# The Celebrity Death Pool 2011

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2010, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523 "2010-12-01T09:16:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cadolphin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c37758/32.png) [@cadolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cadolphin)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/361 "2010-12-29T02:16:09Z")

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My annual post which will insure these people will survive yet another year…  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Kirk Douglas  
Fats Domino  
Betty Ford  
Nancy Reagan  
Jack Klugman  
Seve Ballesteros  
Harry Morgan  
Annette Funicello  
Kim Jong Il  
Fidel Castro  
Richard Kiel  
Gordon Murray

Alts:  
Danny Bonaduce  
Greg Louganis

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**Author:** ![Bewildebeest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@Bewildebeest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bewildebeest)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/362 "2010-12-29T02:17:19Z")

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1. Macaulay Culkin
2. John Travolta
3. Kim Jong Il
4. Paris Hilton
5. Steve Martin
6. Nanette Fabray
7. Billie Jean King
8. Tim Curry
9. Dan Rather
10. Bryant Charles Gumbel
11. Lindsay Lohan
12. Peter Tork
13. Harrison Ford

Alternates:

1. Tom Cruise
2. Janet Jackson
3. Carrie Fisher

Hasn’t Elizabeth Taylor died at least twice a year since the early eighties?  
Macaulay Culkin  
John Travolta  
Kim Jong Il  
Paris Hilton  
Steve Martin  
Nanette Fabray  
Billie Jean King  
Tim Curry  
Dan Rather  
Bryant Charles Gumbel  
Lindsay Lohan  
Peter Tork  
Harrison Ford

Alternates:  
Tom Cruise  
Janet Jackson  
Carrie Fisher

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**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/363 "2010-12-29T02:18:59Z")

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I did so well in 2010 I see no reason to make any changes. I have just guaranteed another year of life for these folks.

John Astin  
Yogi Berra  
Ronnie Biggs  
Fidel Castro  
Dick Clark  
Chris Economacki  
Aretha Franklin  
Larry Hagman  
Nancy Reagen  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Mike Wallace  
Amy Winehouse  
Zakk Wylde  
Note: Mike Wallace is the old fart from 60 Minutes, not the race car driver.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/364 "2010-12-29T02:42:57Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Well, yes, but will Amarone buy that?  
> I mean, being British and all.  
> 🙂

Well, it was the Scots that let him go and they generally don’t like to be called British anyway. But I’m a conspiracy theorist on this one - I think he was let go with the full knowledge/approval of the US and British governments to avoid an uncomfortable appeal which, for example, would disclose things like the Maltese shop owner failing to recognize the defendant some 14 times until persuaded by receiving several million dollars from the US government.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/365 "2010-12-29T02:59:33Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> Well, it was the Scots that let him go and they generally don’t like to be called British anyway. But I’m a conspiracy theorist on this one - I think he was let go with the full knowledge/approval of the US and British governments to avoid an uncomfortable appeal which, for example, would disclose things like the Maltese shop owner failing to recognize the defendant some 14 times until persuaded by receiving several million dollars from the US government.

But if he has a firearm accident, may I count him?  
🙂

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/366 "2010-12-29T03:01:40Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> But if he has a firearm accident, may I count him?  
> 🙂

Absolutely. And let us hope it happens in the next 3 days. He is on my 2010 list, and that trumps all politics/justice.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/367 "2010-12-29T03:28:24Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> Absolutely. And let us hope it happens in the next 3 days. He is on my 2010 list, and that trumps all politics/justice.

Let’s hope he goes at the strike of midnight and we can both count him.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/368 "2010-12-29T03:29:48Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Let’s hope he goes at the strike of midnight and we can both count him.  
> 🙂

If he is still with us at about 11PM Central Dec 31, he’s on my 2011 list also. Then I could count him for both years…

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/369 "2010-12-29T03:50:44Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> If he is still with us at about 11PM Central Dec 31, he’s on my 2011 list also. Then I could count him for both years…

Well, you’re running the joint.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/370 "2010-12-29T03:54:17Z")

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Re-Vamping of my previous list to: (1) remove Aung San Suu Kyi on the grounds that the Myanmar junta might decide to openly execute her instead of arranging an ‘accident’; (2) jump on the Aretha bandwagon; (3) generally second-guess myself

1. Zsa Zsa Gabor (2/16/17), actress/low hanging fruit
2. Charlie Louvin (7/7/27), Country Music Hall of Famer
3. Ruth Bader Ginsburg (3/15/33), Supreme Court justice
4. Aretha Franklin (3/25/42), Queen of Soul
5. Roger Ebert (6/18/42), film critic
6. Michael Douglas (9/25/44), actor
7. Christopher Hitchens (4/13/49), commentator/author/gadfly
8. Gene Weingarten (10/2/51), Pulitzer Prize-winning Washington Post journalist
9. Abdel Baset Al-Megrahi (4/1/52), convicted bomber
10. Steve Jobs (2/24/55), Apple honcho
11. Connie Newton Needham (12/5/59), ‘Eight Is Enough’ actress
12. Orlando Thomas (10/21/72), former Minnesota Viking
13. Pete Doherty (3/12/79), musician/train wreck

Plain version:  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Charlie Louvin  
Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Aretha Franklin  
Roger Ebert  
Michael Douglas  
Christopher Hitchens  
Gene Weingarten  
Abdel Baset Al-Megrahi  
Steve Jobs  
Connie Newton Needham  
Orlando Thomas  
Pete Doherty

Alternates:  
Rush Limbaugh  
Darlene Cates

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/371 "2010-12-29T04:01:47Z")

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I gave up on Steve. Apparently if you have more money than G-d, you can beat pancreatic cancer.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/372 "2010-12-29T04:07:35Z")

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My revised list since I can’t have Charlie Kleinman, Pediatric cardiologist, recipient of 17 year old Marc Dawson’s heart.

Celebrity Death Pool 2011.  
This year’s contestants are:

Carl Kassel  
Aretha Franklin  
Michael Dokes  
Derryn Hinch  
Susie Edwards  
Mike Heimerdingerr  
Andy Whitfield  
Charlie Louvin  
Barack Obama  
Merle Haggard  
Bryant Gumbel  
Danny Buchanan  
Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi

Alternates  
Kathryn Joosten  
Anne Francis  
Carl Kassel, NPR announcer, quit the news and just does “Wait, Wait” now.  
Aretha Franklin, singer  
Michaek Dokes, boxer  
Derryn Hinch, Australian Shock Jock  
Susie Edwards, former WAFF reporter, WWL journalist.

Mike Heimerdinger, Titans Offensive Coach  
Andy Whitfield, Australian Actor  
Charlie Louvin, Country Music singer  
Barack Obama, POTUS, I wonder if the Secret Service will show up?  
Merle Haggard, another C&W singer  
Bryant Gumbel, sports caster.  
Danny Buchanan, former General Secretary of Jamaica.

Alternates  
Kathryn Joosten, Mrs. Landingham of the West Wing  
Anne Francis, actress in _The Forbidden Planet_

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Uncle\_Goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Goat)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/373 "2010-12-29T04:37:53Z")

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> [@fluiddruid](#):
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> Let’s keep this thread about the Celebrity Death Pool. Political comments really aren’t appropriate for The Game Room and are likely to hijack the thread, so please post them in a more appropriate venue - Great Debates, perhaps, if you want to discuss worst Supreme Court justices.
> 
> No warning issued.

😕

Well, that was actually in answer to a death pool theme question, however poorly phrased. I was under the impression that kicking people while they’re still up is okay in the death pool, although I kick them while they’re down too.

And while I don’t want to wish anyone ill, we are rapidly getting down to the last few hours here and not one single bastard on my 2010 list has had the decency to croak, damnit. I would hate for this waste of time to be pointless!

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/374 "2010-12-29T10:04:54Z")

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Zsa Zsa, who up until now has reigned supreme as the choice of entrants in 2011’s DP, is slipping in more ways than one. She is now tied for third, with Fidel Castro, while Aretha has surged ahead to the lead, with Michael Douglas in second.

But we only have half the number of the entrants so far as last year. Will there be the usual NYE surge? Stay tuned, boys and girls.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/375 "2010-12-29T12:56:15Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> But we only have half the number of the entrants so far as last year. Will there be the usual NYE surge? Stay tuned, boys and girls.

Last year we had 70 entries in the final two days, so we are running at about the same rate.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/376 "2010-12-29T21:56:10Z")

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Here goes nothing I suppose. I am tied for zero in this year’s pool, so things can only look up.

Plain list:

Aretha Franklin  
Michael Douglas  
Kim Jong-Il  
Lil Wayne  
Bobby Doerr  
Stan Musial  
Eleanor Mondale  
Seve Ballesteros  
Ronnie Biggs  
Leonid Stadnyk  
Margaret Thatcher  
Marilyn Horne  
James Ellroy

List with explanations:

Aretha Franklin, this year’s hot prospect apparently  
Michael Douglas, actor, also suffering  
Kim Jong-Il, little NK dictator  
Lil Wayne, slightly larger rapper with a penchant for crime and a big mouth  
Bobby Doerr, oldest living Baseball Hall of Famer  
Stan Musial, the Man, deserves a place with baseball’s greatest  
Eleanor Mondale, carryover from last year, Walter’s daughter  
Seve Ballesteros, Spanish golfer  
Ronnie Biggs, Great Train Robber  
Leonid Stadnyk, allegedly the world’s tallest man, from Ukraine  
Margaret Thatcher, Elvis Costello eagerly waiting his turn to tramp the dirt down  
Marilyn Horne, opera soprano from Bradford, PA  
James Ellroy, my favorite author, best known for L.A. Confidential, sadly looking way down from when I saw him some years ago

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**Author:** ![JessMagic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c0e974/32.png) [@JessMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JessMagic)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/377 "2010-12-29T21:58:19Z")

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Right, here we go with well-known UK politicians:

Ian Paisley  
Margaret Thatcher  
Tony Benn  
Michael Heseltine  
Menzies Campbell  
Kenneth Clarke  
Denis Healey  
Geoffrey Howe  
Roy Hattersley  
Norman Tebbit  
Glenda Jackson  
Nigel Lawson  
Cecil Parkinson

Reserves:  
Douglas Hurd  
David Mellor  
John Prescott

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**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/378 "2010-12-29T23:26:14Z")

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Here’s my unimaginative list:

Anne McCaffrey  
Stephen Hawking  
Michael Douglas  
Margaret Thatcher  
Amy Winehouse  
Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh  
Aretha Franklin  
Drew Carey  
Kim Jong Il  
John Goodman  
Roger Ebert  
Ariel Sharon  
Mel Gibson

Alternates:  
Randy Quaid  
John Goodman

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**Author:** ![BACI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ce73a5/32.png) [@BACI](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BACI)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/379 "2010-12-29T23:39:34Z")

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…and so I bestow the gift of life for another year to:

Chrissie Amphlett  
Jim Stynes  
Kirk Douglas  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Maggie Smith  
Peter O’Toole  
Derryn Hinch  
Margaret Thatcher  
Gore Vidal  
Peter Falk  
Richie Benaud  
Donald Sutherland  
Gough Whitlam

Alternates:  
Bob Hawke  
Larry Hagman  
Fidel Castro

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/380 "2010-12-30T00:17:02Z")

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This is an updated list:

Mario Batali  
Chaz Bono  
Yao Defen  
Aretha Franklin  
Jonah Hill  
Artie Lange  
Rosie O’Donnell  
Vincent Pastore  
William “Refrigerator” Perry  
Randy Quaid  
Gabourey Sidibe  
Sally Struthers  
Reuben Studdard  
Alternates:

Kirstie Alley  
Kevin Smith  
Oprah Winfrey

Note: Yao Defen is the tallest living woman

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