# The Celebrity Death Pool 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2010, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523 "2010-12-01T09:16:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2583 "2011-12-19T03:24:54Z")

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> **[North Korean leader Kim Jong-il dies 'of heart attack'](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16239693)**
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> North Korean leader Kim Jong-il dies after a heart attack, state media say, sparking off scenes of grief in the streets of the capital.

Kim Jong-Il has died.

FUCK. I just put him on my 2012 list today.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2584 "2011-12-19T03:26:44Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> [Kim Jong Il](http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/12/18/world/asia/AP-AS-Korea-Kim-Jong-Il.html?_r=1)
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> I had him and Hitchens, both my only deaths of the year.

I hope that ends up being good news for US-NoKorea relations.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2585 "2011-12-19T03:29:20Z")

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[The style maven that he was, he was still a nutter.](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-19/kim-jong-il-north-korea-s-dear-leader-dictator-dead-at-70-yonhap-says.html)

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2586 "2011-12-19T03:58:48Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> [Kim Jong Il](http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/12/18/world/asia/AP-AS-Korea-Kim-Jong-Il.html?_r=1)

The most-voted-for death of the year - 35 people had him.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2587 "2011-12-19T04:03:51Z")

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Yep, I was one of them! Two deaths in three days for me, although I am sad about Hitchens but he was really suffering.

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**Author:** ![Tamex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Tamex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamex)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2588 "2011-12-19T04:09:56Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> [North Korean leader Kim Jong-il dies 'of heart attack' - BBC News](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16239693)
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> Kim Jong-Il has died.
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> FUCK. I just put him on my 2012 list today.

Sweet! I mean, I’m so sorry–wait a minute, no, I’m not! 31 points for me.

Your link invites me to comment if I’m in North Korea. I had the impression that the Internet was not such a big thing over there.

I’m putting together next year’s list. Any other evil dictators you’d like me to put on there?

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2589 "2011-12-19T04:10:11Z")

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I finally got some points

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**Author:** ![Bewildebeest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@Bewildebeest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bewildebeest)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2590 "2011-12-19T04:29:00Z")

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Ditto.

According to wiki, he was born 16 February 1941, an then again a year later on 16 February 1942. How are we scoring this?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2591 "2011-12-19T04:29:13Z")

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I had the bastard Kim Jon Il too, so I \*\*still \*\*have the late hit trophy. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2592 "2011-12-19T04:30:14Z")

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Are we saying he was 69 or 70? I believe his age is in dispute.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2593 "2011-12-19T04:38:40Z")

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Crap.  
I already lost the Top Ten.  
Crap.

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**Author:** ![Critical\_Mass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Critical\_Mass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical_Mass)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2594 "2011-12-19T04:41:23Z")

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> [@](#):
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> N. Korean leader Kim Jong-Il died of hard work and fatigue on Dec. 17, 2011, North Korea’s official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) announced on Dec. 19, 2011

[http://theseoultimes.com/ST/index.html](http://theseoultimes.com/ST/index.html)

He died of hard work and fatigue.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2595 "2011-12-19T04:53:31Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Are we saying he was 69 or 70? I believe his age is in dispute.

So is his [golf score](http://www.rsronline.com/blog/8-strategy/9-play-golf-like-kim-jong-il.html).

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2596 "2011-12-19T04:54:04Z")

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> [@Critical\_Mass](#):
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> [http://theseoultimes.com/ST/index.html](http://theseoultimes.com/ST/index.html)
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> He died of hard work and fatigue.

Like French President Felix Faure?

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**Author:** ![The\_Vorlon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@The\_Vorlon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Vorlon)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2597 "2011-12-19T05:07:12Z")

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Another bat has returned to Hell

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2598 "2011-12-19T05:38:13Z")

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Dear Leader means I don’t go out with a Goose Egg!

Last year I had his son, and the head of the military that wasn’t his son, figuring to cover both my bases. Maybe I’ll dig those names up again…

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**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2599 "2011-12-19T05:43:48Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Are we saying he was 69 or 70? I believe his age is in dispute.

I think the 1941 date is according to Soviet records, which I would tend to trust more than the North Korean version (which also claims something about double rainbows on a mountaintop).

This guy finally got me on the board in two death pools. Woot woot.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2600 "2011-12-19T10:05:58Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> The most-voted-for death of the year - 35 people had him.

Figured this would be up there. Figured this would help

Other people. ☹

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2601 "2011-12-19T10:24:43Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> 1. If we are uncertain about the celebrity’s age at death, we will go by the higher age (lower score).

This is from the OP

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2602 "2011-12-19T10:34:19Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> This is from the OP

Do you think we will get to see his body?  
Frankly, I begin to wonder if this actually happened. “Died on a train” just seems to in a word, neat. And no, I am not commenting on how “cool” that would be.

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