# The Celebrity Death Pool 2008

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2007, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439 "2007-12-01T11:46:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2007, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/141 "2007-12-25T14:04:57Z")

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[QUOTE=amarone]  
but to date we have had 78 lists. At this time last year we had 99 lists.  
[/QUOTE]

I think people are being coy. Last year one poster waited and copied almost the entire list of one of the most “lucky” posters. I’m still a virgin this year, but I plan on waiting until 12/31.

It is my birthday. Maybe this time I’ll have better results.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2007, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/142 "2007-12-25T14:33:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Tripler]  
Sorry about the confusion. Here’s my simple list!

[/QUOTE]  
Thanks.

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**Author:** ![drewbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drewbert/32/15890_2.png) [@drewbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewbert)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2007, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/143 "2007-12-25T16:29:16Z")

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_It’s that mooost wonderful tiiime of the yeeear…_

Fidel Castro  
Adam Pacman Jones  
Dick van Dyke  
Dick Clark  
Sid Caesar  
Daniel Schorr  
Walter Cronkite  
John Glenn  
Benazir Bhutto  
Pervez Musharraf  
Ed Koch  
Ariel Sharon  
Fred Phelps

alternates:  
Angela Lansbury  
Billy Graham

I’ve known for months that Pacman was going to be on my list this year. I was holding out for a unique pick but **WVmom** beat me to it 😃

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2007, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/144 "2007-12-25T16:48:23Z")

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[QUOTE=amarone]  
You [**VunderBob**] had Roger Ebert on your original list. I will keep Ebert and replace Chavez with Ferraro.  
[/QUOTE]

Ebert should be there; Ferraro replaces Chavez.

However, another substitution. As much as I’d like to see that old bastard kick the bucket, George Soros is replaced by Pete Domenici.

New list:

Roger Ebert  
Pervez Musharraf  
Geraldine Ferraro  
Michael J. Fox  
Joni Mitchell  
Louis Farrakhan  
Tony Snow  
Suzanne Pleshette  
Farah Fawcett  
Amy Winehouse  
Muhammed Ali  
Elizabeth Edwards  
Pete Domenici

Alternates:

Fred Phelps  
Kim Jong-Il  
Michael Moore

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**Author:** ![BACI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ce73a5/32.png) [@BACI](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BACI)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/145 "2007-12-26T05:11:47Z")

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Britney Spears  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Liza Minelli  
Mary-Kate Olsen  
Gough Whitlam  
Keith Richards  
James Garner  
Nick Nolte  
Margaret Thatcher  
Ronnie Corbett

Alternates:

Stephen Hawking  
Harry Belafonte  
Don Rickles

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/146 "2007-12-26T05:14:42Z")

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[QUOTE=BACI]  
Britney Spears  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Liza Minelli  
Mary-Kate Olsen  
Gough Whitlam  
Keith Richards  
James Garner  
Nick Nolte  
Margaret Thatcher  
Ronnie Corbett

Alternates:

Stephen Hawking  
Harry Belafonte  
Don Rickles  
[/QUOTE]  
You only have ten names. You need 13.

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**Author:** ![BACI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ce73a5/32.png) [@BACI](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BACI)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/147 "2007-12-26T09:58:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Fear Itself]  
You only have ten names. You need 13.  
[/QUOTE]

A thousand apologies - slight malinterpretation of the rules.

Our list, no alternates at this time:

Britney Spears  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Liza Minelli  
Mary-Kate Olsen  
Gough Whitlam  
Keith Richards  
James Garner  
Nick Nolte  
Margaret Thatcher  
Ronnie Corbett  
Stephen Hawking  
Harry Belafonte  
Don Rickles

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/148 "2007-12-26T12:05:58Z")

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Russell Watson  
Elizabeth Edwards  
Eleanor Mondale  
Shuntaro Torigoe  
Grant Achatz  
Tony Snow  
Philip Chevron  
Kris Carr  
Matt Cappotelli  
Lynn Kohlman  
Bobby Murcer  
Jack Kevorkian  
Donald Hall

[alternates]  
Ariel Sharon  
Fidel Castro  
Keith Richards

I swear on a stack of death certificates, and on my honor as a very morbid and disturbed individual, that I have not looked at any other player’s list, other than **amarone** ’s first post.

I managed to finish in the top 10 (at least of Christmas) for 2007 with three picks, let’s see if I do any better this year. None of my picks from last year are on this year’s list, save for Ariel and Fidel as alternates.

1. Russell Watson, opera singer
2. Elizabeth Edwards, wife of presidential candidate John Edwards
3. Eleanor Mondale, radio personality and TV host, daughter of former VP Walter Mondale
4. Shuntaro Torigoe, TV journalist
5. Grant Achatz, celebrity chef
6. Tony Snow, former White House spokesman
7. Philip Chevron, lead guitarist for The Pogues
8. Kris Carr, filmmaker, director of Crazy Sexy Cancer
9. Matt Cappotelli, professional wrestler
10. Lynn Kohlman, fashion model and photographer
11. Bobby Murcer, former NY Yankee
12. Jack Kevorkian, Dr. Death
13. Donald Hall, U.S. poet laureate (Not Donald J. Hall, Prez of Hallmark Cards)

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/149 "2007-12-26T12:25:30Z")

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I thought the word should be _alternatives_, not _alternates_. But I looked it up, and typically, it’s considered acceptable, though of course it’s Americans bastardising the English language once again.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/150 "2007-12-26T13:39:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Sublight]

I managed to finish in the top 10 (at least of Christmas) for 2007 with three picks  
[/QUOTE]  
I’m not the official scorer for 2007, but I have you at 12th.

Rachm Qoch 283  
Zog\_10 254  
amarone 231  
qwest 214  
CowPatty 175  
Andrew 21 167  
tarragon918 136  
clipper 127  
NurseCarmen 127  
Blalron 125  
Captain Lance Murdoch 121  
Sublight 118

And if someone can tell me how to stop VB from stripping out the blanks between the name and score, I would be grateful. I had all the scores aligned in a column.

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/151 "2007-12-26T15:36:11Z")

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Darn. I noticed right after I posted that **NurseCarmen** had flown past me on Evel Kneivel’s rocket casket, I guess two more must have as well.

Still, it’s better than I’ve ever done before, and the first time I scored with celebs who weren’t picked by 50 other people as well.

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/152 "2007-12-26T16:32:24Z")

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[QUOTE=amarone]

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And if someone can tell me how to stop VB from stripping out the blanks between the name and score, I would be grateful. I had all the scores aligned in a column.  
[/QUOTE]

I think the only thing you can do is wrap the whole thing with code tags (the # on the “tool bar”).

Test:

```auto

**BJMoose** 1201
**PosterWithIdioticallyLongUsername** 43
**Amarone** 7

```

Bit of a pain in the patoot. You can’t use tabs, but the defalt font is monospaced, so at least the right margin won’t be ragged.

Looks like I still have a unique pick or two, so I’ll hold off publishing my list. (Almost forgot one year and had to recreate a list from memory at the last minute!)

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/153 "2007-12-26T19:19:21Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> I thought the word should be alternatives, not alternates. But I looked it up, and typically, it’s considered acceptable, though of course it’s Americans bastardising the English language once again.

Typical prescriptivist bullshit. We could just as easily call “boot” a bastardization of “trunk”; there isn’t an ounce of logic to support either position, though.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/154 "2007-12-26T23:51:36Z")

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[QUOTE=amarone]  
You are correct. I don’t know if people are being coy with their lists this year and waiting until closer to the deadline, but to date we have had 78 lists. At this time last year we had 99 lists.  
[/QUOTE]

I am waiting - I’ll post mine over the weekend when I’ve had time to review my choices one last time

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**Author:** ![zoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7ea924/32.png) [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/155 "2007-12-27T02:46:56Z")

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A bunch of repeats from last year’s list, but I did have 3 stiffs that had to be replaced. I ditched a couple of others because the point value is too low and/or they’re on too many lists.

Lou Albano  
Ron Jeremy  
Gary Busey  
Suge Knight  
Bobby Robson  
Paul Prudhomme  
William Perry  
Omar Abdel-Rahman  
Mike Tyson  
James Watt  
J.R. Richard  
George Wendt  
James Cotton

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/156 "2007-12-27T04:47:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Hostile Dialect]  
Typical prescriptivist bullshit. We could just as easily call “boot” a bastardization of “trunk”; there isn’t an ounce of logic to support either position, though.  
[/QUOTE]

Well, there’s quite a lot of difference between having two separate words meaning the same thing (especially for something that is a relatively recent invention), and using an existing word incorrectly until it’s so common it becomes accepted. Of course, that’s the nature of language, but the Americans seem to stubbornly take pride in it.

Anyway, I am hijacking. My apologies.

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**Author:** ![Shamozzle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shamozzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shamozzle)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/157 "2007-12-27T06:44:06Z")

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Jimmy Carter  
Ariel Sharon  
Fidel Castro  
Kirk Douglas  
Liza Minnelli  
George H. W. Bush  
Betty Ford  
Lauren Bacall  
Angela Lansbury  
Paul Newman  
Sidney Poitier  
Nelson Mandela  
Peter Falk

Alternate:  
Robert Duvall

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/158 "2007-12-27T07:04:16Z")

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[QUOTE=amarone]  
Valid picks are not:  
a. already dead…  
Please see Rule 7 regarding the likes of Saddam Hussein  
[/QUOTE]

Okay…

Also, thank you for quoting me in your OP. Anyway, my list, in alphabetical order:

Ralph Baer  
Tony Bennett\*  
Yogi Berra  
Osama bin Laden  
Shirley Temple Black  
Jimmy Carter  
Sean Connery  
Roger Ebert  
June Foray  
Barry Manilow\*  
Bill Melendez  
Robert Mugabe  
Carroll Spinney

\*These picks sponsored in part by Dr. Stephen T. Colbert, D.F.A.

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/159 "2007-12-27T07:12:52Z")

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Arthur C. Clarke  
Stephen Hawking  
Muhammad Ali  
Queen Elizabeth  
Fidel Castro  
Pat Robertson  
Michael J. Fox  
Jerry Lewis  
Jack Kevorkian  
Andy Griffith  
Fred Phelps  
Christopher Lloyd  
Tom Lehrer

And on time, this year!

Alternate: Pope Benedict XVI

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/160 "2007-12-27T12:49:15Z")

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George HW Bush  
Dick Cheney  
Danica Patrick  
George Steinbrenner  
Roger Ebert  
Glen Campbell  
Englebert Humperdinck  
Walter Mondale  
John Paul Stevens  
Willie Mays  
Joe Namath  
Max Baer, Jr  
Pernell Roberts

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