# The Church and gender issues. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 25, 2004, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-church-and-gender-issues/226059 "2004-01-25T23:37:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-church-and-gender-issues/226059/21 "2004-01-30T01:56:11Z")
> [@TheHouse87](#): > > To be honest with you, I am not gay myself, and i don’t plan to become gay… or transsexual, or transvestite, or anything else you might come up with. What i do know is: in the church, Homosexuality is such a difficult issue BECAUSE God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. The Earth was meant to be shared by a man and a woman and thus having familes of children which would marry man and woman just as the example had. If God wanted Adam and Steve, he would have made it that way. The reason this topic is so difficult is because noone ever accounted for homosexuality years ago, it was not an issue. Some bullshit says that homosexuality is because of a missing chromosome or something. Now I can’t HELP but believe that that is horse shit. When you hear of one of your friends GOING homo or some person of an acquaintence of yours going gay or however you would say it, they never started gay, it is just because of curiousity, and/or bad relationships previously with the opposite sex. Thus, same sex relationships are a difficult topic and should be avoided at all costs. Wow…I can tell you’re gonna have fun on this message board… Who “GOES gay”? Do you have any evidence that they were previously heterosexual? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-church-and-gender-issues/226059/22 "2004-01-30T01:57:34Z")
Oh, and God didn’t “make” Adam & Eve. The Creation story in the Bible isn’t literally true. Or are you going to argue evolution as well? ---
**Author:** ![KellyM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/57b2e6/32.png) [@KellyM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyM)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-church-and-gender-issues/226059/23 "2004-01-30T02:16:48Z")
> [@TheHouse87](#): > > in the church, Homosexuality is such a difficult issue BECAUSE God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Uh, this thread is about transsexuals and the current bill in the British Parliament to recognize certain human rights related to transsexuality. There is no reason to be discussing homosexuality at all in this thread; homosexuality and transsexuality are unrelated, except in the minds of the ignorant (who know not better) and the bigoted (who care not). ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-church-and-gender-issues/226059/24 "2004-01-30T02:40:56Z")
God did too create Steve! He created everyone and everything. The fact that Genesis first describes the union of a man and a woman proves nothing, but the biological reality that both genders are needed to reproduce. ---
**Author:** ![IWLN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@IWLN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IWLN)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-church-and-gender-issues/226059/25 "2004-01-30T03:28:13Z")
Someone needs to tell **TheHouse87’s** mommy that the NetNanny is on the fritz again. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-church-and-gender-issues/226059/26 "2004-01-30T03:55:38Z")
> [@IWLN](#): > > Someone needs to tell **TheHouse87’s** mommy that the NetNanny is on the fritz again. :rolleyes: Now, folks, he’s just ignorant. Weren’t we all at some point? Can I get an ATGG in the house? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-church-and-gender-issues/226059/27 "2004-01-30T09:16:40Z")
[QUOTE=TheHouse87] To be honest with you, I am not gay myself, and i don’t plan to become gay… or transsexual, or transvestite, or anything else you might come up with. [QUOTE] Much like everyone else then; I’m glad you agree that sexuality doesn’t generally seem to be something that people consciously choose. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-church-and-gender-issues/226059/28 "2004-01-30T13:45:53Z")
> [@Menocchio](#): > > God did too create Steve! I’m terribly relieved to hear that. (Not that I plan on having sex with anyone called Adam. But I’m generally supportive of the rights of Adams to have sex with men or women, according to mutual inclination and consent, and, as **KellyM** says, what has any of this got to do with transsexuality anyway?) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-church-and-gender-issues/226059.md?page=1)