# The Celebrity Death Pool 2010

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2009, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574 "2009-12-01T11:44:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![El\_Perro\_Fumando](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e9c0ed/32.png) [@El\_Perro\_Fumando](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Perro_Fumando)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/341 "2009-12-31T15:47:25Z")

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I was tempted to retire after the banner year that was 2009, but I was convinced to continue competing. If it worked for Brett Favre so many times, I guess it’ll work for me.

Hamid Karzai - President of Afghanistan  
Courtney Love - “musician”, “actress”  
Pope Benedict XVI - Pope, recently tackled  
Rush Limbaugh - Big fat idiot. [[cite](http://www.amazon.com/Rush-Limbaugh-Big-Fat-Idiot/dp/0440508649)]  
Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi - Lockerbie Bomber  
Zelda Rubinstein - the organist in _Sixteen Candles_  
Urban Meyer - former(?) Florida Football head coach  
Kim Jong-Il - North Korea’s leading consumer of women’s sunglasses  
Bob Barker - beloved host of _The Price is Right_  
Fidel Castro - maybe he’s already dead?  
Richard Dawson - Host of many game shows and kisser of many women  
Nicolas Sarkozy - President of France  
Ariel Sharon - Former Israeli Prime Minister, in a coma for years

Alternates:  
Eli Wallach  
Nancy Reagan  
Barbara Bush (Former First Lady, not former First Daughter)  
Margaret Thatcher

Plain List  
Hamid Karzai  
Courtney Love  
Pope Benedict XVI  
Rush Limbaugh  
Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi  
Zelda Rubinstein  
Urban Meyer  
Kim Jong-Il  
Bob Barker  
Fidel Castro  
Richard Dawson  
Nicolas Sarkozy  
Ariel Sharon

Alternates:  
Eli Wallach  
Nancy Reagan  
Barbara Bush  
Margaret Thatcher

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/342 "2009-12-31T16:02:20Z")

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My only access is from someone else’s blackberry which is a very frustrating experience so will not post anything todau other than my list unless I find a proper PC.

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**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/343 "2009-12-31T16:13:54Z")

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Rush Limbaugh  
Muhammad Ali  
Stephen Hawking  
Aretha Franklin  
Brian Lenihan  
Orlando Thomas  
Courtney Love  
Amy Winehouse  
Peter Falk  
Pete Doherty  
George Jones  
Harry Knowles  
Zelda Rubinstein

Alt:  
Tom Sizemore  
Jeff Conaway

1. Rush Limbaugh – b. 12 January 1951.
2. Muhammad Ali – b. 17 January 1942.
3. Stephen Hawking – b. 8 January 1942.
4. Aretha Franklin – b. 25 March 1942.
5. Brian Lenihan – b. 21 May 1959.
6. Orlando Thomas – b. 21 October 1972.
7. Courtney Love – b. 9 July 1964.
8. Amy Winehouse – b. 14 September 1983.
9. Peter Falk – b. 16 September 1927.
10. Pete Doherty – b. 12 March 1979.
11. George Jones – b. 12 September 1931.
12. Harry Knowles – b. 11 December 1971.
13. Zelda Rubinstein - b. no earlier than 1933

Alternates (for the next 12 hours and change):  
Tom Sizemore – b. 29 September 1964. (Drugs, alcohol, domestic violence)  
Jeff Conaway – b. 5 October 1950. (Drugs, alcohol)

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/344 "2009-12-31T16:14:04Z")

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**Shirley** I skimmed through the list I’ve been keeping, which goes up to post #336, and if I judged names correctly the ratio of men to women is about 79% to 21%.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/345 "2009-12-31T16:31:03Z")

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Arright, fine – I generally don’t like making revisions, but Rush is just too tempting. Courtney Love, out – Limbaugh, in:

1. Randy Travis - Singer
2. Paul Allen - Bazillionaire
3. Kathryn Joosten - Actress
4. Ernie Harwell - Sportscaster
5. Teresa Heinz - Heiress, wife of John Kerry
6. Al Davis - Oakland Raiders Owner
7. John Madden - NFL Commentator
8. Rush Limbaugh, Dillhole
9. Roger Ebert - Film Critic
10. Urban Meyer - Football Coach
11. Abdel Baset al-Megrahi - Lockerbie Bomber
12. Zelda Rubinstein - Actress (and low-hanging fruit)
13. Reverend Donald Wildmon - Raging Douchebag

Alternates:

1. Harley Race - Wrestler
2. Muhammad Ali - Boxer

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Randy Travis  
Paul Allen  
Kathryn Joosten  
Ernie Harwell  
Teresa Heinz  
Al Davis  
John Madden  
Rush Limbaugh  
Roger Ebert  
Urban Meyer  
Abdel Baset al-Megrahi  
Zelda Rubinstein  
Reverend Donald Wildmon

Alternates:  
Harley Race  
Muhammad Ali

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/346 "2009-12-31T16:34:57Z")

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Fine, I’ll jump on the Rush bandwagon - if I’d chosen not to decide, I still would have made a choice. Art Donovan (who I’d never heard of until I used the NFL hall of fame site to fill out the team) is out, Rush is in.

William (Refrigerator) Perry  
Jerry Ball  
Tony Mandarich  
Art Shell  
Dwight Stephenson  
Dan Dierdorf  
David (Deacon) Jones  
Jim Burt  
Fred Smerlas  
Ed Lee (Too Tall) Jones  
Rush Limbaugh  
Bill Russell  
Muhammad Ali

All former NFL linemen except Russell, Ali, and Limbaugh

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/347 "2009-12-31T16:42:08Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
>
> I now present, drum roll please, my 2010 DPL:
> 
> Marty Allen  
> Barbara Bush  
> Jerry Lewis  
> Muhammed Ali  
> Fidel Castro  
> Bob Barker  
> Olivia de Haviland  
> Andrew Lloyd Weber  
> Abdelbaset Ali Mohammed Al Megrahi  
> Courtney Love  
> Queen Elizabeth II  
> Marcia Strassman  
> Dick Clark  
> alternates  
> Hugh Downs  
> Edwin Newman  
> Julie Newmar  
> Phyllis Diller

I am revising my list. It now reads:

Marty Allen  
Barbara Bush  
Jerry Lewis  
Muhammed Ali  
Fidel Castro  
Bob Barker  
Olivia de Haviland  
Andrew Lloyd Weber  
Zelda Rubenstein  
Rush Limbaugh  
Queen Elizabeth II  
Marcia Strassman  
Dick Clark

my alternates remain the same  
eta - again , to clarify, the Barbara Bush to which I refer is the former FL, wife of GHWB

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/348 "2009-12-31T17:04:44Z")

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Updated list

Jumping on the Rush/Zelda bandwagons, bumping Darlene Cates and Elizabeth Edwards to the alternates

Rush Limbaugh  
Zelda Rubinstein  
Ronnie Biggs  
Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Kim Jong-il  
Roger Ebert  
Abdelbaset Ali Mohammed Al Megrahi  
Doug Fieger  
Seve Ballesteros  
Maura Tierney  
Jason Becker  
Orlando Thomas  
Pete Doherty

Alternates:  
Elizabeth Edwards  
Darlene Cates  
Lawrence Eagleburger

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/349 "2009-12-31T17:06:50Z")

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Poor Amarone, everyone including me is jumping on the Zelda Rubinstein bandwagon. Please add her and remove Tiger Woods from my list. The revised list is:

Amy Winehouse  
Dick Cheney  
Kirk Douglas  
Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Elizabeth Edwards  
Orlando Thomas  
Dennis Hopper  
Don Imus  
Zelda Rubinstein  
Johnny Hallyday  
Maura Tierney  
Bryant Gumbel  
Shane MacGowan

Alternates:  
Britney Spears  
Keith Richard  
David Hasselhoff

Please note that I also corrected the spelling of Shane MacGowan.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/350 "2009-12-31T17:07:51Z")

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1. Barack Hussein Obama- POTUS
2. Michelle Obama- FLOTUS
3. Bryant Gumbel-Sportscaster
4. Ron Springs- Former NFLer
5. Rush Limbaugh-Radio Host
6. Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi-terrorist
7. Ronnie James Dio-Musician
8. Orlando Thomas- Former NFLer
9. Michael Crabtree- Greedy 49er
10. David Hasselhoff-Actor
11. Dennis Hopper- Actor
12. Andrew Lloyd Webber-Composer
13. Zelda Rubinstein

alternates  
Ben Stiller- actor  
Ian Brady-Serial killer  
Barack Hussein Obama  
Michelle Obama  
Bryant Gumbel  
Ron Springs  
Rush Limbaugh  
Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi  
Ronnie James Dio  
Orlando Thomas  
Michael Crabtree  
David Hasselhoff  
Dennis Hopper  
Andrew Lloyd Webber  
Zelda Rubinstein

alternate-  
Ben Stiller  
Ian Brady

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/351 "2009-12-31T17:25:00Z")

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[Vasily Aleksanyan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Aleksanyan) enemy of Putin  
[Chi Cheng](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Cheng_(musician)) deftones bassist  
[Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrah](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdel_Basset_Ali_al-Megrahi) Lockerbie bomber  
[Orlando Thomas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Thomas) Former NFL  
[Steve Smith](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Smith_(running_back)) Former NFL  
[Mark Mangino](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Mangino) Kansas U football coach.  
[John Wesley “Johnny Lam” Jones](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wesley_Jones) Former NFL  
[Douglas Fieger](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Fieger), singer for the Knack  
[Moussa Dadis Camara](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moussa_Dadis_Camara) President of Guinea.  
[Leonard Peltier](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Peltier) American Indian.  
[Grizz Chapman](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizz_Chapman) 30 Rock Actor.  
[Eleanor Mondale](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Mondale) VP daughter/DJ/VJ

Alternatives:  
[Steve Jobs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_jobs) Applehead man  
[Ayaan Hirsi Ali](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali#_note-0) Dutch feminist.  
[Roger Ebert](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ebert) film critic

Vasily Aleksanyan  
Chi Cheng  
Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrah  
Orlando Thomas  
Steve Smith  
Mark Mangino  
John Wesley “Johnny Lam” Jones  
Douglas Fieger  
Steve Jobs  
Moussa Dadis Camara  
Leonard Peltier  
Grizz Chapman  
Eleanor Mondale

Alts:  
Ayaan Hirsi Ali  
Roger Ebert

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/352 "2009-12-31T17:48:38Z")

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Wanna take any side bets that everyone jumping on the Zelda bandwagon causes her to snuff it sometime today?

If that happens, there will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth throughout Doperland.

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/353 "2009-12-31T17:49:58Z")

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And a few of us who will point, laugh and bask in our schadenfreude. 😉

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**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/354 "2009-12-31T17:51:33Z")

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Most of us will be happy in the fact that we loaded a few alts in there, so even if we don’t get guaranteed points, we’ll still have a shot.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/355 "2009-12-31T18:04:55Z")

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> [@OtakuLoki](#):
>
> And a few of us who will point, laugh and bask in our schadenfreude. 😉

in lovely two part harmony, no less

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**Author:** ![tofergregg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tofergregg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofergregg)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/356 "2009-12-31T18:16:10Z")

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Did anyone have Zelda on the list before the announcement about her being taken off life support? If she kicks the bucket in the next couple of days, I’d put an asterisk by the ones who jumped on the bandwagon, and I’d even suggest picking an alternate “opening kickoff” winner (encroachment on the play).

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**Author:** ![gwendee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gwendee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gwendee)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/357 "2009-12-31T18:16:16Z")

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Heavens, I nearly forgot!

Steven Tyler  
Gavin McLeod  
Hal Holbrook  
Eli Wallach  
Jack Welch  
Gene Wilder  
Peter Fonda  
Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh  
Warren Beatty  
Pelé  
Juan Carlos I of Spain  
Charley Pride  
Carol Burnett

Orrin Hatch  
Joe Namath  
Ed Koch

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/358 "2009-12-31T18:18:54Z")

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Orlando Thomas - Football Player  
Steve Smith - Football Player August 30, 1964  
Stefano Borgonovo - Soccer Player  
Scott LeDoux - retired boxer, politician  
Pete Doherty - druggie  
Seve Ballasteros - PGA Golfer  
Sara Payne - same one everyone else listed  
Zelda Rubenstein - hold out for a few more hours  
Bryant Gumble - TV host  
Steven Jobs - Apple CEO  
Ethan Zohn - winner of Survivor Africa  
Elanor Mondale - TV/Radio host, daughter of former VP  
John Hartson - Wales footballer

Alternates:  
Kim Jong Il - Korean Military Leader  
Peter Falk  
Paul Gascoigne - English Soccer Player

Clean List:  
Orlando Thomas  
Steve Smith  
Stefano Borgonovo  
Scott LeDoux  
Peter Doherty  
Seve Ballasteros  
Sara Payne  
Zelda Rubenstein  
Bryant Gumble  
Steven Jobs  
Ethan Zohn  
Elanor Mondale  
Josh Hartson

Kim Jong Il  
Peter Falk  
Paul Gascoigne

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/359 "2009-12-31T18:20:23Z")

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quick questions for our leader, Amarone:

1. although I am on the bandwagon, is Sara Payne “famous enough” under the new rules?
2. do you use any special database or system to track the Pool throughout the year?

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2010/519574/360 "2009-12-31T18:32:25Z")

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Gary Coleman  
Arty Lange  
Gary Busey  
Fidel Castro  
Verne Troyer  
Mary-Kate Olson  
Courtney Love  
Ginger Baker  
Mel Gibson  
Pamela Anderson  
Steve Jobs  
Joe Walsh  
Caloline Kennedy

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