# The Celebrity Death Pool 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2010, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523 "2010-12-01T09:16:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 11

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/201 "2010-12-11T03:29:38Z")

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Fidel Castro  
Raul Castro  
Kim Jong-Il  
Than Shwe  
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  
Robert Mugabe  
Jean Kennedy Smith  
Sargent Shriver  
Ethel Skakel  
Noam Chomsky  
James Carter  
Walter Mondale  
Harry F Byrd Jr.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/202 "2010-12-11T03:36:04Z")

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A revised, hopeful list:

Fidel Castro  
Raul Castro  
Kim Jong-Il  
Than Shwe  
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  
Robert Mugabe  
Julian Assange  
Charles Manson  
Omar al-Bashir  
Fred Phelps  
Bradley Manning  
Ayman al-Zawahiri  
Mohammed Omar

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/203 "2010-12-11T03:59:15Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> Winehouse?

Yep, sorry.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/204 "2010-12-11T18:45:30Z")

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It’s probably nothing but I thought I would offer this little tidbit in the morbid spirit of the game.

A Boston radio host has a popular Death Pool segment (I believe it’s sponsored by a local funeral home), and the latest episode aired on Friday, thanks to Elizabeth Edwards.

Anyway, a conversation with one of the callers went roughly like this:

CALLER: At the risk of being accused of having inside information, I’d like to submit Nicolas Cage.

HOST: Really?! Do you actually have inside information.

CALLER: Um. I don’t remember, heh heh.

Again, it’s probably nothing but I have to admit that I found the exchange very curious. Nicolas Cage? He’s only in his late-40s, right? Damn, that would be some sweet points…I mean, God, that would be tragic.

So if anyone wants to take a wild chance with his or her SMDB Celebrity Death Pool picks, I figured I’d pass along the information. I’d also like to ask: _are_ there any rumors out there about Cage?

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/205 "2010-12-11T19:48:39Z")

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sounds more like a stalker planning a kill to me

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/206 "2010-12-11T19:56:46Z")

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If there is anything on a Nicolas Cage illness/death rumor, it’s buried more deeply in Google than I’m willing to search.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/207 "2010-12-11T21:22:56Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> sounds more like a stalker planning a kill to me

Yeah, I can see how it _reads_ like that, but it certainly didn’t _sound_ like that, if you know what I mean. Obviously, anyone can say anything about anybody during an anonymous radio show phone call, but this guy (who said he lived on Martha’s Vineyard, by the way) really sounded like someone who knew that some big news was about to break.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/208 "2010-12-11T21:35:24Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Yeah, I can see how it _reads_ like that, but it certainly didn’t _sound_ like that, if you know what I mean. Obviously, anyone can say anything about anybody during an anonymous radio show phone call, but this guy (who said he lived on Martha’s Vineyard, by the way) really sounded like someone who knew that some big news was about to break.

Either that, or someone trying to bluff everyone into jumping on a Nic Cage bandwagon so they waste a spot on their list.

'Cause some folks take their death pools _way_ too seriously.

None of us, of course.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/209 "2010-12-11T23:01:38Z")

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Amarone:  
Are you going to validate whether or not a pick is celebratory enough and let us select another, or disqualify suspicious picks after January 1?

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/210 "2010-12-12T13:30:47Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Amarone:  
> Are you going to validate whether or not a pick is celebratory enough and let us select another, or disqualify suspicious picks after January 1?

There is no concept of “celebratory enough”. There are several specific exclusions in the rules (under 18 etc.) but outside that you can choose anyone. There are some posters, myself included, who make their own decision as to whether someone is a celebrity, but they don’t have to.

As for disqualifications, I don’t pay much attention to the picks as they are made. There were 846 different celebrities in 2010, a good number of which I have never heard of - I am certainly not going to vet them all. I would only notice a suspicious pick later on should that person die and be brought to our attention.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/211 "2010-12-12T13:46:27Z")

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Not to nitpick too keenly, but … wasn’t there a Can’t Be Famous Just For Being Sick rule?

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/212 "2010-12-12T13:55:53Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Not to nitpick too keenly, but … wasn’t there a Can’t Be Famous Just For Being Sick rule?

Yes - that is one of the exclusions I referred to.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/213 "2010-12-12T18:04:26Z")

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I don’t have a theme. But with one exception all of the following would get me at least twenty points if they shuffle off this mortal coil on 1/11/11. And with one exception they are, as of today, unique picks. With one exception I don’t want to see ANY of them dead. With one exception I’ve heard no rumors of illness for any of my picks. The exceptions are all the same person, heh, heh.

Fred Phelps hatemonger   
Leslie Caron French actress   
Haya Harareet Israeli actress   
Desmond Tutu South African cleric   
Debra Paget actress   
Tina Louise actress   
Jean M. Auel author   
Colleen McCullough author   
Brian Blessed actor   
Angel Cordero jockey   
Tom Clancy author   
Spider Robinson author   
Lindsey Davis author

Clean list:

Fred Phelps  
Leslie Caron  
Haya Harareet  
Desmond Tutu  
Debra Paget  
Tina Louise  
Jean M. Auel  
Colleen McCullough  
Brian Blessed  
Angel Cordero  
Tom Clancy  
Spider Robinson  
Lindsey Davis

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/214 "2010-12-12T18:10:52Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> I don’t have a theme. But with one exception all of the following would get me at least twenty points if they shuffle off this mortal coil on 1/11/11. And with one exception they are, as of today, unique picks. With one exception I don’t want to see ANY of them dead. With one exception I’ve heard no rumors of illness for any of my picks. …

It sounds as if your theme is “Celebrities expected to live through 2011”

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/215 "2010-12-12T18:38:00Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> It sounds as if your theme is “Celebrities expected to live through 2011”

Well, the most picks I’ve ever had die on me was three, so it’s not like I have a talent for choosing. That was when I waited until 12/31 to post my list, and used the top twelve vote getters, plus one other.

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**Author:** ![BoilerUp1975](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@BoilerUp1975](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoilerUp1975)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/216 "2010-12-13T02:11:01Z")

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Betty White  
Dick Clark  
Amy Winehouse  
Michael Douglas  
Abe Vigoda  
Nancy Reagan  
Vince Young  
Nick Hogan  
Bob Barker  
John Glenn  
Eddie Van Halen  
George Bush Sr.  
Scott Steiner

Alternates:  
Kirk Douglas  
Jack Lalanne

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/217 "2010-12-13T14:55:55Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> It’s probably nothing but I thought I would offer this little tidbit in the morbid spirit of the game.
> 
> A Boston radio host has a popular Death Pool segment (I believe it’s sponsored by a local funeral home), and the latest episode aired on Friday, thanks to Elizabeth Edwards.
> 
> Anyway, a conversation with one of the callers went roughly like this:
> 
> CALLER: At the risk of being accused of having inside information, I’d like to submit Nicolas Cage.
> 
> HOST: Really?! Do you actually have inside information.
> 
> CALLER: Um. I don’t remember, heh heh.
> 
> Again, it’s probably nothing but I have to admit that I found the exchange very curious. Nicolas Cage? He’s only in his late-40s, right? Damn, that would be some sweet points…I mean, God, that would be tragic.
> 
> So if anyone wants to take a wild chance with his or her SMDB Celebrity Death Pool picks, I figured I’d pass along the information. I’d also like to ask: _are_ there any rumors out there about Cage?

He has a perchant for rough gay sex.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/218 "2010-12-14T02:00:17Z")

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**Primaries**

Aretha Franklin  
Michael Douglas  
Amy Winehouse  
Abe Vigoda  
Nancy Reagan  
Kim Jong-Il  
Fred Phelps  
Ariel Sharon  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Dick Cheney  
Margaret Thatcher  
Steve Ballestoros  
Courtney Love

**Alternates**

Lindsay Lohan  
Steve Jobs  
Andy Rooney

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/219 "2010-12-14T02:16:32Z")

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> [@Duckster](#):
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> Steve Ballestoros

Steve?

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/220 "2010-12-14T02:47:08Z")

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Here is my 2011 list, eerily similar to every one of my lists since 2006… 😉

Ariel Sharon  
James Garner  
Natalie Cole  
Peter O’Toole  
Aretha Franklin  
Butch Patrick  
Kirk Douglas  
Margaret Thatcher  
Ruth Bader Ginsberg  
Orlando Thomas  
Annette Funicello  
Stephen Hawking  
Bob Feller  
Ariel Sharon, former Israeli Prime Minister, permanent vegetative state  
James Garner, actor, cigarettes & red meat  
Natalie Cole, singer, hep C  
Peter O’Toole, actor, lifestyle choices  
Aretha Franklin, the Queen of Soul, cancer  
Butch Patrick, child actor (Eddie Munster), lifestyle choices  
Kirk Douglas, actor, old age  
Margaret Thatcher, politician, old age  
Ruth Bader Ginsberg, former US Supreme Court justice, cancer  
Orlando Thomas, former NFL player, ALS  
Annette Funicello, Disney Mouseketeer, various ailments  
Stephen Hawking, physicist, ALS  
Bob Feller, noted former MLB player, leukemia  
Alternate #1- Courtney Love  
Alternate #2- Lindsay Lohan

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