# The Celebrity Death Pool 2009

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2008, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262 "2008-12-01T23:40:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/281 "2008-12-30T22:25:52Z")

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> [@VunderBob](#):
>
> If they take out half of his large intestine, does that mean he has a semicolon?

Parenthetically, yes.

I’ll shut up now.

The problem with waiting until the last day to submit is that inevitably your own _SUPER DUPER RARE PICK_ Like, the best evar!!!111!! will crop up here and there in other peoples lists and therefore make it look like you just waited until the last moment and combed over other’s hard work.

To this I say, not true. This thing is a bizarre obsession, TYVM.

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**Author:** ![ErinPuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@ErinPuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ErinPuff)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/282 "2008-12-30T22:32:28Z")

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Colin Baker  
Pierre Boulez  
Dave Brubeck  
Jimmy Carter  
Fidel Castro  
Ted Kennedy  
Kim Jong-Il  
Henry Kissinger  
Michael Jackson  
Fred Phelps  
Prince Philip  
Margaret Thatcher  
Amy Winehouse

Alternate: Dick Cheney

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**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/283 "2008-12-30T22:58:11Z")

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Queen Elizabeth II  
Philip, Duke of Edinburgh  
Barack Obama  
Gough Whitlam, former Australian PM  
Patrick Swayze  
Angela Lansbury  
Hazel Hawke, former wife of Bob Hawke, former Australian PM  
Dame Joan Sutherland  
Fidel Castro  
Baroness Thatcher  
Michael Jackson  
OJ Simpson  
Kylie Minogue

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/284 "2008-12-30T23:00:39Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> :dubious:
> 
> Both were mentioned by the press and they mentioned efforts other than just being terminally ill, but I will defer to the judge of the contest if there is a direct complaint.

Looks like the rules let them in.

It doesn’t absolve the picks as lame. Capital L. There just are so many picks out there that I would hope that Rahm Qoch’s yearly domination hasn’t sent us into desperation picks. We’re better than that, aren’t we?

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/285 "2008-12-30T23:08:12Z")

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> [@NurseCarmen](#):
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> Looks like the rules let them in.
> 
> It doesn’t absolve the picks as lame. Capital L. There just are so many picks out there that I would hope that Rahm Qoch’s yearly domination hasn’t sent us into desperation picks. We’re better than that, aren’t we?

We’re playing a game in which we get points when people die, and you ask that?😛

Myself, if I was newsworthy and dying, I’d be honored to be someone’s pick. It’s not as if we want them to die(well, with one or two exceptions)😃

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/286 "2008-12-30T23:52:15Z")

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Last year was my first try at this, so naturally I got none of them right. Many of the names below are from that list.

Mel Brooks  
Christopher Lee  
Elizabeth Taylor  
George H W Bush  
Joanne Woodward  
Pele  
Ronnie Corbett  
Peter Sallis  
Gary Glitter  
Macaulay Culkin  
Terry Pratchett  
Bobby McFerrin  
Tim Conway  
Jackie Stewart

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/287 "2008-12-31T00:31:41Z")

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I’m going to go ahead and post 'cause tomorrow is looking to be busy here at work, and I don’t want to forget.

1. Vasily Aleksanyan - VP of Yukos Oil, [del]currently imprisoned[/del] freed today on bail. Suffering from cancer, tuberculosis and AIDS and his spleen was surgically removed. 36 Years old.
2. Fidel Castro - die you bastard!
3. Rev. Billy Graham
4. Ted Kennedy - die you bastard!
5. Nancy Reagan
6. Patrick Swayze
7. Annette Funicello
8. Zsa Zsa Gabor - only 2 pts, but what the hey.
9. Elizabeth Edwards
10. Dom Deluise - suffering from prostate and penile cancer (Owie ☹ )
11. Ronnie Biggs
12. Jon Anderson - lead singer of Yes - acute respiratory failure
13. Hank Cochran - country music singer and songwriter riddled with tumors

no alternates at this time

Clean version

Vasily Aleksanyan  
Fidel Castro  
Rev. Billy Graham  
Ted Kennedy  
Nancy Reagan  
Patrick Swayze  
Annette Funicello  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Elizabeth Edwards  
Dom Deluise  
Ronnie Biggs  
Jon Anderson  
Hank Cochran

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/288 "2008-12-31T03:51:58Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> We’re playing a game in which we get points when people die, and you ask that?😛
> 
> Myself, if I was newsworthy and dying, I’d be honored to be someone’s pick. It’s not as if we want them to die(well, with one or two exceptions)😃

That is the spirit of the season! 😃

IIRC several of **Rahm Qoch** ’s last year picks did look like they were selected from the journal of “Will bite the dust in a few days, 2008 edition” And I get the grief for picking a few from the 2009 list..

In these days diversifying is crucial like it is investing in the stock market. (Yet another deadly occupation nowadays) 🙂

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/289 "2008-12-31T03:55:38Z")

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> [@NurseCarmen](#):
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> Looks like the rules let them in.
> 
> It doesn’t absolve the picks as lame. Capital L. There just are so many picks out there that I would hope that Rahm Qoch’s yearly domination hasn’t sent us into desperation picks. We’re better than that, aren’t we?

And how are those picks any worse than going through a list of Medal of Honor winners and guessing which ones will die during 2009? Or than picking the president-elect?

I’m just not getting this distinction you’re trying to establish.

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/290 "2008-12-31T04:02:51Z")

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Patrick Swayze  
Hugh Hefner  
OJ Simpson  
Kim Jong Il  
Pervez Musharaff  
Hamid Karzai  
Nancy Reagan  
Betty White  
Bob Barker  
Willaim Shatner  
Art Linkletter  
Barbera Bush  
Lindsey Lohan

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/291 "2008-12-31T04:25:55Z")

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> [@OtakuLoki](#):
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> And how are those picks any worse than going through a list of Medal of Honor winners and guessing which ones will die during 2009? Or than picking the president-elect?
> 
> I’m just not getting this distinction you’re trying to establish.

Because the people you are mentioning are famous for something other than just being sick. It seems to me the distinction is between famous people that just happen to be dying and dying people that just happen to be dying.

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**Author:** ![Critical\_Mass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Critical\_Mass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical_Mass)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/292 "2008-12-31T04:51:06Z")

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Thanks for putting this together again this year **amarone**  
Patrick Swayze  
Ted Kennedy  
Seve Ballesteros  
Robert Novak  
Jade Goody  
Vasily Aleksanyan  
Steve Jobs  
Samak Sundaravej  
Sara Douglass  
Sir Dai Llewellyn  
Genaro Hernandez  
Kim Jong Il  
Bobby Robson  
Alternates

Paul Kraus  
Michael Jackson

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/293 "2008-12-31T05:37:58Z")

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Yay, it’s time to play Angel of Death! I missed it last year and everybody lived, but waiting this late will prevent other posters from poaching from my brilliant picks. like I did for about 80% of mine

The humans-only rule prevents me from getting 81 points for Socks Clinton :mad: but here are the rest, with birthdates if they haven’t been already mentioned upthread:

_Known to be Sick:_  
Elizabeth Edwards (born 7/3/49), wronged would-be First Lady  
Corazon Aquino (1/25/33), ex-president of the Phillipines  
Peter Falk (9/16/27), angel with Alzheimer’s

_This year’s Big Star Trek Death:_  
William Shatner Himself, whose heart will be broken by a) not being in ST 11 and b) supporting his increasing girth over the years. Bonus pathos points if it happens near movie premiere.

_A couple of dicks:_  
Dick Cheney  
Andy Dick (12/21/65)

_…And Speaking of the Drug-Addled…_  
Jeff Conaway (10/5/50), professional rehab patient  
Paul “Gazza” Gascoigne (5/27/67), soccer player

_The Ancients:_  
Walter Cronkite (11/4/16), anchorman among anchormen  
Nancy Reagan  
Abe Vigoda (2/24/21), who surprises people by a) not being dead and b) not Italian (son of Russian immigrants)

_Endangered Species:_  
Bernard Madoff (4/29/38), who’s just made tons of enemies, one of whom stole a statue off his property the other day. Maybe his life is next.  
Asif Ali Zardari (7/26/55), 14th President of Pakistan and widower of Benazir Bhutto; his nation seems to be full of people who want to reunite them.

_Alternate:_ The one, the only, the immortal Elizabeth Taylor, whose ailments have been chronicled in the papers since the Eisenhower Administration.

**Plain Vanilla Version:**

Elizabeth Edwards  
Corazon Aquino  
Peter Falk  
William Shatner  
Dick Cheney  
Andy Dick  
Jeff Conaway  
Paul “Gazza” Gascoigne  
Walter Cronkite  
Nancy Reagan  
Abe Vigoda  
Bernard Madoff  
Asif Ali Zardari

Elizabeth Taylor

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/294 "2008-12-31T06:50:23Z")

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[Patrick Swayze](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_swayze) actor  
[Wendy Richard](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy_Richard) actress  
[Vasily Aleksanyan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Aleksanyan) enemy of Putin  
[Roger Ebert](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ebert) film critic  
[Chi Cheng](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Cheng_(musician)) deftones bassist  
[Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrah](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdel_Basset_Ali_al-Megrahi) Lockerbie bomber  
[Robert Novak](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Novak) asshole  
[Steve Jobs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_jobs) Applehead man  
[Joe Andruzzi](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Andruzzi) Former NFL  
[Orlando Thomas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Thomas) Former NFL  
[Steve Smith]([Steve Smith (running back) - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Smith_(running_back))  
\<[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve\_Smith\_(running\_back)&gt;](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Smith_%28running_back%29&gt;)) Former NFL  
[Abdul Aziz al-Hakim](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Aziz_al-Hakim) Iraqi politician  
[James Blake Miller](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Blake_Miller) Marlboro marine, sad footnote.

Alt [Farrah Fawcett](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farrah_Fawcett) Angel.  
Alt [Seve Ballesteros](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seve_Ballesteros) Spanish golfer  
Patrick Swayze  
Wendy Richard  
Farrah Fawcett  
Roger Ebert  
Chi Cheng  
Abdel Basset Ali la-Megrahi  
Robert Novak  
Steve Jobs  
Joe Andruzzi  
Orlando Thomas  
Steve Smith  
Abdul Aziz al-Hakim  
James Blake Miller

Alt

Leonid Stadnyk  
Seve Ballesteros

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/295 "2008-12-31T06:59:19Z")

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Here I am once again posting my list on the last day of the year. Although I scored zero points for 2008, (and for others who had similar scores), it’s really easy to compile a 2009 list - just copy 2008. 🙂

Ervin ‘Magic’ Johnson  
Jerry Lee Lewis  
Jerry Lewis  
Jayne Meadows  
Art Linkletter  
Ann B. Davis  
William Shatner  
Barbara Billingsley  
Larry Storch  
Professor Irwin Corey  
Charlie Daniels  
Les Paul  
Barbara Bain

Chevy Chase

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**Author:** ![SandyHook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@SandyHook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SandyHook)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/296 "2008-12-31T07:45:01Z")

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Ariel Sharon  
Billy Graham  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Farrah Fawcett  
Fidel Castro  
Kirk Douglas  
Nancy Reagan  
Patrick Swayze  
Ray Bradbury  
Stephen Hawking  
Ted Kennedy  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Bob Barker

Alternates:

John Goodman  
Walter Cronkite

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/297 "2008-12-31T09:54:08Z")

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The quick list:

Tara Jones  
Tom Buckley  
Elizabeth van Sickle  
Patrick Swayze  
Allister Boyd  
Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi  
Alex Macomber  
Pete Doherty  
Abdel-Aziz al-Hakim  
Steve Phillips  
Steve Jobs  
Seve Ballesteros  
Colin Howe  
Amy Winehouse

Ariel Sharon  
Robert Mugabe  
Kim Jong Il

The detailed list:

1. [Tara Jones](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/7617509.stm)

2. [Tom Buckley](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7766082.stm), [Thomas Buckley is fundraising for The Christie](http://www.justgiving.com/thebuckers)

3. [Elizabeth van Sickle](http://www.shelbycountyreporter.com/news/2008/oct/10/unusual-blessing/)

4. Patrick Swayze (Actor)

5. [Allister Boyd](http://www.gcal.ac.uk/news/pressoffice/releases/260908.html)

6. [Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27295713/)

7. [Alex Macomber](http://weeklyvolcano.typepad.com/spew/benefits/)

8. [Pete Doherty](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Doherty)

9. [Abdel-Aziz al-Hakim](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdel-Aziz_al-Hakim)

10. [Steve Phillips](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-548248/Fireman-cheated-death-discovers-terminal-cancer.html)

11. Steve Jobs (Apple)

12. Seve Ballesteros (Golfer)

13. [Colin Howe](http://www.colinhowe.org/)  
[The Times & The Sunday Times: breaking news & today's latest headlines](http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article2600052.ece)

14. [Amy Winehouse](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_winehouse)

A1. Ariel Sharon  
A2. Robert Mugabe  
A3. Kim Jong Il (Chief Korean nutter).

Tara, Tom, Allister, and Alex should be checked for false starts (no reports of death as of typing).

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/298 "2008-12-31T10:21:22Z")

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1. John Goodman
2. Shane McGowan
3. Queen Elizabeth
4. Terry Gilliam
5. J.D. Salinger
6. Cliff Richard
7. Britney Spears
8. Patrick Swayze
9. Michael Jackson
10. William Shatner
11. Keith Richards
12. Ann B. Davis
13. Terry Pratchett

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/299 "2008-12-31T10:43:06Z")

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My picks, sliding in at the last minute:

Dom Deluise  
Steve Jobs  
Michael Jackson  
Dick Cheney  
Coolio  
Patrick Swayze  
Kelsey Grammar  
Dick Clark  
Mary Kate Olsen  
Lindsay Lohan  
Fidel Castro  
Terry Pratchett  
Amy Winehouse

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/300 "2008-12-31T12:42:19Z")

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**Quartz** , you’ve got fourteen on your list. Who’s going to get bumped off and thereby rendered doomed?

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