# The Celebrity Death Pool 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2010, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523 "2010-12-01T09:16:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/141 "2010-12-07T19:03:25Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> hmmm. do I destroy my theme for a sure thing? uh, nope. I like my theme and I am already on one bandwagon. Besides, after reading the articles, I’m guessing Elizabeth Edwards does not make it past Christmas.

Bandwagon? I had her as a pick for the current game. Neener neener neener!

**Amarone:** howzabout a new award, for the most alternates exercised?

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/142 "2010-12-07T21:07:29Z")

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I see lots of Dick Clark, Zsa Zsa, and Ariel Sharon in the lists.

I mock your picks - MOCK MOCK MOCK 😛 😛 😛

These “people” are not of this world! Time and space (and death) are different for them.

ETA currently 92nd in the 2010 pool.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/143 "2010-12-07T21:52:07Z")

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> [@VunderBob](#):
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> **Amarone:** howzabout a new award, for the most alternates exercised?

I don’t keep a record of alternates. They are almost never needed so it is easier just to look them up when needed.

In other words: No!

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/144 "2010-12-07T22:11:20Z")

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Speaking of alternates, seven people who have already picked Elizabeth Edwards will now have to use an alternate.

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/145 "2010-12-07T22:18:58Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Speaking of alternates, seven people who have already picked Elizabeth Edwards will now have to use an alternate.

Including me…

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/146 "2010-12-07T22:40:29Z")

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And me. I think I’m playing this game wrong.

Side bet: Zsa Zsa and Ariel snuff it before Christmas.

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/147 "2010-12-07T23:22:16Z")

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**Swamp’s Annual List Of Those Who Shall Live Forever The Sequel**

Replacing Elizabeth Edwards with Lindsay Lohan. I figure she’s about two trips to rehab from buyin’ the farm.

David Hasselhoff  
Andrew Lloyd Weber  
Dick Clark  
Mohammed Ali  
Betty Ford  
Fidel Castro  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Charles Manson  
Ruth Bader Ginsberg  
Pamela Anderson  
Bob Newhart  
Seve Ballesteros  
Lindsay Lohan

Alternates:  
Nancy Reagan  
Robin Williams

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**Author:** ![critter42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@critter42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/critter42)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/148 "2010-12-07T23:26:09Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> How about everyone waiting a while before changing their lists? It will likely save you (and me) the trouble of having to change it back again.

OK, did you have an inside track on Elizabeth Edwards or something? I mean really… :smack:  
😃 :eek: 🙂

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/149 "2010-12-07T23:34:15Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> How about everyone waiting a while before changing their lists? It will likely save you (and me) the trouble of having to change it back again.

Good In theory. Just don’t think it did what you wanted it to do.

> **[Harsher in Hindsight - TV Tropes](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HarsherInHindsight?from=Main.FunnyAneurysmMoment)**
>
> Harsher in Hindsight is a certain event, plotline, joke or saying where a later event (in the story or real life) comes up to make it worse. It can lead to episodes or issues being pulled or held from re-running if executives want it to be …

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/150 "2010-12-07T23:37:17Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> Good In theory. Just don’t think it did what you wanted it to do.
> 
> [Harsher in Hindsight - TV Tropes](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FunnyAneurysmMoment)

I don’t get the connection to your link. I was not trying to be funny about anything and I don’t see how the result was anything different from what I wanted. I really did want people to hold off from changing their lists to put EE on as from the reports it seemed unlikely she would last until then.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/151 "2010-12-07T23:45:06Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> I don’t get the connection to your link. I was not trying to be funny about anything and I don’t see how the result was anything different from what I wanted. I really did want people to hold off from changing their lists to put EE on as from the reports it seemed unlikely she would last until then.

Just the making people cringe part. It seems as if we have a black mark on 2011 already.

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**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/152 "2010-12-07T23:50:12Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> EVANGELICALS WHO NEED TO MEET THEIR MAKER
> 
> Tony Alamo – Cult leader and sex with minors  
> Warren Jeffs – Poligamist – child abuse  
> Fred Phelps -Westbobo Baptist Church  
> Charles Manson – Still around  
> Kent Hovind – Young Earth Christian (extreme) and tax protester  
> Jim Bakker – Telethief – adultery - corruption  
> Sun Myung Moon – Cult, tax fraud, corruption  
> Benny Hinn – Telethief, fake healer, corruption  
> Jimmy Swaggart – Telethief – adultery - corruption  
> Robert Tilton – Corrupt televangelist  
> James Dobson – Focus on Family, hate group, political corruption  
> Ted Haggard – “Over-repented from his gay prostitute and drugs days”  
> Joseph Ratzinger – Con man, Cult leader

From the list theme, it seems pretty certain to me that the last person on the list is usually known as [Pope Benedict XVI](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI), and is on many other lists. Not sure if anyone else, **amarone** specifically, caught this.

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/153 "2010-12-08T00:33:17Z")

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Revised list, with previous name correction and substitution for EE. Changes are bolded.

Connie Newton Needham  
**Paul Teutel**  
George Karl  
Mari Hulman George  
Adam Yauch  
Louis Farrakhan  
Michael Douglas  
Harlan Ellison  
Marcia Strassman  
Lindsay Lohan  
Theresa Heinz Kerry  
**Penny Marshall**  
Andy Whitfield

Alternates:

Maggie Smith  
George Soros  
Michael Moore

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/154 "2010-12-08T01:56:07Z")

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I was tempted to go for a pro wrestling theme, (Have you checked that profession? They are dropping like [del]super[/del]flies!) but there were other choices in other professions that I think could not be ignored.

I will still go for the theme at the Giraffe Boards but I’m changing tactics here.

Kim Jong-il  
Ariel Sharon  
Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi  
Jeff Conaway  
Boris Spassky  
Lindsay Lohan  
Michael Douglas  
Christopher Hitchens  
Rich Buhler  
Baby Jake Matlala  
Gerry Rafferty  
Superstar Billy Graham  
Raymond Louis Heenan

Alternate:  
Muhammad Ali

Quick notes:

Rich Buhler: Southern California Christian radio host  
Boris Spassky: The Russian chess master that searched for Bobby Fisher.  
Baby Jake Matlala: South African boxer and junior flyweight champion  
Gerry Rafferty: Scottish singer and songwriter.  
Superstar Billy Graham: Not the preacher, this is the pro wrestler, real name is Wayne Coleman.  
Raymond Louis Heenan: Former wrestler too, better known as Bobby “The Brain” Heenan.

I will post a final list with changes (this is very likely as Elizabeth Eduards was going to be on my list) and commentary later, just posting now just in case I forget the deadline and to see how many unique pics or copycats 🙂 I notice.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/155 "2010-12-08T02:23:18Z")

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> [@glowacks](#):
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> From the list theme, it seems pretty certain to me that the last person on the list is usually known as [Pope Benedict XVI](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI), and is on many other lists. Not sure if anyone else, **amarone** specifically, caught this.

I did not know the name Ratzinger until someone notified me by PM. If people want to get cute with names, that’s fine, but they take the risk that I will not know/notice and then the onus will be on them to make sure they get their points should the person die.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/156 "2010-12-08T02:27:44Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> Just the making people cringe part.

Anyone who cringes is in the wrong thread. May I suggest they find something about kittens in MPSIMS?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/157 "2010-12-08T02:38:17Z")

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Okay, revised list:

Kim Jong-il  
Kim Jong-chul  
Kim Jong-nam  
Kim Jong-un  
Fidel Castro  
Michael Douglas  
Roger Ebert  
Peter Tork  
Margaret Thatcher  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Blake Fielder-Civil  
Amy Winehouse  
Courtney Love

(replacing Elizabeth Edwards with Peter Tork)

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**Author:** ![KennerTheGreat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a8b319/32.png) [@KennerTheGreat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennerTheGreat)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/158 "2010-12-08T03:14:15Z")

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Maura Tierney  
Jacques Parizeau  
Duke Snider  
Dick Clark  
Julian Assange  
Russell Johnson  
Joe Paterno  
Leif Garrett  
Janice Dickinson  
Bob Barker  
Jeff Conaway  
Gordie Howe  
Joanie Laurer

Alternates:  
Elmer Lach  
Grace Slick  
Bill Cosby

Notes:  
Maura Tierney-actress  
Jacques Parizeau-former Premier of Quebec  
Duke Snider-Baseball Hall of Famer  
Julian Assange-Wikileaks guy  
Russell Johnson-The Professor (Gilligan’s Island)  
Joe Paterno-Penn State football coach  
Leif Garrett-actor of sorts  
Janice Dickinson-model, actress, etc.  
Bob Barker-The Price Is Right longtime emcee  
Jeff Conaway-actor  
Gordie Howe-Mr. Hockey  
Joanie Laurer-actress, former wrestler (Chyna)

Alternates:  
Elmer Lach-Hockey Hall of Famer  
Grace Slick-Jefferson Airplane/Starship frontwoman  
Bill Cosby-actor, comedian

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/159 "2010-12-08T12:14:41Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> Anyone who cringes is in the wrong thread. May I suggest they find something about kittens in MPSIMS?

I just mentally high-fived you. 😃

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2011/562523/160 "2010-12-08T13:07:31Z")

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[QUOTE=KennerTheGreat]  
Julian Assange  
[/QUOTE]

Interesting choice. He’s not sick, but he’s certainly not making any friends in the intellegence community.

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