# The Celebrity Death Pool 2009

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2008, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262 "2008-12-01T23:40:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/161 "2008-12-17T01:49:19Z")

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Ted Kennedy  
Barbara Bush,Sr  
Patrick Swaze  
Reuben Studdard  
Mike Tyson  
Fidel Castro  
Kim Jong-Il  
Bernard Madoff  
ZsaZsa Gabor  
Elizabeth Taylor

alternates:  
Jocelyn Wildenstein  
Margo Kidder  
Andy Rooney

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/162 "2008-12-17T01:55:27Z")

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> [@jali](#):
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> Ted Kennedy  
> Barbara Bush,Sr  
> Patrick Swaze  
> Reuben Studdard  
> Mike Tyson  
> Fidel Castro  
> Kim Jong-Il  
> Bernard Madoff  
> ZsaZsa Gabor  
> Elizabeth Taylor
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> alternates:  
> Jocelyn Wildenstein  
> Margo Kidder  
> Andy Rooney

You need 13 - I will take all your alternates unless I hear otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Ms\_Macphisto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Ms\_Macphisto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms_Macphisto)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/163 "2008-12-17T07:17:51Z")

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Nelson Mandela  
Jerry Lee Lewis  
Farrah Fawcett  
Wendy Richard  
Roger Ebert  
Michael J. Fox  
Patrick Swayze  
Margaret Thatcher  
Dorothy Hamill  
Pete Doherty  
Amy Winehouse  
Fidel Castro  
Terry Pratchett

Alternates:  
Jimmy Carter  
Muhammad Ali  
Kirk Douglas

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**Author:** ![Lsura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Lsura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lsura)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/164 "2008-12-17T19:19:44Z")

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Based on Macworld announcement, I am swapping Lori Drew for Steve Jobs. Corrected plain list below - I don’t intend any additional changes to this between now and the 31st.

Tom Bosley  
Jean Stapleton  
Hank Aaron  
Florence Henderson  
Ann B. Davis  
Nancy Reagan  
Steve Jobs  
Neil Armstrong  
Patrick Swayze  
O.J. Simpson  
Magic Johnson  
Bob Dole

Alternates

James Brady  
Roman Polanski  
Imelda Marcos

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**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/165 "2008-12-17T19:27:18Z")

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Rodney Rogers – Newly paralyzed fromer NBAer  
Dave Drevecky – Former pitcher, former two armer  
Kieran Culkin – Random child actor death  
Patrick Swayze  
Eric Shanteau – Olympic swimmer with cancer  
John Wooden  
Seve Ballesteros  
Adam Frey – Former college wrestler with cancer  
Mike Tyson  
Brian Doyle Murray  
Dwight Harrison – Former NFL cornerback  
Brandon Jennings – Basketball player in Europe  
Martina Hingis

The plain list:  
Rodney Rogers  
Dave Drevecky  
Kieran Culkin  
Patrick Swayze  
Eric Shanteau  
John Wooden  
Seve Ballesteros  
Adam Frey  
Mike Tyson  
Brian Doyle Murray  
Dwight Harrison  
Brandon Jennings  
Martina Hingis

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**Author:** ![Lsura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Lsura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lsura)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/166 "2008-12-17T23:03:33Z")

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Due to my lack of copy/paste skills, I do have to post this once more - I left Bob Newhart out of the last one.

Bob Newhart  
Tom Bosley  
Jean Stapleton  
Hank Aaron  
Florence Henderson  
Ann B. Davis  
Nancy Reagan  
Steve Jobs  
Neil Armstrong  
Patrick Swayze  
O.J. Simpson  
Magic Johnson  
Bob Dole

Alternates  
James Brady  
Roman Polanski  
Imelda Marcos

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/167 "2008-12-18T02:32:42Z")

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I _like_ Koko Taylor; my picks live forever. Did I miss the staff meeting about why we are picking 13 immortals?

John Forsythe  
Elizabeth Edwards  
Barack Obama  
Robert Novak  
Ted Kennedy  
George Mitchell  
Ray Bradbury  
Ariel Sharon  
Macaulay Culkin  
Nancy Reagen  
Fidel Castro  
Kirk Douglas  
Dick Cheney

Alternates  
Carol Burnett  
Ehud Olmert  
Koko Taylor

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/168 "2008-12-18T02:35:49Z")

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Can we pick Socks the Clinton Cat? Does it count if he is euthanized?

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/169 "2008-12-18T02:42:24Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Can we pick Socks the Clinton Cat? Does it count if he is euthanized?

Mut be human.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/170 "2008-12-18T03:01:07Z")

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> [@VunderBob](#):
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> Mut be human.

Rats.  
Cats.  
_Whatever._

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**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/171 "2008-12-18T09:34:29Z")

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I should clarify I mean Barbara Bush the elder, not Barbara Bush the younger.

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**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/172 "2008-12-18T14:32:29Z")

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1. Mindy McCready (suicide-prone C/W singer)
2. Glen Benton (his scheduled suicide is long overdue…)
3. Hubert “Geese” Ausbie (The “Clown Prince of Basketball”)
4. Lew Lewis (Eddie & the Hot Rods)
5. Orson Bean (To tell the truth, I think he’s a gimme)
6. Jovanka Budisavljević Broz (Tito’s widow)
7. Eli Wallach (Actor)
8. Gary Busey (Eccentric actor)
9. Norman Borlaug (“Green Revolution” guy)
10. Mel Lastman (former mayor of Toronto)
11. Steve Jobs
12. Malcolm Scott Carpenter (U.S. Astronaut)
13. Joseph Kittinger (Aviation pioneer)  
Alternates:

Don Henley (must die, don’t let him get back together with Glen Frey!)  
Caril Ann Fugate (Famous girlfriend)

Copy-and-paste-to-Excel format:

Mindy McCready  
Glen Benton  
Hubert Ausbie  
Lew Lewis  
Orson Bean  
Jovanka Budisavljević Broz  
Eli Wallach  
Gary Busey  
Norman Borlaug  
Mel Lastman  
Steve Jobs  
Malcolm Scott Carpenter  
Joseph Kittinger  
Alternates:

Don Henley  
Caril Ann Fugate

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/173 "2008-12-18T15:17:28Z")

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Going for the unique picks, **Spiff**?

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**Author:** ![discodancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@discodancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/discodancer)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/174 "2008-12-18T17:34:00Z")

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> [@discodancer](#):
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> Ted Kennedy  
> Jerry Lewis  
> Hugh Hefner  
> Billy Graham  
> Barbara Bush  
> John McCain  
> Hulk Hogan  
> Roger Ebert  
> Nancy Reagan  
> Queen Elizabeth II  
> Elizabeth Taylor  
> Kirk Douglas  
> Andy Dick
> 
> Alternates:  
> Lindsey Lohan  
> Brittany Spears  
> Mary Kate Olsen

In my list I am referring to the elder Barbara Bush.

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**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/175 "2008-12-18T20:01:25Z")

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Clint Eastwood  
Ariel Sharon  
Fidel Castro  
Roger Ebert  
Chemical Ali  
Dick Clark  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Wilford Brimley  
Steve Jobs  
Peter O’Toole  
Prince Philip  
Elizabeth Edwards  
Barack Obama

Alternates:

Barbara Bush  
Mary Stewart  
Ray Bradbury

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/176 "2008-12-18T20:08:50Z")

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This time last year, we had 98 posts in the thread. This year, 176. I continue to predict a sharp increase in turnout.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/177 "2008-12-18T20:51:31Z")

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And so far there are 75 entries. I, like a lot of others, are probably waiting until the last week.

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**Author:** ![The\_Blue-Sighted\_Shadow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@The\_Blue-Sighted\_Shadow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Blue-Sighted_Shadow)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/178 "2008-12-18T21:53:15Z")

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Royalty edition:

1. Akihito of Japan - Emperor of Japan
2. Naruhito, Prince Hiro - Crown Prince of Japan
3. Harald V of Norway - King of Norway
4. Princess Ragnhild of Norway, Mrs. Lorentzen - King Harald’s sister
5. Elizabeth II - Queen of quite a lot, actually
6. Charles - Prince of Wales
7. Hans-Adam II, Prince of Liechtenstein
8. Margrethe II of Denmark - Queen of Denmark
9. Beatrix of the Netherlands - Queen of the Netherlands
10. Henri, Grand Duke of Luxembourg
11. Juan Carlos I of Spain - King of Spain
12. Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden - King of Sweden
13. Albert II, Prince of Monaco

Alternates:  
Albert II of Belgium - King of the Belgians  
George Tupou V - King of Tonga  
Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck - Dragon King of Bhutan  
Emperor Akihito  
Prince Naruhito  
King Harald V  
Princess Ragnhild  
Queen Elizabeth II  
Prince Charles  
Prince Hans-Adam II  
Queen Margrethe II  
Queen Beatrix  
Grand Duke Henri  
King Juan Carlos I  
King Carl XVI  
Prince Albert II

Alternates:  
King Albert II  
King George Tupou V  
Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/179 "2008-12-18T22:15:44Z")

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Although none of my 2008 picks have yet given up the ghost, I’m retiring Bob Feller and Oral Roberts due to their diminishing point values. Replacing them will be [Edward Moore Kennedy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy) and [Paul Gascoigne](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Gascoigne). As a nod to some supermarket tabloid headlines I’ve seen, I’m also dropping hunch pick Earl Scruggs and bringing [Patrick Swayze](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Swayze) into the fold.

Since Pete Seeger is slated to turn 90 in May, 2009 will be his last year on my list whether he makes it to 2010 or not. Wikipedia articles on him and my other “returning favorites” can be found in [this post from the **Celebrity Death Pool 2008**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9288742&postcount=104) thread.

Plaintext alphabetized list:

Abdelaziz Bouteflika  
Fidel Castro  
Art Donovan  
Louis Farrakhan  
Paul Gascoigne  
Ted Kennedy  
Jack Kevorkian  
Ralph Kiner  
Pete Seeger  
Norodom Sihanouk  
Patrick Swayze  
Mort Walker  
Kay Yow

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2009/475262/180 "2008-12-18T22:48:51Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> And so far there are 75 entries. I, like a lot of others, are probably waiting until the last week.

You’re probably right. I’m doing the same, although it’ll be a lot of repeats from last year.

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