# The Celebrity Death Pool 2010

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2009, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574 "2009-12-01T11:44:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 10

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**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/181 "2009-12-23T23:03:44Z")

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1. Mary Kate Olsen – Actress (sort of), victim of peaking at age 7.
2. Chris Cooper – Actor, strangely the first person who popped into my head.
3. Barack Obama – President of the US, no friend to red states.
4. Roger Ebert – Film critic, cool guy, not looking so good these days.
5. William Shatner – Actor, giant ham, old Star Trek guy.
6. Britney Spears – Singer, professional emotional wreck
7. Alex Trebek – Game show host, reported dick.
8. Leonard Nimoy – Actor, narrator, also old Star Trek guy.
9. Amy Winehouse – Singer, not fond of rehab.
10. David Hasselhoff – Actor (sort of), floor-burger eating alcoholic.
11. Robert Downey Jr – Actor, former enemy of his liver.
12. Keith Richards – Musician, composed of 52% non-organic chemicals.
13. George W Bush – Former president, vulnerable to pretzels.

Plain List:  
Mary Kate Olsen  
Chris Cooper  
Barack Obama  
Roger Ebert  
William Shatner  
Britney Spears  
Alex Trebek  
Leonard Nimoy  
Amy Winehouse  
David Hasselhoff  
Robert Downey Jr  
Keith Richards  
George W Bush

Yes, I feel like a bad person now, thank you.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/182 "2009-12-23T23:57:08Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> John Paul Stevens, the senior Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, was born in 1920. Mr. Justice Thomas has only been around since 1948. Does this affect your choice?

Yes. Yes it does. I’ll replace him with someone I thought of this morning instead.  
**NEW LIST**  
Lilian Jackson Braun b. 1913–The Author Who Wouldn’t Die  
Kirk Douglas b. 1916–Is he Spartacus? Or am I Spartacus?  
Olivia de Haviland b. 1916–Will she die first or will it be  
Joan Fontaine b. 1917–I love feuds that will only end with death.  
Zsa Zsa Gabor b. 1917–Will she find her heavenly Green Acres this year?  
Billy Graham b. 1918–His passing will be big news here in Hippy Hollow NC.  
John Glenn b. 1921–He’s listed in my Possible Deathpool list as “astro-senator”  
Prince Philip b. 1921–Will his gaffes continue after death?  
Bob Barker b. 1923–Insert your own “spay or neuter” joke here  
Nadine Gordimer b. 1923–South African author  
Jimmy Carter b. 1924–Insert peanut or Habitat for Humanity joke here  
Lee Iaccocca b. 1924–Former Ford CEO  
Paul Gascoigne b. 1967–[This section](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Gascoigne#Alcoholism.2C_health.2C_and_legal_problems) on Wikipedia gives me hope

Alternates:  
Barbara Bush b. 1925–Obviously the former First Lady  
Dick Van Dyke b. 1925–former actor  
Ariel Sharon b. 1928–Refuses to die

Plain List:

Lilian Jackson Braun  
Kirk Douglas  
Olivia de Haviland  
Joan Fontaine  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Billy Graham  
John Glenn  
Prince Philip  
Bob Barker  
Nadine Gordimer  
Jimmy Carter  
Lee Iacocca  
Paul Gascoigne

Barbara Bush  
Dick Van Dyke  
Ariel Sharon

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/183 "2009-12-24T00:22:21Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> Has this game ever been played with lists other than Celebs?
> 
> Perhaps more for 2009, than would be for 2010, but can we name Companies that officially file for Chapter 11?
> 
> cough Blockbuster cough.

No, it’s always been celebrities. BUT that’s a hell of an interesting idea, and you should start your own pool. I’d play if I bothered to pay attention to the economy beyond trying to keep my own budget intact.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/184 "2009-12-24T01:58:39Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> No, it’s always been celebrities. BUT that’s a hell of an interesting idea, and you should start your own pool. I’d play if I bothered to pay attention to the economy beyond trying to keep my own budget intact.

Yeah, that’s the problem, I’m over budget this year as is, And on top of that I have a few other game ideas that I am already working on, Mafia related.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/185 "2009-12-24T02:16:31Z")

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> [@Small\_Hen](#):
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> 1. Barack Obama – President of the US, no friend to red states.

Welcome, and remember to contribute to our joint attorney fee pool.  
I’ll email you my paypal info.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/186 "2009-12-24T03:25:15Z")

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John Kerry’s spouse has [cancer.](http://www.theinsider.com/news/3128890_John_Kerry_s_Wife_Teresa_Heinz_Reveals_Breast_Cancer_Battle)

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**Author:** ![St.Anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@St.Anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Anger)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/187 "2009-12-24T04:15:41Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> Can you post a list in plain format please (i.e. a list of just names, and only the initial letters in capitals)?

My pleasure!

Lex Luger  
Amy Winehouse  
Lemmy Kilmeister  
Artie Lange  
Steve O  
Lyndon Larouche  
Kim Jong Il  
Verne Troyer  
Suge Knight  
Prince Charles  
Ronnie James Dio  
Phyllis Diller  
Roy Horn  
Alternates:

1. Brock Lesnar
2. Kris Kristofferson
3. Don Coryell
4. Hamid Kharzai

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/188 "2009-12-24T04:19:08Z")

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> [@St.Anger](#):
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> My pleasure!

Thanks. You are now in the system.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/189 "2009-12-24T05:12:27Z")

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Mel Brooks  
Blake Edwards  
Elizabeth Edwards  
Betty Ford  
Blake Fielder-Civil  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Stedman Graham  
Elisabeth Hasselbeck  
Teresa Heinz Kerry  
Todd Palin  
Nancy Reagan  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh

Alternates:  
Bobby Brown  
Dyan Cannon  
Empress Michiko of Japan

There’s a theme this year. I’ve never done themed lists before. I’m also taking Muhammed Ali, Robert Byrd, Fidel Castro, Dick Clark, Billy Graham, and Ariel Sharon off my list. They’ve been warned and if you have any (or all) of them, this could be your year.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/190 "2009-12-24T05:54:18Z")

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So I guess the more “X is still alive?!” people you have, the better?

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**Author:** ![Registered\_at\_Last](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@Registered\_at\_Last](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Registered_at_Last)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/191 "2009-12-24T06:03:31Z")

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Here goes … another first time player, long time fascinated ghoul.

Now that I am **Registered at Last** I can finally do this. It always felt wrong to register JUST for the Death Pool. But now I can indulge guilt free. So here goes, a fairly musical list…

Reshma, 62 - Pakestani Folk Singer  
Ronnie James Dio, 67- Black Sabbath etc singer  
Candye Kane, 44- Singer  
Irwin Barker - Canadian Comedian  
[Steve Mazan](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2083431/bio), 39 - Comedian [“Dying to do Letterman”](http://dyingtodoletterman.com) (\*\* Can I get a ruling on eligibility?)  
He is MORE famous due to his cancer … not clear that he would be known at all without it. [This](http://www.spike.com/video/steve-mazan-stand-up/2676123) clip appears to be from prior to his diagnosis.  
Bryant Gumbel, 61  
Johnny Hallyday, 66 - “French Elvis”  
Morrissey, 50 - Singer  
Elton John, 62  
Chester Bennington, 33 - Linkin Park singer  
Mehdi Hassan, 82 - Pakistani singer  
Jack Savidge - Friendly Fire singer  
Steve Jobs, 54

Alternates:  
Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 76  
Elizabeth Edwards, 60  
Robert Byrd, 92

Plain Text List:  
Reshma  
Ronnie James Dio  
Candye Kane  
Irwin Barker  
Steve Mazan  
Bryant Gumbel  
Johnny Hallyday  
Morrissey  
Elton John  
Chester Bennington  
Mehdi Hassan  
Jack Savidge  
Steve Jobs

Alternates:  
Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Elizabeth Edwards  
Robert Byrd

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**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/192 "2009-12-24T07:08:54Z")

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> [@amarinth](#):
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> There’s a theme this year. I’ve never done themed lists before. I’m also taking Muhammed Ali, Robert Byrd, Fidel Castro, Dick Clark, Billy Graham, and Ariel Sharon off my list. They’ve been warned and if you have any (or all) of them, this could be your year.

Oh sure, like Sharon can hear your warning. Poor guy is lying there, thinking he is safe, but NOOOOO! you took him off your list.

I am getting an early start on my handbasket to hell this year. 😃

> [@Meeko](#):
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> So I guess the more “X is still alive?!” people you have, the better?

Only if they die. If they survive, it is just another year of “I thought he died years ago!” and no points.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/193 "2009-12-24T13:13:09Z")

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I had no idea that James Randi was a member on our boards.  
YAY and BOO! Now I have to pick someone else to give the gift of life.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/194 "2009-12-24T13:15:36Z")

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> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#):
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> I had no idea that James Randi was a member on our boards.  
> YAY and BOO! Now I have to pick someone else to give the gift of life.

See post 154.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/195 "2009-12-24T14:04:03Z")

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**Courtney Love** – widow of Kurt Cobain, known drug addict, recently lost custody of her daughter.  
**Elin Nordegren Woods** – soon-to-be-ex-wife of golfer Tiger Woods  
**Adam “Pacman” Jones** – ex-NFL cornerback, strip club devotee, enjoys making it rain  
**Horatio Sanz** – obligatory overweight SNL cast member  
**Amy Winehouse** – everyone on earth told her to go to rehab, she said no, no no  
**Barack Obama** – because there are still way too many racists out there, and the Secret Service apparently can’t keep reality TV wannabes away from him  
**Kim Jong Il** – crazy midget  
**Fidel Castro** – pretty sure he’s already dead  
**Osama bin Laden** – ditto  
**Lindsey Lohan** – prime for a drunk driving incident any day now  
**Elizabeth Edwards** – breast cancer is a bitch  
**Ron Santo** – according to Wikipedia, was given a life expectancy of 25 years at age 18. He was born in 1940. He’s totally due.  
**Fran Drescher** – Random pick of a semi-young person who had a serious cancer at one point

Alternates:  
**Kanye West** – obligatory hip-hop artist, douchebag  
**Mary-Kate Olsen** – would avoid making this list if she would eat a fucking sandwich every now and then

Cleaned-up:

Courtney Love  
Elin Nordegren Woods  
Adam “Pacman” Jones  
Horatio Sanz  
Amy Winehouse  
Barack Obama  
Kim Jong Il  
Fidel Castro  
Osama bin Laden  
Lindsey Lohan  
Elizabeth Edwards  
Ron Santo  
Fran Drescher

Alternates:  
Kanye West  
Mary-Kate Olsen

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**Author:** ![FlyingRamenMonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@FlyingRamenMonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingRamenMonster)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/196 "2009-12-24T14:06:02Z")

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Playing it safe:  
Fidel Castro  
Queen Elizabeth  
Steve Jobs  
Muhammad Ali  
Kim Jong-Il  
Hugh Hefner  
Nelson Mandela  
Roger Ebert

Aaaaand…  
Robin Williams  
Gilbert Gottfried  
Julie Andrews  
David Bowie  
David Hasselhoff

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**Author:** ![batsto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b2d939/32.png) [@batsto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/batsto)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/197 "2009-12-24T15:10:05Z")

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Posting this without reading anyone else’s picks (except the ones right above this, which I can’t help but see as I type). I don’t think I’ve ever scored a point in this game yet…

Tommy LaSorda  
Phyllis Diller  
Don Dokken  
John Rigas  
Tommy James  
Jamie Farr  
Burt Ward  
Diana Ross  
Linda Lavin  
Lily Tomlin  
Carol Burnett  
Ray Price  
Conrad Bain

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/198 "2009-12-24T15:15:27Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> **Horatio Sanz** – obligatory _overweight_ SNL cast member

[Not anymore.](http://www.zimbio.com/Horatio+Sanz/articles/3/Saturday+Night+Live+SNL+Horatio+Sanz+Loses)

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/199 "2009-12-24T16:51:02Z")

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> [@Randy\_Seltzer](#):
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> Invalid pick:  
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?u=55248](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)

According to the link, James Randi is a ‘guest’, not a ‘member’. So we need a ruling – is this an invalid pick or not?

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/200 "2009-12-24T16:55:40Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> According to the link, James Randi is a ‘guest’, not a ‘member’. So we need a ruling – is this an invalid pick or not?

I will allow it. See post 154.

I would not differentiate between guests and members - I don’t think that is the key distinction. I will apply a similar criterion as for the new “only famous for being sick” rule. If someone is only known for being a doper, then they are invalid picks. If someone independently famous chooses to become a doper, they are fair game.

Winning prizes for writing (deliberately) crap fiction does not make a person independently famous…

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