# The "Christians" are coming! The "Christians" are coming! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 12, 2021, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-christians-are-coming-the-christians-are-coming/946304 "2021-07-12T13:42:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-christians-are-coming-the-christians-are-coming/946304/261 "2022-08-24T09:13:11Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > I have a hard time no one has a comment on this particular portion of the article. All of it seems quite inflammatory to me. While it is an excellent and informative read and I thank you for it, it is all very sadly familiar to those of us who have been watching the rise of this “Trump, Country and God (in that order)” mindset, both across America and in our own families and communities. There is nothing in it that surprises me anymore. When I was a teenager I read the Bible cover to cover (N.B. Numbers is _boring_. Definitely skip it.). One of the things that puzzled me at the time was how easily so many of the Israelites turned to worship of the Golden Calf. After the last six years, I no longer wonder, as I have seen it happen before my eyes. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-christians-are-coming-the-christians-are-coming/946304/262 "2022-08-24T10:20:18Z")
See, if God didnt want Biden to be president, He wouldve stopped it. Or is the voters will more powerful than Gods? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-christians-are-coming-the-christians-are-coming/946304/263 "2022-08-24T11:32:44Z")
I do love pointing out Romans 13:1-7 to Republicans: > [@](#): > > 1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience. > > 6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. (NIV) I mean, that applies to Trump too, but still - the Bible saying “Obey the government even when you don’t like the person in charge because God put him there - oh, and pay your taxes” tends to annoy them. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-christians-are-coming-the-christians-are-coming/946304/264 "2022-08-24T11:43:47Z")
To take this off the rails again (somewhat reluctantly – but somehow, how can I not when I read this), apparently a wealthy Oligarch has donated one and a half BILLION dollars to the founder of the Federalist Society so he will be enabled to influence our judges and justices for a long, long time. (This is from the first of three e-mails I received from former classmates of mine from the Bible College. The three of us are the only known living non-Trump Republicans from the history of the school, so pretty much everyday we share some fresh outrage that the other alums are supporting. There may be more after I open the second e-mail!) > **[How a Secretive Billionaire Handed His Fortune to the Architect of the...](https://www.propublica.org/article/dark-money-leonard-leo-barre-seid)** > > In the largest known political advocacy donation in U.S. history, industrialist Barre Seid funded a new group run by Federalist Society co-chair Leonard Leo, who guided Trump’s Supreme Court picks and helped end federal abortion rights. Now they are extremely well funded extremists!! ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-christians-are-coming-the-christians-are-coming/946304/265 "2022-08-24T11:57:31Z")
The second one is actually funny. It does give a glimpse inside the mind of a MAGA Republican however: [https://apis.mail.yahoo.com/ws/v3/mailboxes/@.id==VjN-AckcqbhbJwvLdV80Am2SpcN5d-TfjcGcLdqKxF7KT\_PuYmj76W0XbIiwE5f2pHqLKU3W9RB9hsviOcxCKcdQJg/messages/@.id==AOKiSWR4zdePYwX2-QvfEFX\_lKA/content/parts/@.id==2.2/thumbnail?appid=YMailNorrin&downloadWhenThumbnailFails=true&pid=2.2](https://apis.mail.yahoo.com/ws/v3/mailboxes/@.id==VjN-AckcqbhbJwvLdV80Am2SpcN5d-TfjcGcLdqKxF7KT_PuYmj76W0XbIiwE5f2pHqLKU3W9RB9hsviOcxCKcdQJg/messages/@.id==AOKiSWR4zdePYwX2-QvfEFX_lKA/content/parts/@.id==2.2/thumbnail?appid=YMailNorrin&downloadWhenThumbnailFails=true&pid=2.2) ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-christians-are-coming-the-christians-are-coming/946304/266 "2022-08-24T12:20:17Z")
And back on target, here is an article my friend sent me apparently because he was thinking I might be able to sleep through the night without waking up with terrors. Again it contains references to Mastriano in Pennsylvania, but also to Toronto where full grown adults roll around on the floor and bark like dogs! Cannot wait for these people to be in charge of our government!! I mean, what could POSSIBLY go wrong?? > **[The Rising Influence of the New Apostolic Reformation](https://newrepublic.com/article/167499/new-apostolic-reformation-mastriano-christian)** > > The New Apostolic Reformation doesn’t always admit its own existence, but it’s growing in influence in the Republican Party. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-christians-are-coming-the-christians-are-coming/946304/267 "2022-08-25T02:03:14Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > “Fighting with Trump is fighting God,” [Wallnau declared in October 2020](https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/lance-wallnau-claims-fighting-trump-%e2%80%8bis-fighting-god-says-while-trump-%e2%80%8bis-sick-gods-angel-will-wreck-his-enemies/). They think Trump is capable of going up against a deity with only a little help from his trusty sidekicks? ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-christians-are-coming-the-christians-are-coming/946304/268 "2022-08-25T02:35:39Z")
Every article about these people is more insane, over top, and more unhinged than the last one. They have these flags of Trump all buffed up with bulging muscles firing an AR-15 while scowling. They are crazy (and every day my former dorm mate sends me at least one of these articles). Did you watch them recite the prayer ?? ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-christians-are-coming-the-christians-are-coming/946304/269 "2022-08-25T04:13:02Z")
Aw, hell, no. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-christians-are-coming-the-christians-are-coming/946304/270 "2022-08-25T05:42:52Z")
The way their minds work is very scary. Watch them recite this prayer of theirs and see why we need to fear them and fight against them at every possible point. I don’t recall all of the horrors it contains – but it was almost unbelievable to me. To understand what they are claiming is quite eye opening. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-christians-are-coming-the-christians-are-coming/946304/271 "2022-08-29T01:19:05Z")
FWIW, in 2012, the priest of the Episcopal church I attended at the time said that during major election cycles, he couldn’t go out in public with his collar on and not have someone approach him and ask, “So, who does God want us to vote for?” He would always reply that they needed to examine the issues, and vote for the candidate they think is best. On Election Day 2012, his wife took their 5-year-old daughter with her, and said daughter squealed, “Mommy, you voted for the one with the big [capital letter of candidate]!” Probably not the first OR last time anything like that has happened. (And on a related note, there was an old “Family Circus” cartoon where one of the kids says, “Mommy, that’s not the lever Daddy pushed” and I just plain old didn’t get it until very recent years. In other words, Thel has a mind of her own.) ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-christians-are-coming-the-christians-are-coming/946304/272 "2022-08-30T00:43:37Z")
I just wanted to thank you (@Temporary_Name) for the article, although the heartburn, spikes in blood pressure, and lack of sleep due to in-bed fuming and nightmares may be a bit of a price to pay. I actually added it to my old Michael Flynn Pit thread when I (and others) went ballistic about his assertation that the US needed to be one nation, under his God. We had been mostly looking at the specific speech in question, and it was enlightening to see the larger scope of the moment he is hand-in-hand with as well as some of his other dog whistles. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-christians-are-coming-the-christians-are-coming/946304.md?page=13)