# The Celebrity Death Pool 2009

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2008, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262 "2008-12-01T23:40:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mona\_Lott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@Mona\_Lott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lott)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/121 "2008-12-11T18:16:42Z")

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Patrick Swayze  
Ted Kennedy  
Amy Winehouse  
Nancy Reagan  
Barbara Bush  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Tony Danza  
Fred Phelps  
Muhammed Ali  
Loretta Lynn  
Fidel Castro  
Walter Cronkite  
James Garner

Alternates  
Mary Tyler Moore  
Angela Lansbury  
Zsa Zsa Gabor

Barbara Bush–Mrs. George Herbert Walker Bush

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/122 "2008-12-11T21:55:24Z")

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I’ve been enjoying reading the thread this year, so I’ll give it a shot. Looks like I only have one unique pick.

Amy Winehouse  
Hough Heffner  
James Garner  
Harry Morgan  
Martin Sheen  
Kelsey Grammer  
Fidel Castro  
Ted Kennedy  
B. B. King  
Clint Eastwood  
Queen Elizabeth  
George Steinbrenner  
Lou Holtz

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/123 "2008-12-11T21:56:13Z")

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I don’t see why seven people have put QEII on their list. Sure, she’s in her early eighties, but looks healthy. Her mum lived to be 100. And the queen has something important to live\* for\*, that is, seeing Charles gets to spend as little time as possible on the throne.

If Elizabeth makes it to 2015, she’ll be the longest reigning monarch in British history. That’s not so far away either.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/124 "2008-12-12T00:02:38Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> I’ve been enjoying reading the thread this year, so I’ll give it a shot. Looks like I only have one unique pick.

I make it three, not including Hough Heffner (Sheen, Grammer, Holtz).

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/125 "2008-12-12T00:07:39Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> It’s likely too late for this year, but can I suggest a modification for next year? To whit, a ‘first mention bonus’: the person who first nominates someone gets a bonus equal to the number of other people who also mention that person. This would introduce an interesting game dynamic - Dopers would pile on some to be (hopefully) sure of some points, but disdain others to get ahead of the pack, while encouraging an early posting date which would add to the excitement. Otherwise we’re all at the feet of Rachm Qoch, aren’t we?

I see where you are coming from, but really do not want the admin of trying to work that out.

FYI, if someone had been first to name the top 13 still-alive celebrities in 2008, they would have 441 points and be in the lead, 97 points ahead of **Rachm Qoch**.

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**Author:** ![Kilvert\_s\_Pagan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@Kilvert\_s\_Pagan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilvert_s_Pagan)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/126 "2008-12-12T02:26:58Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> I see where you are coming from, but really do not want the admin of trying to work that out.
> 
> FYI, if someone had been first to name the top 13 still-alive celebrities in 2008, they would have 441 points and be in the lead, 97 points ahead of **Rachm Qoch**.

If wonder if **Quartz** ’s intent was to only grant the bonus if that pick actually were to croak?

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**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/127 "2008-12-12T03:14:34Z")

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Subscribing to the thread.

I’ll post picks later.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/128 "2008-12-12T12:54:09Z")

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The people who picked Bettie Page have had her replaced with their first alternate.  
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Long Time First Time\*\* - see post 103.

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**Author:** ![SkyAudley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@SkyAudley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkyAudley)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/129 "2008-12-12T13:05:59Z")

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Richard Widmark, Peter Falk, Jackie Cooper, Adam Rich, Danny Bonaduce, etc.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/130 "2008-12-12T15:37:18Z")

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I’m revising my previously submitted list following the death of Bettie Page:

F. Lee Bailey  
Pete Doherty  
Farrah Fawcett  
Mitzi Gaynor  
Wink Martindale  
Liza Minnelli  
Ron Popeil  
Vidal Sassoon  
Phyllis Schlafley  
Boris Spassky  
Patrick Swayze  
Gore Vidal  
Amy Winehouse  
Alternates:  
Rich Little  
Joyce Brothers

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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/131 "2008-12-12T15:51:49Z")

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Do I get some kind of no-prize for having two people on my list die before the year could start? I’ve revised my list again, so now my list is:

John Goodman  
Fidel Castro  
Fyvush Finkel  
Kirk Douglas  
Ariel Sharon  
Eartha Kitt  
Patrick Swayze  
Lex Luger aka Lawrence Wendell Pfohl  
Jack Kevorkian  
Ray Harryhausen  
Ron Silver  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Jerry Lewis

Alternates:  
William Schallert  
Beverly Clearly  
Doris Day

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/132 "2008-12-12T19:30:36Z")

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I changed a few of them from last year.

Muhammed Ali  
Art Linkletter  
Patrick Swayze  
Andy Rooney  
Farrah Fawcett  
Jack T. Chick  
Billy Graham  
Betty Ford  
Ted Kennedy  
Amy Winehouse  
Roger Ebert  
Bum Phillips  
Kitty Wells

Kirk Douglas  
Billy Graham  
Fidel Castro

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**Author:** ![Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crown_Prince_of_Irony)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/133 "2008-12-12T20:57:08Z")

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Amy Winehouse  
Blake Fielder-Civil  
Pete Doherty  
Fidel Castro  
Robert Byrd  
Nancy Reagan  
Michael Moore  
Michael Mukasy  
Ann Coulter  
Pope Benedict XVI  
Hutton Gibson (Mel Gibson’s father, and noted wingnut)  
Fred Phelps  
Dino De Laurentiis

Alternates:  
Ted Kennedy  
Jimmy Carter  
Michael Lohan

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/134 "2008-12-12T21:49:56Z")

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I have a theory.

That Rahm Qoch whose handle I just _got_ after how many years here? is actually Abe Vigoda in real life.  
PSSSST, **Twicky** Bettie Page just died.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/135 "2008-12-12T21:53:06Z")

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> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#):
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> I have a theory.
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> That Rahm Qoch whose handle I just _got_ after how many years here? is actually Abe Vigoda in real life.  
> PSSSST, **Twicky** Bettie Page just died.

You just got his name? Tell me, I haven’t got it yet.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/136 "2008-12-13T02:06:34Z")

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> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#):
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> PSSSST, **Twicky** Bettie Page just died.

Yeah, see my revised list a few posts up.

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**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2008, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/137 "2008-12-13T02:44:22Z")

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Patrick Swayze  
Ted Kennedy  
Fidel Castro  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Bob Barker  
Barbara Bush  
Joan Kennedy  
James Arness  
Jerry Lewis  
Jay Leno  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Prince Phillip  
Farrah Fawcett

Alternates

Peter Graves  
Eunice Kennedy Shriver  
Kevin Eubanks

Okay, Swayze and Senator Ted are probably gimmes … although watch them survive now just to spite me! 😃 Some of these folks are holdovers … from last year’s list and some from several years ago! Note: the Barbara Bush on the list is Mrs. George Bush, W’s mother, not his daughter. LOL

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2008, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/138 "2008-12-13T13:31:04Z")

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> [@Kilvert\_s\_Pagan](#):
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> If wonder if **Quartz** ’s intent was to only grant the bonus if that pick actually were to croak?

Yes - I should have been clearer.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2008, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/139 "2008-12-13T14:30:09Z")

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> [@Kilvert\_s\_Pagan](#):
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> If wonder if **Quartz** ’s intent was to only grant the bonus if that pick actually were to croak?

That wouldn’t be too hard to work out, albeit it would be a manual process. I put the lists into my spreadsheet in order that they are posted, mostly, so a search from the top will find the first nominator. I may play around as the “season” progresses and see what effect it has.

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**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2008, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/140 "2008-12-13T17:45:02Z")

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Kirk Douglas  
Annette Funicello  
Eunice Shriver  
Muhammad Ali  
Ted Kennedy  
Fidel Castro  
Vladimir Putin  
Ariel Sharon  
Nelson Mandela  
Walter Cronkite  
Dick Clark  
Michael Jackson  
Patrick Swayze  
Alternate:  
Sarah Palin  
Sean Hannitty

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