Yeah, try to get 67 Republican senators to go along with that.
What mechanism exists to sanction a Justice?
I’m taking her at her word unlike some Reich-wing commentators who don’t understand testimony under oath.
This wasn’t even hearsay. She was there, with the justices. I’m a believer. [hint of sarcasm]
‘Hey! I’m a real Christian not one of those Godless Mormons!’ ~ Peg
We’d need to elect 17 more of them first.
Seventeen Nineteen.
Next session…?
eh, math…
No math allowed. Math means counting. We’ll not be having that. All votes will go to the Republican automatically.
I don’t know how much of this is new, here, vs. how much is just reinforcement, corroboration, and amplification, but I did throw up in my mouth just a bit:
Fortunately it was just a dissent - this time.
Something about aging folks becoming more susceptible to quack conspiracy theories springs to mind.
"What, exactly, were those beliefs that should make them exempt from vaccination? “They object on religious grounds to all available COVID–19 vaccines because they were developed using cell lines derived from aborted children.”
That. Is. Not. A. Thing, as NBC News explains.
Pfizer and Moderna used fetal cell lines early in their Covid vaccine development to test the efficacy of their formulas, as other vaccines have in the past. The fetal tissue used in these processes came from elective abortions that happened decades ago. But the cells have since replicated many times, so none of the original tissue is involved in the making of modern vaccines.
So it is not true that Covid vaccines are manufactured using fetal cell lines, nor do they contain any aborted cells."
Yes, but they believe that they do, and what they believe is what matters, not what is real.
It’s a stupid argument, but it seems like the cells are derived from aborted fetuses. That none of the original cells are still in there doesn’t make it false.
Yes, but even still, they are not containing those cells.
Absolutely, and I’m certain that most of the people upset about it don’t know they are derived cells, as opposed to fresh off the floor of the nearest Planned Parenthood.
That said, if you are morally opposed to abortion because it is murder, using even derived cells is an issue similar to the quandary around using medical breakthroughs/knowledge derived from Nazi studies on concentration camp victims.
A quandary that in my ~60 years on this rock I have never seen brought up.
I saw a recent picture of him and, if he gets any heavier or more pasty looking, he’ll look like Jabba the Hutt. Perhaps he’ll solve the “Thomas led Supreme Court” problem for us.
I’ve definitely heard that particular moral quandary before, but AIUI, its more of a hypothetical than an actual ethics question, as the Nazi “experiments” were completely useless from a scientific experiment.
Yeah, it’s the Unit 731 stuff that actually produced results . . . that no one in their right mind would ignore despite the horrific way that knowledge was gained.
Given that, I think that if, say, they managed to cure cancer, I imagine we wouldn’t ignore that cure.
Similarly, Clarence Thomas is an out-of-touch conspiracy theorist who is married to a seditionist. It’s stunning how much power he and she have in this country.
I don’t understand. First you admit Thomas’ claim is true
“They object on religious grounds to all available COVID–19 vaccines because they were developed using cell lines derived from aborted children.”
And follow with
Pfizer and Moderna used fetal cell lines early in their Covid vaccine development to test the efficacy of their formulas
Then you conclude
So it is not true that Covid vaccines are manufactured using fetal cell lines
Logical, this is not.
First, Thomas’ claim is that some people object to the Covid-19 vaccine because it was developed using a fetal cell lines obtained from aborted fetal tissue, which is against their religion. You claim nothing to counter any of that, but claim that the vaccines were not manufactured using fetal cell lines. I guess you can make this work if you squint enough to blur the lines between development and manufacturing, but Thomas wasn’t claiming manufacturing, but development.
Now, if you want to address Thomas’ reason for dissent, you should examine whether those religious beliefs apply to all (or any) of the other medicines that have used fetal cell lines in their development. I suspect, they do not. That is, while some people may claim they object to Covid-19 vaccine based on religious grounds, their objections are likely based on political grounds or, perhaps more likely, prolific application of lies and misinformation.
Clarence Thomas’ career on the Supreme Court has always seem to be to support the adage “It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt,” and if there was any doubt about that in previous sessions, this latest session should have removed all of it. However, be factual in your criticism.