# The Celebrity Death Pool 2008

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2007, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439 "2007-12-01T11:46:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/161 "2007-12-27T14:34:24Z")

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With the demise of Benazir Butto, I am using the alternates for **drewbert** (Angela Lansbury), **Ms Macphisto** (Jimmy Carter) and **42fish** (Kirk Douglas).

**Ritter** - you need to declare a replacement.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/162 "2007-12-27T18:16:17Z")

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I had Bhutto in 2007! Finally got some points for the year. Unique pick too.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/163 "2007-12-27T18:23:14Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Well, there’s quite a lot of difference between having two separate words meaning the same thing (especially for something that is a relatively recent invention), and using an existing word incorrectly until it’s so common it becomes accepted.

There’s nothing incorrect about it. It’s a meaning of the word. If older words are inherently better than newer words, that means you shun “yours” in favor of “thine”, right?

No?

Then kindly stuff it.

> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> the Americans seem to stubbornly take pride in it.

Ah, so you’re an expert on American attitudes toward language now. Except–funny thing–you have no idea what you’re talking about. Schoolmarm prescriptivism has just as much of a foothold here as in the UK–if not, possibly, more–and it doesn’t make a lick of sense here either. Of course, here, the prescriptivists replace “Americans” with “black people”, “young people”, “foreigners”, “Californians”, etc.

No, no, you’re right, totally different.

Do me a favor and go get yourself a clue before you come back.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/164 "2007-12-27T18:27:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Hostile Dialect]  
There’s nothing incorrect about it. It’s a meaning of the word. If older words are inherently better than newer words, that means you shun “yours” in favor of “thine”, right?

No?

Then kindly stuff it.

Ah, so you’re an expert on American attitudes toward language now. Except–funny thing–you have no idea what you’re talking about. Schoolmarm prescriptivism has just as much of a foothold here as in the UK–if not, possibly, more–and it doesn’t make a lick of sense here either. Of course, here, the prescriptivists replace “Americans” with “black people”, “young people”, “foreigners”, “Californians”, etc.

No, no, you’re right, totally different.

Do me a favor and go get yourself a clue before you come back.  
[/QUOTE]  
Maybe this is the one thread where I can be some sort of moderator. Can we please focus on the task of predicting deadness. If you two guys want to take it further, please go out to the car park/parking lot. Or the pit.

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/165 "2007-12-27T18:38:32Z")

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Fidel Castro  
Woody Allen  
James Garner  
Adam ‘Pacman’ Jones  
Courtney Love  
Chuck Yeager  
Charles Manson  
Billy Graham  
Steven Hawking  
Eunice Kennedy Shriver  
BB King  
Paul Newman  
Robert Mugabe

Alternates  
Mary Tyler Moore  
Queen Elizabeth II  
Vladimir Putin

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/166 "2007-12-27T18:48:51Z")

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**Hostile Dialect** and **GuanoLad** , please take the debate over language usage to Great Debates (if you wanna have a discussion) or the Pit (if you wanna just yell at each other).

Telling others to ‘stuff it,’ **Hostile Dialect** , is inappropriate in MPSIMS. And, **GuanoLad** , I appreciate you recognizing the hijack, but taking a dig at Americans–or any other group of people–on the way out isn’t the best way to end the hijack; it’s bound to stir up a response.

So, you know, hijack over. Back to the thread.

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/167 "2007-12-28T19:28:41Z")

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Ariel Sharon  
Albert Hofmann  
Claude Levi-Strauss  
Abe Vigoda  
Kirk Douglas  
Micky Rooney  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Roger Ebert  
Henry Kissinger  
Betty Ford  
Adam Bernard “Pacman” Jones  
Roman Gabriel (former NFL QB)  
Danny Bonaduce

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/168 "2007-12-28T21:59:10Z")

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Paul Wilson  
Billy Graham  
Harry Morgan  
Jiang Zemin  
Art Linkletter  
Paul Wight  
Eli Wallach  
Peter Falk  
Abe Vigoda  
Les Paul  
C. Everett Koop  
Glen Benton  
Michelle Trachtenburg

Well, last year I had Pavarotti and Lady Bird Johnson, so I had some points for a change. I’ve kept the same list as before, only replacing those who actually died.

1. [Paul Willson](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Willson) He’s quite overweight, so it’s quite possible.

2. [Billy Graham](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_graham) - Sad to seem him go, but he’s 89 already.

3. [Harry Morgan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Morgan) - I love Col. Potter and will really feel bad about this one.

4. [江泽民](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang_Zemin) Unlikely, but it could happen and is worth 20-21 points.

5. [Art Linkletter](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Linkletter) I actually doubt this one, but it could definitely happen.

6. [Paul Wight](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Show) - Big Man = Big Points.

7. [Eli Wallach](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Wallach) - Had him 3 years ago. I figure he’s got to go.

8. [Peter Falk](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Falk) - He smokes like a fish. Whatever that means.

9. [Abe Vigoda](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abe_vigoda) I can’t believe I didn’t have him in previous years.

10. [Les Paul](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Paul) - Time to switch to electric harp, Les.

11. [C. Everett Koop](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._Everett_Koop) Hey, had you smoked, you would not have made it this far.

12. [Glen Benton](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Benton) I thought you were going to off yourself at age 33?

And finally, my annual pick that I go with every single year for big points.

1. [Michelle Trachtenberg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Trachtenberg) - I don’t want her dead. I just like the idea of getting big points off a random pick

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/169 "2007-12-28T22:13:50Z")

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FTR, Michelle Trachtenberg can put her pick on my big points any time she wants to.

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**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/170 "2007-12-28T22:44:01Z")

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Ariel Sharon  
Fidel Castro  
Prince Phillip of Edinburgh  
Muhammed Ali  
Eunice Kennedy Shriver  
Dick Cheney  
John Goodman  
Ruth Bader Ginsberg  
Farah Fawcett  
Stephen Hawking  
Anne McCaffrey  
James Earl Jones  
Elizabeth Edwards

Alternates:  
Margaret Thatcher  
Elizabeth Taylor

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**Author:** ![Monstera\_deliciosa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monstera_deliciosa/32/109_2.png) [@Monstera\_deliciosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstera_deliciosa)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/171 "2007-12-28T22:55:29Z")

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My list:

Bobby Brown  
Sylvia Browne  
Hugo Chavez  
Roger Ebert  
Elizabeth Edwards  
Farrah Fawcett  
Estelle Getty  
Andy Griffith  
Jack Klugman  
Pauline Phillips  
Suzanne Pleshette  
Joan Van Ark  
Eddie Van Halen

Alternates in order of preference:

Fidel Castro  
William Schallert  
Britney Spears

By Bobby Brown, I mean the singer formerly married to Whitney Houston, not the makeup professional. Pauline Phillips is the original Dear Abby.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/172 "2007-12-29T01:52:36Z")

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The joint list of **SpoilerVirgin** and **psychobunny** :

Ruben Studdard  
Courtney Love  
Nolan Miller  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Judith Krantz  
Fidel Castro  
Vidal Sassoon  
Liza Minelli  
John McLaughlin  
Gina Lollabridgida  
Chuck Norris  
Soupy Sales  
Annette Funicello

Alternate:  
Dick Clark

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**Author:** ![Critical\_Mass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Critical\_Mass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical_Mass)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/173 "2007-12-29T05:48:35Z")

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I’d like to wait until a little closer to new year’s eve, but I’m going to be off-line for the next week.

Thanks for picking up the torch **amarone**

Happy New Year - Good luck in 08  
Tyrone Jones – CFL linebacker

Robin Roberts – ABC News

Farrah Fawcett

Amy Winehouse

Jerry Lewis

Randy Pausch

Don Wittman - CBC

Charlton Heston

Stephen Stills

Archbishop Christodoulos

Fidel Castro

Ronnie Biggs

Queen Elizabeth

Alternates

Dick Cheney

John Goodman

Ozzy Osbourne

Tyrone Jones  
Robin Roberts  
Farrah Fawcett  
Amy Winehouse  
Jerry Lewis  
Randy Pausch  
Don Wittman  
Charlton Heston  
Stephen Stills  
Archbishop Christodoulos  
Fidel Castro  
Ronnie Biggs  
Queen Elizabeth

Alternates  
Dick Cheney  
John Goodman  
Ozzy Osbourne

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/174 "2007-12-29T15:46:27Z")

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Here’s mine:

Pete Doherty  
Farrah Fawcett  
Mitzi Gaynor  
Wink Martindale  
Liza Minnelli  
Jaye P. Morgan  
Bettie Page  
Ron Popeil  
William Safire  
Vidal Sassoon  
Phyllis Schlafley  
Paul Verhoeven  
Amy Winehouse  
Alternate: Joyce Brothers

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**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/175 "2007-12-29T16:43:45Z")

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Plaintext List:

Edmund Hillary  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Muhammad Ali  
Arnold Palmer  
Mandy Patinkin  
Mel Brooks  
Britney Spears  
Earl Scruggs  
John Madden  
Eli Wallach  
Mickey Rooney  
Jalal Talabani  
Pervez Musharraf

Alt:  
Bob Barker  
R. Lee Ermey

Fancy List:

1. **Edmund Hillary** - First to top Everest (July 1919)
2. **Elizabeth Taylor** - Perfumer and Queen of Ancient Egypt (February 1932)
3. **Muhammad Ali** (aka Cassius Clay) - Legendary Boxer (January 1942)
4. **Arnold Palmer** - Golfer and refreshing beverage namesake (September 1929)
5. **Mandy Patinkin** - His name was Inigo Montoya (November 1952)
6. **Mel Brooks** - I really hope the 2000 Year Old Man doesn’t get me any points (June 1926)
7. **Britney Spears** - World’s Greatest Mother and candid crotch shot enthusiast (December 1981)
8. **Earl Scruggs** - Bluegrass musician (January 1924)
9. **John Madden** - Senile old parody of a football commentator, who goes on long rants about how much he enjoys pulled pork sandwiches during prime time network broadcasts. Mmm, pulled pork sandwiches. Y’know, Al, I love coming to Carolina Panthers home games because there are more restaurants serving really good pulled pork sandwiches in the two blocks around the stadium than there are in the rest of the country combined. I like mine with a nice, tangy barbecue sauce and a soft roll that has a bit of a tough crust. That way, it’s still possible to pick it up and eat. Oh, hey, one of the teams just scored a touchdown on a double end-around. Anyway, a great side dish for a pulled pork sandwich is… (April 1936)
10. **Lee Marvin** - Actor and Marine vet (I can’t make a joke at Lee Marvin’s expense, or he might kick my ass) (February 1924)
11. **Mickey Rooney** - Former child actor, current crotchety old man (September 1920)
12. **Jalal Talabani** - President of Iraq (November 1933)
13. **Pervez Musharraf** - President of Pakistan (August 1943)

Alternates:  
A1. **Bob Barker** - Come on down, you’re the next contestant on Celebrity Death Pool! (December 1923)  
A2. **R. Lee Ermey** - Who am I kidding? The only way he’s dying is something cool like an airplane explosion or knife fight (March 1944)

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**Author:** ![El\_Perro\_Fumando](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e9c0ed/32.png) [@El\_Perro\_Fumando](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Perro_Fumando)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/176 "2007-12-29T16:48:27Z")

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No comments this year, just the list.

Ariel Sharon  
Fidel Castro  
Nancy Reagan  
Eunice Kennedy Shriver  
Britney Spears  
Sid Caesar  
Gene Wilder  
Teri Garr  
Pat Summerall  
Jose Carreras  
Terry Jones  
Richard Dawson  
Bob Barker

Alternates:  
Eli Wallach  
Judi Dench

(ETA: Terry Jones was one of the Monty Python boys - name seems kinda generic, so I thought I’d clear it up)

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/177 "2007-12-29T17:00:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Only Mostly Dead]

1. **Lee Marvin** - Actor and Marine vet (I can’t make a joke at Lee Marvin’s expense, or he might kick my ass) (February 1924))  
[/QUOTE]  
Lee is in no position to kick anyone’s ass. I will use Eli Wallach from your plain list.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/178 "2007-12-29T17:04:48Z")

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[QUOTE=amarone]  
Lee is in no position to kick anyone’s ass.  
[/QUOTE]  
That was weird. Has he made a comeback since 1987?

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**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/179 "2007-12-29T17:06:34Z")

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[QUOTE=amarone]  
Lee is in no position to kick anyone’s ass. I will use Eli Wallach from your plain list.  
[/QUOTE]

Damnit, that’s what I get for waking up and posting tired. Scratch Marvin (really, what the hell was I thinking?) and scratch Wallach. Go with Bob Barker.

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**Author:** ![mikeargo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@mikeargo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikeargo)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2008/428439/180 "2007-12-29T17:23:57Z")

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No comments, just the list:

William F. Buckley  
Pamela Anderson  
George Steinbrenner  
Amy Winehouse  
Bob Guccione  
Gordie Howe  
Bill Parcells  
Stephen Hawking  
Wilford Brimley  
John Paul Stephens

Alternate: Liza Minelli

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