# The Celebrity Death Pool 2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** death-pool\ **Created:** [December 1, 2011, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679 "2011-12-01T06:00:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1441 "2012-04-22T17:34:30Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Don’t you find it fishy that this local radio personality doesn’t immediately come up when her name is Googled? I realize people do searches for “celebrity death pools” and find choices that aren’t immediately obvious, which is fine (though a tad ghoulish and contrary to the spirit of the game), but this smacks of someone who is famous solely for his or her terminal illness, which does violate rule 3(g). Uh, no, I had already experience with that before, on an early dead pool I did choose a couple of prospects that had become famous thanks to their funding efforts for finding a cure for their ailments, choices like that are not valid anymore; Susan Clark was already known for her morning radio show \*\*before \*\*she became sick. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1442 "2012-04-22T17:36:38Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > No, I don’t find it fishy, and the points will count. I also don’t think that “3g” is being violated. > > Remember, it’s just a game. Games have rules. That’s what makes them worthwhile to play. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > Uh, no, I had already experience with that before, on an early dead pool I did choose a couple of prospects that had become famous thanks to their funding efforts for finding a cure for their ailments, choices like that are not valid anymore; Susan Clark was already known for her morning radio show \*\*before \*\*she became sick. Known where? Anyplace outside of Montana? ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1443 "2012-04-22T17:50:43Z")
I believe we have this discussion about celebrity every year. And it basically comes down to “I know it when I see it.” I tried googling “Susan Clark radio” and in the first 10 links, 4 were about her. (Apparently Susan Clark is a popular name in radio! :)) > [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > I realize people do searches for “celebrity death pools” and find choices that aren’t immediately obvious, which is fine (though a tad ghoulish and contrary to the spirit of the game), but this smacks of someone who is famous solely for his or her terminal illness, which does violate rule 3(g). I find it amusing that you think googling celebrity death pools is a tad ghoulish. Read any page in any of the Death Pool threads since they started in 2000 (Wow, its been a while. :eek:) and you will find jokes a lot more ghoulish than using google to find someone for a list. There’s a reason the most common joke in the threads is about how crowded the handbasket heading down will be. 🙂 If Susan Clark had became a radio personality because she had cancer and was dying, you would have an argument about her being famous for being sick. But she had been in radio for almost 20 years, on the air as a DJ and host most of the time. A local celebrity yes, but still a celebrity. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1444 "2012-04-22T18:05:57Z")
> [@Lok](#): > > I believe we have this discussion about celebrity every year. And it basically comes down to “I know it when I see it.” I tried googling “Susan Clark radio” and in the first 10 links, 4 were about her. (Apparently Susan Clark is a popular name in radio! :)) But “Susan Clark” doesn’t come up with anything. When I search for such nondescript names as “Ed Schultz” or “Michelle Block” or “Laurie Roth”, they pop up on the first page of results, without needing the extra “radio” modifier. Those people seem to be notable enough to show up in Google just based on their name, which suggests to me that they are celebrities. But Google doesn’t think Susan Clark the Montana radio host is important enough to show up in a basic search. Susan Clark is no more a celebrity than my local car dealer who airs zany commercials. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1445 "2012-04-22T18:05:58Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Games have rules. That’s what makes them worthwhile to play. > > Known where? Anyplace outside of Montana? Take another look at post # 1435. And that’s my final word on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1446 "2012-04-22T18:06:35Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Known where? Anyplace outside of Montana? Well, the two that I had circa 2008 were indeed local celebrities (and got points for them when there was no rule on the “famous just by being sick”), but what disqualify them now is \*\*specifically \*\*that they became celebrities thanks to their sickness, \*\*not \*\*that they were local celebrities; anyhow, what was pointed out by the rule makers before (Even before Baker became the rule maker and arbiter) was that local celebrities that can be found with Google and published on the press (that is, that can be found by everybody else) are ok to use. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1447 "2012-04-22T18:07:41Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > Take another look at post # 1435. And that’s my final word on the subject. Look, if you don’t want to make any effort at applying the limited rules of the game, just say so and I’ll drop it. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1448 "2012-04-22T18:08:53Z")
Drop it. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1449 "2012-04-22T18:10:13Z")
Fine. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1450 "2012-04-22T18:24:25Z")
NM ---
**Author:** ![CAMJAY77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5fc32e/32.png) [@CAMJAY77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CAMJAY77)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1451 "2012-04-22T18:49:20Z")
> [@Lok](#): > > I believe we have this discussion about celebrity every year. And it basically comes down to “I know it when I see it.” I tried googling “Susan Clark radio” and in the first 10 links, 4 were about her. (Apparently Susan Clark is a popular name in radio! :)) > > I find it amusing that you think googling celebrity death pools is a tad ghoulish. Read any page in any of the Death Pool threads since they started in 2000 (Wow, its been a while. :eek:) and you will find jokes a lot more ghoulish than using google to find someone for a list. There’s a reason the most common joke in the threads is about how crowded the handbasket heading down will be. 🙂 > > If Susan Clark had became a radio personality because she had cancer and was dying, you would have an argument about her being famous for being sick. But she had been in radio for almost 20 years, on the air as a DJ and host most of the time. A local celebrity yes, but still a celebrity. She is/was also an artist [http://www.kbllradio.com/pages/7160237.php](http://www.kbllradio.com/pages/7160237.php) ---
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1452 "2012-04-22T19:40:54Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Games have rules. That’s what makes them worthwhile to play. You’ve never played Calvinball, have you? > [@Lok](#): > > (Apparently Susan Clark is a popular name in radio! :)) Radio DJs are encouraged to pick generic names. Was Susan Clark her _real_ name or DJ name? ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1453 "2012-04-22T21:15:19Z")
> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#): > > Radio DJs are encouraged to pick generic names. Was Susan Clark her _real_ name or DJ name? Her real name was Susan Edwards, but no explanation about why she used Clark. No mention of a husband, so not likely it was her maiden name. OTOH, if he was long gone it might have been. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1454 "2012-04-22T21:34:34Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > No, I don’t find it fishy, and the points will count. I also don’t think that “3g” is being violated. > > Remember, it’s just a game. It’s not just a game, it’s a way of life. Or death. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1455 "2012-04-23T20:11:55Z")
News reports keep mocking me. So great, Gibbs recovery is confounding his doctors. Good for him. Do you have to rub it in? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1456 "2012-04-23T22:31:27Z")
As if all those bits they must had plug to his veins and lungs were useless. Once again, you win again science! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![zoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7ea924/32.png) [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1457 "2012-04-24T03:27:19Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Susan Clark is no more a celebrity than my local car dealer who airs zany commercials. Is your local car dealer sick? How old is he? What’s his name, maybe he’ll be worth some points next year.😃 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1458 "2012-04-24T03:41:09Z")
> [@zoog](#): > > Is your local car dealer sick? How old is he? What’s his name, maybe he’ll be worth some points next year.😃 Well I’ll be, I thought he was dead, the most famous example:[Cal Worthington](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEm1ibd1_xQ) is still alive, and he is worth just about 7 points. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![zoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7ea924/32.png) [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1459 "2012-04-24T04:02:21Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Well I’ll be, I thought he was dead, the most famous example:[Cal Worthington](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEm1ibd1_xQ) is still alive, and he is worth just about 7 points. 😃 Is his dog Spot still alive? ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/1460 "2012-04-24T21:13:37Z")
> [@zoog](#): > > Is his dog Spot still alive? Last time I saw Cal his dog Spot was an elephant. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679.md?page=72) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679.md?page=74)