# The Center for Hysteria in the Public Interest says Ice Cream is Unhealthy! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 25, 2003, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882 "2003-07-25T14:47:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/61 "2003-07-26T15:27:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Homebrew \* > \*\*:: turns keyboard over :: > > Damn, it **does** have a warning on it. \*\* Hey, mine doesn’t! That means I can sue, right? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/62 "2003-07-26T17:00:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Herein lies another problem with Libertarian philosophy: it means the end of disclosure-based regulation. No, it doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/63 "2003-07-26T17:19:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Libertarian \* > \*\*No, it doesn’t. \*\* Care to elaborate? That certainly sounds inconsistent with what I quoted from you in my last post. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/64 "2003-07-26T17:30:57Z")
Don’t confuse Libertaria (my personally prefered implimentation of libertarianism) with libertarianism as a philosophy of ethics. It is easy to conceive of libertarian formulations wherein full disclosure is considered by the populace to be a guarantee against initiated fraud (coercion). ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/65 "2003-07-26T18:08:34Z")
OK, but who enforces that disclosure? If in Libertaria someone wants to sell a food product with no nutritional disclosures, what then? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/66 "2003-07-26T21:21:05Z")
Honestly, I think it’s mostly just a matter of the difference between legislation and arbitration. In Libertaria (again this is a _particular_ implementation that you’re asking about), if you believe that an ice-cream shop has misrepresented its product as safe (a reasonable conclusion if they deliberately withhold information about its nutritional content), then you may charge them with coercion and see whether your community agrees with you. I think you dislike Libertaria partly out of habit, and mostly because I am such a poor expositor. I honestly think, from what I’ve read from you, that you would really like it there. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/67 "2003-07-27T02:35:13Z")
Now what happens if the shop is serving squid flavoured ice-cream with extra squid? Choking hazard or coronary hazard? ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/68 "2003-07-27T02:37:03Z")
🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/69 "2003-07-27T09:49:15Z")
I’m afraid that the Giant Squids might have to deal with the man who owns all the water on earth. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/70 "2003-07-27T10:07:26Z")
It might be possible to somehow beam out nutritional information via lighthouses, too. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/71 "2003-07-27T10:14:42Z")
But if I buy all the land around your lighthouse, can I sue you for emitting photons in my quantum field? ---
**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/72 "2003-07-27T10:24:18Z")
It’s an interesting legal tangle–I’m only using the photons via a temporary lease from G, the greatest possible existence fellow who owns them in the first (and last) place. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/73 "2003-07-27T10:55:09Z")
Yeah but can we get him in court to prove he owns them. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/74 "2003-07-27T11:07:34Z")
Sure. After all, He’s the Perfect Libertarian. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/75 "2003-07-27T20:52:38Z")
**Lib:** _I understand your reasoning._ Then shame on you for so grossly mischaracterizing it. If I thought you really didn’t understand what I meant and weren’t just distorting my remarks for your own smug and self-seeking purposes, I’d have a lot more patience with you. ---
**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/76 "2003-07-28T05:01:14Z")
> [@](#): > > Ice Cream is unhealthy? \ What was that? \ Contains diced monkey… \ ---
**Author:** ![modro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@modro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/modro)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/77 "2003-07-28T05:17:53Z")
Well, duh. It tastes good, is made from milk fat and sugar, with a wide assortment of incredibly tasty but bad-for-you additives like, say, cookie dough, and this is a surprise? Just give me my damn cone and stay the fuck out of my freezer. And now, it has been discovered that drinking hydrochloric acid may cause heartburn… ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/78 "2003-07-28T16:45:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kimstu \* > \*\ ***Lib:** _I understand your reasoning._ > > Then shame on you for so grossly mischaracterizing it. If I thought you really didn’t understand what I meant and weren’t just distorting my remarks for your own smug and self-seeking purposes, I’d have a lot more patience with you. \*\* Smug? Self-seeking? Y’know, people eventually become their ad hominems. That really wasn’t much of a step up from “Bullshit” and “Pfui”. ---
**Author:** ![overlyverbose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9dc877/32.png) [@overlyverbose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/overlyverbose)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/79 "2003-07-28T17:16:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RAWDuke \* > \*\*They also want warning labels on [hot dogs and grapes](http://www.cspinet.org/new/200307171.html) and want to pull gel candies from the shelves so our poor selves will stop choking to death. \*\* For shit’s sake. They’re taking all the fun out of food. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882/80 "2003-07-28T19:32:51Z")
> [@](#): > > He said even food that is labeled may be incorrectly labeled. “Cold Stone Creamery offers fat-free frozen yogurt, or so they would have you believe,” Jacobson said. CSPI tests showed a small, 7 ounce serving contained 11 grams of fat and 7 grams of artery-clogging saturated fat. Gee, a company misrepresenting its products, claiming something’s non-fat when it’s not. I can’t imagine why anyone would want to know that! :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-center-for-hysteria-in-the-public-interest-says-ice-cream-is-unhealthy/190882.md?page=5)