# The Celebrity Death Pool 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2010, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523 "2010-12-01T09:16:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bewildebeest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@Bewildebeest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bewildebeest)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/381 "2010-12-30T00:38:54Z")

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Doesn’t Yao Defen run into rule 3.g?

> [@](#):
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> 3.g. famous solely as a result of their illness or associated actions/events.

She has a pituitary tumor.

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**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/382 "2010-12-30T01:14:09Z")

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> [@Bewildebeest](#):
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> Doesn’t Yao Defen run into rule 3.g?
> 
> She has a pituitary tumor.

Meh, I have no say in this contest, but I would say not. What if you entered the world’s fattest person? That level of obesity would require a host of medical issues, but the primary source of fame is the extreme of weight, or in this case height. I think that rule was more to prevent the entry of random terminally ill people.

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**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/383 "2010-12-30T01:35:08Z")

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Queen Elizabeth II  
Duke of Edinburgh  
Julia Gillard  
Barack Obama  
Gough Whitlam  
Baroness Thatcher  
Hazel Hawke  
Angela Lansbury  
Mel Gibson  
Fidel Castro  
Julian Assange  
Sir Ninian Stephen  
Maggie Smith

And the list with some extra details added:

HM Queen Elizabeth II  
HRH the Duke of Edinburgh  
Julia Gillard, Australian PM  
Barack Obama  
Gough Whitlam, former Australian PM  
Baroness Thatcher, former UK PM  
Hazel Hawke, former wife of Bob Hawke, former Australian PM  
Angela Lansbury  
Mel Gibson  
Fidel Castro  
Julian Assange  
Sir Ninian Stephen, former Australian G-G  
Dame Maggie Smith, actress

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**Author:** ![SkyBlueKayak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc8723/32.png) [@SkyBlueKayak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkyBlueKayak)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/384 "2010-12-30T02:42:13Z")

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Christopher Lee  
Peter Bogdanovich  
Rita Moreno  
Jimmy Carter  
Barney Frank  
Goldie Hahn  
Abe Vigoda  
Andy Griffith  
Richard Dawson  
Peggy Lipton  
Margaret Thatcher  
Sophia Lauren  
Ariel Sharon

George H. Bush  
Dick Clark

oh yes—and while everyone can’t win, it is an honor just to be nominated 😉

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/385 "2010-12-30T02:50:53Z")

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Michael Douglas  
Muhammed Ali  
Willie Mays  
Russell Johnson  
Andy Rooney  
Jimmy Carter  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Merle Haggard  
Willie Nelson  
Lindsay Lohan  
Andy Griffith  
Aretha Franklin  
Dick Clark

Billy Graham  
BB King  
Phyllis Diller

Mostly old farts, with Lindsay thrown in there for a wild card.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/386 "2010-12-30T03:10:15Z")

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> [@fruitbat](#):
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> Meh, I have no say in this contest, but I would say not. What if you entered the world’s fattest person? That level of obesity would require a host of medical issues, but the primary source of fame is the extreme of weight, or in this case height. I think that rule was more to prevent the entry of random terminally ill people.

This.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/387 "2010-12-30T03:13:20Z")

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> [@SkyBlueKayak](#):
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> Goldie Hahn

Goldie Hawn?

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/388 "2010-12-30T03:49:53Z")

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> [@Bewildebeest](#):
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> Doesn’t Yao Defen run into rule 3.g?
> 
> She has a pituitary tumor.

Not that it matters, but I didn’t even know she had a tumah.  
mmm

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**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/389 "2010-12-30T04:19:48Z")

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Sean Hannity  
Muhammad Ali  
Lindsay Lohan  
Fidel Castro  
Bret Michaels  
Ariel Sharon  
Nelson Mandela  
Dick Clark  
Glen Beck  
Courtney Love  
Amy Winehouse  
Keith Richards  
Steve Jobs

Alternate:  
Sarah Palin  
Kate Gosselin  
Paul Tuetel Sr.

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**Author:** ![Registered\_at\_Last](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@Registered\_at\_Last](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Registered_at_Last)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/390 "2010-12-30T04:57:48Z")

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Well, here goes:

Christopher Hitchens (Author) 13 April 1949  
Andy Whitfield (Actor) July 17,1974  
Michael Douglas (Actor) September 25, 1944  
Geoffrey Hughes (Coronation Street Actor) 2 February 1944  
Roger Ebert (Movie guy) June 18, 1942  
Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi (Pan Am Bomber) 1 April 1952  
Mick Karn, (Musician “Japan”) 24 July 1958  
Aretha Franklin (Musician) March 25, 1942  
Martin Rayner (actor) , 61  
Severiano “Seve” Ballesteros Sota (Golfer) 9 April 1957  
Tony Proudfoot (Canadian Football player) September 10, 1949  
Gerry Rafferty (Musician) 16 April 1947  
Dennis Hardy “Fergie” Frederiksen (Musician “Toto”) May 15, 1951

Alternates:  
Reshma (Pakistani Singer 1947)  
ZsaZsa Gabor

Plain List:  
Christopher Hitchens  
Andy Whitfield  
Michael Douglas  
Geoffrey Hughes  
Roger Ebert  
Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi  
Mick Karn  
Aretha Franklin  
Martin Rayner  
Severiano Ballesteros  
Tony Proudfoot  
Gerry Rafferty  
Dennis Frederiksen

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/391 "2010-12-30T06:01:36Z")

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Harry Morgan  
Fidel Castro  
Dick Clark  
Wilford Brimley  
Jim Nabors  
Macaulay Culkin  
Dick Cheney  
Michael Douglas  
Richard Dreyfuss  
Dustin Hoffman  
Abe Vigoda  
Mary Tyler Moore  
Doris Roberts

3 alternates:  
Hal Smith - Pittsburgh Pirate infielder in 1960 who hit a 3 run home run in bottom of 8th of game 7.  
Muhammad Ali  
Priscilla Presley  
Harry Morgan  
Fidel Castro  
Dick Clark  
Wilford Brimley  
Jim Nabors  
Macaulay Culkin  
Dick Cheney  
Michael Douglas  
Richard Dreyfuss  
Dustin Hoffman  
Abe Vigoda  
Mary Tyler Moore  
Doris Roberts  
3 Alternates

Hal Smith  
Muhammad Ali  
Priscilla Presley

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**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/392 "2010-12-30T06:47:03Z")

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Okay, here (finally) is my list for 2011. There’s several “hold-overs” but there are also some newcomers, including a few long shots. I’m not including any alternates since it’s already the 30th - that’s surely an invitation for someone on the list to kick the bucket, I guess!

Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Aretha Franklin  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Bob Barker  
Joan Kennedy  
Jerry Lewis  
John Goodman  
Ron Glass  
Dick Clark  
Jim Arness  
Jeff Conaway  
Andy Dick  
Fidel Castro

I don’t know what sort of thing Abe Vigoda has going on, but it’s taking out his Barney Miller cast mates now! And I’m sorry to have to put Aretha on the list for 2011 but … ☹ John Goodman came to me through my daughter, who has made some other uniquely interesting suggestions in the past that came true (Anna Nicole Smith for one), and I still think that Andy Dick and Jeff Conaway are train wrecks waiting to happen. I have taken the Hasselhoff off the list this year … maybe he should be watching his back now. Ah well, the game will begin very soon, good luck to all!

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/393 "2010-12-30T11:33:48Z")

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After a glorious zero in 2010 I can at least be confident that I won’t do worse in 2011. Here we go:

Yao Defen, tallest living woman  
Paul Gascoigne, English footballer  
Seve Ballesteros  
Aretha Franklin  
Amy Winehouse  
Kim Jong-Il  
Larry Flynt  
Terry Pratchett  
Lindsay Lohan  
Robin Williams  
Lex Luger, wrestler  
Jeff Conaway  
Lisa Connell, extreme fan of Demi Moore  
Alternates:  
Michael Douglas  
Alan Jones, broadcaster

**Amarone** , I need a ruling for Lisa Connell, as I’m not sure if she’s only known for her illness.  
Plain list:

Yao Defen  
Paul Gascoigne  
Seve Ballesteros  
Aretha Franklin  
Amy Winehouse  
Kim Jong-Il  
Larry Flynt  
Terry Pratchett  
Lindsay Lohan  
Robin Williams  
Lex Luger  
Jeff Conaway  
Lisa Connell  
Alternates:  
Michael Douglas  
Alan Jones

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/394 "2010-12-30T11:38:45Z")

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My modified list of those amongst the immortals. Hey, I want on the Aretha wagon too!

David Hasselhoff  
Andrew Lloyd Weber  
Dick Clark  
Mohammed Ali  
Aretha Franklin  
Fidel Castro  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Charles Manson  
Ruth Bader Ginsberg  
Pamela Anderson  
Bob Newhart  
Seve Ballesteros

Alternates:  
Nancy Reagan  
Lindsay Lohan  
Robin Williams

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**Author:** ![Randy\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ee7513/32.png) [@Randy\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randy_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/395 "2010-12-30T14:39:32Z")

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Objection.

> [@Captain\_Klutz](#):
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> Lisa Connell, extreme fan of Demi Moore

Is only famous because of her [terminal illness](http://www.popcrunch.com/dying-woman-lisa-connell-demi-moore-inspired-plastic-surgery/).

EDIT: On preview, I see **Captain Klutz** already raised this concern. Consider it seconded.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/396 "2010-12-30T14:59:35Z")

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> [@Randy\_Seltzer](#):
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> Objection.
> 
> Is only famous because of her [terminal illness](http://www.popcrunch.com/dying-woman-lisa-connell-demi-moore-inspired-plastic-surgery/).
> 
> EDIT: On preview, I see **Captain Klutz** already raised this concern. Consider it seconded.

Thanks for highlighting that - I had missed the original request. There will be a lot of entries in the next couple of days and I often just copy and paste the plain list without reading the rest of the post. The best ways of attracting my attention for a ruling will be with a completely separate post, or PM me.

I think she does fall foul of the “only known for her illness” rule. She has a web site with her “life story” on it and there is nothing about her before her illness that would warrant any sort of celebrity status.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/397 "2010-12-30T15:50:45Z")

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1. Zsa Zsa Gabor – Actress
2. Michael Douglas – Actor
3. Ariel Sharon – Former Israeli Prime Minister
4. Mike Heimerdinger – NFL Coach
5. Abdel Baset al-Megrahi – Lockerbie Bomber
6. Aretha Franklin – Singer
7. Peter Falk – Actor
8. Roger Ebert – Film Critic
9. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad – Iranian President
10. Al Davis – Raiders’ Owner
11. Harley Race – Wrestler
12. Muhammad Ali – Boxer
13. Reverend Donald Wildmon – Raging Douchebag

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Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Michael Douglas  
Ariel Sharon  
Mike Heimerdinger  
Abdel Baset al-Megrahi  
Aretha Franklin  
Peter Falk  
Roger Ebert  
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  
Al Davis  
Harley Race  
Muhammad Ali  
Reverend Donald Wildmon

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/398 "2010-12-30T16:19:27Z")

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Amarone, Please allow to change my 1st draft to:

Arethra Franklin  
Roger Ebert  
Charley Trippi  
Muhammad Ali  
Johnny Lujack  
Michael Douglas  
Art Donovan  
Marv Levy  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
YA Tittle  
Seve Ballesteros  
Harmon Killebrew  
Al Davis

Alternates:

Bud Grant  
Joe Perry

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/399 "2010-12-30T16:32:06Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Amarone, Please allow to change my 1st draft to:
> 
> Arethra Franklin  
> Roger Ebert  
> Charley Trippi  
> Muhammad Ali  
> Johnny Lujack  
> Michael Douglas  
> Art Donovan  
> Marv Levy  
> Zsa Zsa Gabor  
> YA Tittle  
> Seve Ballesteros  
> Harmon Killebrew  
> Al Davis
> 
> Alternates:
> 
> Bud Grant  
> Joe Perry

Ok. So you have dropped your theme.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/400 "2010-12-30T16:53:25Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> Ok. So you have dropped your theme.

yes i didn’t want to be shut out. 😃 like this year

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