# The Celebrity Death Pool 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2010, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523 "2010-12-01T09:16:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/261 "2010-12-20T12:41:12Z")

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> [@Carlos\_Spicy\_Weiner](#):
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> No theme just a bunch of some possible worm food for 2011
> 
> 1. John Larroquette
> 2. Betty White
> 3. David Arquette
> 4. Owen Wilson
> 5. Linsey Lohan
> 6. James Earl Jones
> 7. T. I. ( rap artist )
> 8. Michael Douglas
> 9. Michael Madsen
> 10. Jimmy Carter ( former Pres )
> 11. Mary Kate Olsen
> 12. Judy Dench
> 13. Osama Bin Laden

Please post again without the numbers.

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**Author:** ![J-P\_L](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/j-p_l/32/3156_2.png) [@J-P\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/J-P_L)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/262 "2010-12-20T16:43:00Z")

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My list for 2011  
Aretha Franklin  
Ariel Sharon  
Bob Barker  
Courtney Love  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Ernest Borgnine  
Fidel Castro  
Hugh Hefner  
Kirk Douglas  
Margaret Thatcher  
Michael Douglas  
Red Farmer  
Zsa Zsa Gabor

Alternates:  
Mickey Rooney  
David Hasselhoff  
Steven Tyler

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/263 "2010-12-21T00:27:51Z")

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Celebrity Death Pool 2011.  
This year’s contestants are:

Carl Kassel  
Aretha Franklin  
Michaek Dokes  
Derryn Hinch  
Susie Edwards  
Charlie Kleinman  
Mike Heimerdinger  
Andy Whitfield  
Charlie Louvin  
Barack Obama  
Merle Haggard  
Bryant Gumbel  
Danny Buchanan  
Carl Kassel, NPR announcer, quit the news and just does “Wait, Wait” now.  
Aretha Franklin, singer  
Michaek Dokes, boxer  
Derryn Hinch, Australian Shock Jock  
Susie Edwards, former WAFF reporter, WWL journalist.  
Charlie Kleinman, Pediatric cardiologist, recipient of 17 year old Marc Dawson’s heart.  
Mike Heimerdinger, Titans Offensive Coach  
Andy Whitfield, Australian Actor  
Charlie Louvin, Country Music singer  
Barack Obama, POTUS, I wonder if the Secret Service will show up?  
Merle Haggard, another C&W singer  
Bryant Gumbel, sports caster.  
Danny Buchanan, former General Secretary of Jamaica.

Folks I didn’t pick, who will therefore probably cash in their chips 1 January:

\*Kathryn Joosten, Mrs. Landingham, I can’t bear to pick her.  
\*Anne Francis, actress in _The Forbidden Planet_, can’t bear to pick her after the nude swimming scene.

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**Author:** ![Randy\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ee7513/32.png) [@Randy\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randy_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/264 "2010-12-21T00:43:52Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Charlie Kleinman, Pediatric cardiologist, recipient of 17 year old Marc Dawson’s heart

Doesn’t this violate rule 3(g)?

> [@rules](#):
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> 1. Valid picks are not:  
> […]  
> g. famous solely as a result of their illness or associated actions/events.

From what I can tell, Kleinman is only famous because NPR did a [story](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123065247) about a guy who was diagnosed with liver cancer soon after getting a heart transplant.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/265 "2010-12-21T00:49:45Z")

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Amarone, would you please rule on this?  
Thanks!

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/266 "2010-12-21T01:01:48Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Amarone, would you please rule on this?  
> Thanks!

Sorry, but in my view is does contravene the “only famous for their illness” rule.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/267 "2010-12-21T01:04:31Z")

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And I can’t pick Randy.  
Damn.  
🙂  
Okay, back to channeling the Angel of Death…

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**Author:** ![Andrew\_21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bcef8e/32.png) [@Andrew\_21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andrew_21)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/268 "2010-12-21T01:29:27Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Michaek Dokes, boxer

Michael Dokes?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/269 "2010-12-21T01:32:21Z")

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> [@Andrew\_21](#):
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> Michael Dokes?

Yes, thanks. 🙂

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**Author:** ![missred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missred/32/14096_2.png) [@missred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missred)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/270 "2010-12-21T04:06:21Z")

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Main list:

Billy Graham  
Fidel Castro  
Kim Jong-il  
Muhammad Ali  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Nancy Reagan  
Harry Morgan  
Steve Jobs  
Aretha Franklin  
Jerry Lee Lewis

Alternates:

Dick Cheney  
Rush Limbaugh  
Dick Clark

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**Author:** ![Carlos\_Spicy\_Weiner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@Carlos\_Spicy\_Weiner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carlos_Spicy_Weiner)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/271 "2010-12-21T07:36:19Z")

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John Larroquette  
Betty White  
David Arquette  
Owen Wilson  
Linsey Lohan  
James Earl Jones  
T. I. ( rap artist )  
Michael Douglas  
Billy Graham  
Jimmy Carter ( former Pres )  
Mary Kate Olsen  
Corey Haim  
Osama Bin Laden

had to change some of my line up and sorry about the numbers ( wasnt in the rules ) but ill play nice .

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/272 "2010-12-21T11:23:08Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> **List Format:**
> 
> I have a spreadsheet that allows me to post updated standings quickly and produce various other statistics. The pain is “loading” the data into the sheet. I can do each list in a single cut and paste if you use the following format and guidelines: present a plain, unnumbered list that contains just the celebrities’ most commonly used names (e.g. use “Al Gore”, not “Albert Gore”), correctly spelled. If anyone is known by initials, include a period and a space after each. So as an example, it would be:
> 
> O. J. Simpson  
> Ronnie Biggs  
> Fidel Castro  
> George W. Bush  
> Muhammad Ali  
> Lindsay Lohan  
> Elizabeth Taylor  
> Abe Vigoda  
> Kirk Douglas  
> Clint Eastwood  
> Ariel Sharon  
> Dick Cheney  
> Bill Gates
> 
> However, I know that many of you like to include commentary within your lists, such as:
> 
> George “the younger” Bush  
> Yogi Berra, baseballer/malaproper, because it ain’t over till it’s over.
> 
> That is fine - it adds to the entertainment. But if you do that, please also include the list again in plain format for me to copy & paste.

**Carlos** , perhaps you missed the above section of the OP that requested a plain format list.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/273 "2010-12-21T12:07:22Z")

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> [@missred](#):
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> Main list:
> 
> Billy Graham  
> Fidel Castro  
> Kim Jong-il  
> Muhammad Ali  
> Elizabeth Taylor  
> Nancy Reagan  
> Harry Morgan  
> Steve Jobs  
> Aretha Franklin  
> Jerry Lee Lewis
> 
> Alternates:
> 
> Dick Cheney  
> Rush Limbaugh  
> Dick Clark

You need 13, not 10. I will use all your alternates to complete your list.

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**Author:** ![missred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missred/32/14096_2.png) [@missred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missred)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/274 "2010-12-22T00:06:47Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> You need 13, not 10. I will use all your alternates to complete your list.

Sorry. :smack:

Here is my revised list:

Billy Graham  
Fidel Castro  
Kim Jong-il  
Muhammad Ali  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Nancy Reagan  
Harry Morgan  
Steve Jobs  
Aretha Franklin  
Jerry Lee Lewis  
Jerry Lewis  
Hugh Hefner  
Queen Elizabeth II

Alternates:

Dick Cheney  
Rush Limbaugh’  
Dick Clark

Would it be wrong of me to hope that I get on the board before December in 2011? 😛

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/275 "2010-12-22T01:18:58Z")

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We list thirteen with no alternates, do we not?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/276 "2010-12-22T01:28:06Z")

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> [@missred](#):
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> Would it be wrong of me to hope that I get on the board before December in 2011? 😛

You picked the Immortal Hall of Fame. What do you expect?

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/277 "2010-12-22T02:40:27Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> We list thirteen with no alternates, do we not?

13 with up to 3 alternates

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/278 "2010-12-22T03:40:24Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> 13 with up to 3 alternates

There’s no limit on alternates:

> [@](#):
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> You may submit one or more “alternates” with your list in the event that one of your picks dies during December 2010, or submit an alternate after the death of the original pick, as long as this is posted by Dec 31, 2010.

But as the vast majority of players do not submit a list in which three die over the whole year, let alone between submission and Jan 1, there is little point in submitting more than a couple.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/279 "2010-12-22T04:26:20Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> But as the vast majority of players do not submit a list in which three die over the whole year, let alone between submission and Jan 1, there is little point in submitting more than a couple.

Oh fie, Sir. Shame on you!  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Carlos\_Spicy\_Weiner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@Carlos\_Spicy\_Weiner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carlos_Spicy_Weiner)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/280 "2010-12-22T06:04:02Z")

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shit shit shit … so THATS what unnumbered means , ok then . Do i need to re-re submit my picks minus commentary ?

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