# The Celebrity Death Pool 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2010, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523 "2010-12-01T09:16:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2623 "2011-12-20T19:26:36Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> I thought that we were past the era of not knowing when someone was born. It’s one of those moments where I thought “yeah, but when will that happen?”

In Kim’s case it was political. The objective evidence is that he was born in 1941. But Kim Il-sung and family were still living in the Soviet Union in 1941. It wouldn’t due to have the future Beloved Leader born in a foreign country. So the official North Korean records show that Kim Jong-il was born in 1942 after the family had supposedly returned to Korea.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2624 "2011-12-20T20:14:25Z")

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> [@Tamex](#):
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> Every news story I have read lists his age as 69; only Wikipedia has raised the possibility that he was actually 70.

Others have already posted other cites. I would not have gone with Wikipedia alone. I checked a few major news sources and decided there was sufficient evidence of uncertainty when the New York Times stated “The North has indicated he was 69 years old, but scholars have said he could have been a year older.”

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**Author:** ![Tamex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Tamex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamex)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2625 "2011-12-21T03:29:40Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> Others have already posted other cites. I would not have gone with Wikipedia alone. I checked a few major news sources and decided there was sufficient evidence of uncertainty when the New York Times stated “The North has indicated he was 69 years old, but scholars have said he could have been a year older.”

When I googled it, all I found saying he was 70 was Wikipedia and sites that mirror Wikipedia such as [answers.com](http://answers.com). However, others were more successful in finding other cites, and I will accept the ruling. Not that I had much choice :).

There was supposedly a double rainbow over a sacred mountain in North Korea on the day Kim was born. Do you mean that didn’t really happen? 😉

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2626 "2011-12-21T11:57:40Z")

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> [@Tamex](#):
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> When I googled it, all I found saying he was 70 was Wikipedia and sites that mirror Wikipedia such as [answers.com](http://answers.com). However, others were more successful in finding other cites, and I will accept the ruling. Not that I had much choice :).
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> There was supposedly a double rainbow over a sacred mountain in North Korea on the day Kim was born. Do you mean that didn’t really happen? 😉

He was born during a skittles commercial?

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2627 "2011-12-21T14:39:35Z")

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> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#):
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> He was born during a skittles commercial?

No, No, No. His birth _inspired_ the creation of Skittles.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2628 "2011-12-23T02:26:03Z")

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[LPGA founder Bettye Danoff](http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golftalkcentral/lpga-founder-danoff-passes-away/) passed away Thursday in Texas at the age of 88.

Known as "Mighty Mite,” the 5-foot-2 Texan was one of the Ladies Professional Golf Association’s 13 founders in 1950.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2629 "2011-12-23T14:43:49Z")

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[James Ramseur](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/james-ramseur-victim-1984-bernie-goetz-subway-shooting-found-dead-bronx-hotel-article-1.995834?localLinksEnabled=false), found dead 27 years to the day after he was shot by Bernard Goetz. Either accidentally overdose or suicide.

WARNING: Total ickiness in spoiler box

Ramseur served 25 years for taking a pregnant woman up to a rooftop and raping her with a gun. She had to have about 100 stitches to repair the damage

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2630 "2011-12-23T21:04:17Z")

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Prince Phillip in the hospital [after suffering chest pains.](http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45779248/ns/today-today_people/)

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**Author:** ![Sarabellum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarabellum/32/3492_2.png) [@Sarabellum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarabellum)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2631 "2011-12-23T21:55:35Z")

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Prince Philip is on my 2012 list… hang in there for at least 8 more days, buddy! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2632 "2011-12-24T01:03:00Z")

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If I put Phil on my list for 12, he will certainly cock up his toes in 11.

I Guarantee it.

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**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2633 "2011-12-24T01:17:45Z")

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No, no, don’t do it! :eek: I have him on my '12 list!

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2634 "2011-12-24T01:51:45Z")

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The Duke had six people choose him for 2011, and so far the 2012 list has him selected four times. So the damage is already done.

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2635 "2011-12-24T02:22:10Z")

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Ol’ Phil had a stent put in, as reported on Yahoo news. I’m too lazy to linky.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2636 "2011-12-24T02:50:19Z")

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Who, or what, is “Ol’ Phil”?

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2637 "2011-12-24T02:58:39Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Who, or what, is “Ol’ Phil”?

All you have to do is read back a few posts.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2638 "2011-12-24T03:20:35Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> All you have to do is read back a few posts.

I, too, am lazy.  
Thanks, anyway. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Uncle\_Goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Goat)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2639 "2011-12-26T14:01:44Z")

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Five days left in the year, thirteen people still on my list.  
Come on Grim Reaper! You can do it! Go Death Go!

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2640 "2011-12-26T17:29:47Z")

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Like I’ve said, I had one on 12/27 a while back. There’s still time!

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**Author:** ![Critical\_Mass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Critical\_Mass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical_Mass)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2641 "2011-12-28T06:07:53Z")

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Tarzan’s [Cheetah.](http://www.sacbee.com/2011/12/27/4148374/cheetah-the-chimp-from-1930s-tarzan.html) Age 80.

I had no idea chimpanzees could live that long.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/2642 "2011-12-28T17:21:05Z")

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Radio talk show host [Lynn Samuels](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/27/nyregion/lynn-samuels-radio-talk-show-host-dies-at-69.html) dead at 69. Apparently she lived alone and died of a heart attack.

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