may not recognise, as many are UK celebrities. And one of them is Australian. I’ve listed them in my personal expectation of the order of likelihood that they’ll kick the bucket. I think my chances of getting any points at all are very remote.

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**Author:** ![Desert\_Nomad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desert_nomad/32/177_2.png) [@Desert\_Nomad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desert_Nomad)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/102 "2007-12-19T13:08:27Z")

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Fidel Castro  
Mikheil Saakashvili  
Margaret Thatcher  
Queen Elizabeth II  
Ross Perot  
Alan Greenspan  
Russell Johnson  
Wilford Brimley  
James Earl Jones  
Dick Van Patten  
Bob Barker  
Dick Clark  
Walter Cronkite

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/103 "2007-12-19T17:40:58Z")

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[QUOTE=GuanoLad]

Some of these names you may not recognise, as many are UK celebrities. And one of them is Australian. I’ve listed them in my personal expectation of the order of likelihood that they’ll kick the bucket. I think my chances of getting any points at all are very remote.  
[/QUOTE]

Yeah, who’s Ringo Starr? 😕

😉

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/104 "2007-12-19T19:16:13Z")

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Still hoping to score a few more points this year, but going ahead and posting my 2008 list (subject to revision):

THE HOLDOVERS

[Oral Roberts](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_Roberts) – This is my fifth year of **Celebrity Death Pool** participation, and I’ve pickied Oral each time. Since I have a personal rule to only go for folks who are worth at least ten points each, this is his last appearance on my list regardless of whether God finally calls him home by the end of 2008.

[Bob Feller](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Feller) – Made the Baseball Hall of Fame on the first ballot, but now faces his final round of eligibility as far as the **Sternvogel** standard is concerned.

[Art Donovan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Donovan) – Another of my charter selections. I can’t believe the clock hasn’t run out on him yet.

[Jack Kevorkian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian) – Apparently “Dr. Death” believes in fighting for his own life, but he’s got to lose the battle eventually.

[Louis Farrakhan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan) – Will this ex-calypso performer finally belt out his swan song?

[Pete Seeger](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Seeger) – Since he sang _Turn, Turn, Turn_, he knows that there’s “a time to die” and (for his fans) “a time to mourn”.

[Norodom Sihanouk](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norodom_Sihanouk) – One of those guys who’s apparently able to carry out his death throes for years, but I just know that the year I drop him will be the year he ascends to a celestial throne.

[Abdelaziz Bouteflika](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelaziz_Bouteflika) – Perhaps he’s licked stomach cancer (if he indeed ever had the disease), but I figure Algeria needs some representation in this thread.

[Fidel Castro](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro) – _El Jefe_ may indeed already be dead, but I’m figuring that George W. Bush will be the U.S. president who finally “outlasts” the Cuban leader (albeit by as little as a month).

AND NOW, THE NEWCOMERS

After the deaths of 2007 selections Robert Anton Wilson, Art Buchwald, Jerry Falwell, and Joey Bishop, here are my draft picks:

[Mort Walker](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mort_Walker) – The creator of _Beetle Bailey_ will join such recently-deceased cartooning colleagues as Brant Parker and Johnny Hart.

[Ralph Kiner](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Kiner) – Feller’s teammate for one year will join (or precede) “Rapid Robert” in the “Field of Dreams”.

[Kay Yow](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Yow) – Veteran coach of the North Carolina State Wolfpack Women has been battling breast cancer.

[Earl Scruggs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Scruggs) – Just a hunch that he’ll be pickin’ on Heaven’s front porch ere long.

PLAINTEXT ALPHABETIZED LIST

Abdelaziz Bouteflika  
Fidel Castro  
Art Donovan  
Louis Farrakhan  
Bob Feller  
Jack Kevorkian  
Ralph Kiner  
Oral Roberts  
Earl Scruggs  
Pete Seeger  
Norodom Sihanouk  
Mort Walker  
Kay Yow

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/105 "2007-12-19T19:32:33Z")

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[QUOTE=GuanoLad]

Lachlan Murdoch

[/QUOTE]

For a second there, I was worried.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/106 "2007-12-19T19:47:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Sean Factotum]  
We’ve been pretty much saying that if someone’s death is reported by two major news reporting agencies (CNN, New York Times, one of the reputable foreign press outlets, etc.) then they’re a celebrity. Should we finally make this the rule for defining celebrity?

And thanks, **a35362** for your stewardship of The Pool over the last few years. Every now and then I remember your post about when John Paul II dies, and giggle.  
[/QUOTE]

I requested we have the rule be one major news source to verify celebrity, but even that got shot down. Pretty much anything goes it seems, but I would think that you would have to somehow demonstrate that your guy died. Otherwise I could pick Erbwb “Spanky” Vliknloutisovawicz and just claim he died of spontaneous human combustion at the age of 18 and ask everyone to take my word for it.

On that subject, who is Ritter’s pick, Ben Aud? I just googled him and got zero.

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**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/107 "2007-12-20T06:27:15Z")

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Once again, immortality for everyone on my list! (And huge thanks to **a35362** for the past years of being Pool Keeper. Shoulda tossed some chlorine in there…)

Here’s the 2008 list that will go nowhere, once again, entertainment heavy:  
Paul Harvey  
Tina Louise  
Pete Seeger  
William Schallert  
Barbara Hale  
Mitch Miller  
Helen Gurley Brown  
Olivia Newton-John  
Farrah Fawcett  
Amy Winehouse  
Kylie Minogue  
Brian Bonsall  
Ashleigh Brilliant

Alternates:

Gordon B. Hinckley  
Eminem

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/108 "2007-12-20T06:58:11Z")

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Dick Cheney  
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  
Charlton Heston  
Britney Spears  
Sidney Lumet  
Fidel Castro  
Nasser El Sonbaty (bodybuilder)  
Chavo Guerrero, Jr (wrestler)  
Sidney Ray Eudy (Psycho Sid, Sid Vicious, Wrestler)  
Mel Brooks  
Nicole Richie  
Mariusz Pudzianowski (strongman)  
Alberto Contador (cyclist)

alt: Michael Jackson

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/109 "2007-12-20T12:48:34Z")

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Substitution, please.

Drop Hugo Chavez, add Geraldine Ferraro…

Geraldine Ferraro  
Pervez Musharraf  
Michael J. Fox  
Joni Mitchell  
Louis Farrakhan  
Tony Snow  
Suzanne Pleshette  
Farah Fawcett  
Amy Winehouse  
Muhammed Ali  
Elizabeth Edwards  
George Soros

Alternates:

Fred Phelps  
Kim Jong-Il  
Michael Moore

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**Author:** ![Avarie537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@Avarie537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avarie537)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/110 "2007-12-20T13:47:46Z")

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I missed last year, and am jumping in now for 2008!

Fidel Castro  
Bob Barker  
John Madden  
Eunice Kennedy Shriver  
Rush Limbaugh  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Dick Cheney  
Curtis Jackson (50 Cent)  
Elizabeth Edwards  
Billy Graham  
Owen Wilson  
Muhammad Ali  
Stephen Hawking

Alternates:

Abigail Van Buren  
Paul Harvey

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**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/111 "2007-12-20T14:05:31Z")

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[QUOTE=amarone]  
Any chance you could do a plain format list?  
[/QUOTE]  
Sorry.

Here ye be:

Dane Cook  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Norman Borlaug  
Mickey Foote  
Nancy Regan  
John Mayall  
Margaretta Large Fitler Murphy “Happy” Rockefeller  
Don Shula  
Darryl Strawberry  
Hubert “Geese” Ausbie  
Jovanka Budisavljević Broz  
Lew Lewis  
Caril Ann Fugate

Alternates:

Todd Rundgren  
Martin Gardner

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/112 "2007-12-20T21:59:17Z")

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[QUOTE=VunderBob]  
Substitution, please.

Drop Hugo Chavez, add Geraldine Ferraro…

Geraldine Ferraro  
Pervez Musharraf  
Michael J. Fox  
Joni Mitchell  
Louis Farrakhan  
Tony Snow  
Suzanne Pleshette  
Farah Fawcett  
Amy Winehouse  
Muhammed Ali  
Elizabeth Edwards  
George Soros

Alternates:

Fred Phelps  
Kim Jong-Il  
Michael Moore  
[/QUOTE]

You only have twelve names on the main list – did you inadvertently drop someone, or do you want to move Phelps up?

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/113 "2007-12-20T23:12:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Sternvogel]  
You only have twelve names on the main list – did you inadvertently drop someone, or do you want to move Phelps up?  
[/QUOTE]  
You [**VunderBob**] had Roger Ebert on your original list. I will keep Ebert and replace Chavez with Ferraro.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/114 "2007-12-20T23:15:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Spiff]  
Sorry.

Here ye be:

Dane Cook  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Norman Borlaug  
Mickey Foote  
Nancy Regan  
John Mayall  
Margaretta Large Fitler Murphy “Happy” Rockefeller  
Don Shula  
Darryl Strawberry  
Hubert “Geese” Ausbie  
Jovanka Budisavljević Broz  
Lew Lewis  
Caril Ann Fugate

Alternates:

Todd Rundgren  
Martin Gardner  
[/QUOTE]  
Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/115 "2007-12-20T23:46:31Z")

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> [@Spiff](#):
>
> Dane Cook

Wishful thinking, eh?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/116 "2007-12-21T04:11:37Z")

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I had my best year in 2007 and I’m hoping to do better in 2008…ummm…I mean I’m wishing everyone on my list a long and healthy life…yeah, that’s it

Lauren Bacall  
Fidel Castro  
Walter Cronkite  
Gulistan Dugan  
Farrah Fawcett  
Billy Graham  
Larry Hagman  
Henry Kissinger  
Jerry Lewis  
Robert Mugabe  
Ariel Sharon  
Than Shwe  
Elizabeth Taylor

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/117 "2007-12-21T04:27:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Spiff]  
Nancy Regan

[/QUOTE]  
The former FIrst Lady (Nancy Reagan) or [Nancy Regan](http://www.asb.nb.ca/NancyRegan.htm)? I am going with Reagan unless I hear otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/118 "2007-12-21T06:20:17Z")

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Well, this will be my first foray into the realm of celebrity death prognostication. I haven’t read all the lists, just glanced over most of them, so I hope I don’t copy anybody’s too closely. And I can’t believe all the Amy Winehouse picks. When I saw the first one, I thought it was a joke, but I noticed her name popped up a few more times. Is she really that self-destructive? Well, here goes…

Bea Arthur  
Rue McClanahan  
Betty White  
Estelle Ghetty  
Paul McCartney  
Ringo Starr  
Yoko Ono  
Tony Danza  
John Glenn  
Stephen Hawking  
Mindy McCready  
Judd Hirsch  
Judd Nelson

Hey, might as well have some fun with it right? 🙂

Oh, and for an alternate, how about…Nichele Nichols, for a little racial diversity. Plus she’s old.

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**Author:** ![FarmerChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FarmerChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerChick)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/119 "2007-12-21T10:30:57Z")

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Here’s my list

Farrah Fawcett  
Liza Minelli  
Eddie Van Halen  
Fidel Castro  
Amy Winehouse  
Tom Sizemore  
Dick Cheney  
Elizabeth Edwards  
John Goodman  
Gary Busey  
Danny Bonaduce  
John Glenn  
Mary Tyler Moore

alternates

Gene Wilder  
Dick Van Dyke

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**Author:** ![Walkabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/46a35a/32.png) [@Walkabout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walkabout)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/120 "2007-12-21T14:47:27Z")

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My list for 2008:

Muhammad Ali  
Fidel Castro  
Farrah Fawcett  
John Forsythe  
Adam Pacman Jones  
Annette Funicello  
Suzanne Pleshette  
Ariel Sharon  
Leroy Sievers  
Tony Snow  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Margaret Thatcher  
Amy Winehouse

Alternates:  
Dick Cheney  
Bobby Brown

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