# The Cleveland Browns march to 0-16 thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 27, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773 "2009-09-27T20:37:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/201 "2009-11-09T19:27:28Z")

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Tampa Bay: 28th in total offense, 25th in points per game, 29th in total defense, 30th in points allowed.

Cleveland: 31st in total offense, T-30th in points per game, 32nd in total defense, 28th in points allowed.

I think that makes you worse.

The Buccaneers allow 28.9 PPG and the Browns allow 26.1 PPG… and the Bucs score 16.8 PPG and the Browns score 9.8 PPG. Therefore, if the two teams played, and the universe did not implode due to the unprecedented accretion of suckitude, the Buccaneers would win, negative 12.1 to negative 16.3.

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**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/202 "2009-11-10T01:36:15Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> With Tampa Bay winning, we may be back to being the worst team in the league.

Nov. 22. Circle the date.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/203 "2009-11-15T08:07:01Z")

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Whee national television!

You know what pisses me off? Jerome Harrison is in the final year of his contract, and even though he has always performed well, he never gets a chance. This year he got to start 2 games, in which he put up over 100 and over 140 combined yards, and as soon as Jamal is back we get to feature him running into his guard’s back again.

FFS, Jamal is retiring next year, and we’re in a total waste of a year. Is there any reason at all not to see if Harrison can be the back of the future? We’re going to lose him in free agency at this rate and he’ll go off and be a star somewhere else, and it pisses me off massively. There’s absolutely no reason not to give him a shot.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/204 "2009-11-17T14:24:19Z")

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For this I missed _House_?

They reported that [Josh Cribbs](http://www.cleveland.com/budshaw/index.ssf/2009/11/monday_night_provided_inspirat.html)had feeling when he was carried off the field. The feeling was “Boy, do we suck.”

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/205 "2009-11-17T15:19:37Z")

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I think it was more like, “the longer I stay down, the more likely I am to get an injury settlement so I can go and play for an NFL team.”

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/206 "2009-11-17T15:40:20Z")

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WOOHOO! Go Brownies! That game _rocked_.

So in teh Auction league I was behind by 20.12 points with nobody left to play for either team except I had Baltimore DEF. heh. So I taped the game and “shortied” (FFWD between plays) just the Browns offensive possessions, skipping the Ravens possessions entirely. Took around, maybe half an hour to watch the whole game.

From the perspective of rooting for the Browns to give up fantasy DEF points, they are hall of famers. Sack, sack, interception, pick six, sack, sack, shutout! It really couldn’t have possibly gone better. 21 points is a hell of a lot to expect from a single defense, but by god Brady and the Brownies gave it to me with points to spare. (24 total.) Nice.

No sarcasm at all, I actually felt like I was watching “quality suckage” in the same way you’d watch quality rushing or quality man coverage. It felt like I was watching something good, when in reality it was so very very bad.

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/207 "2009-11-17T18:54:27Z")

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> [@Sigmagirl](#):
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> For this I missed _House_?

That’s exactly what my mom said when I spoke with her this morning.

I don’t know what the Vegas line is on this week’s Lions/Browns game, but I say given the pathetic state of the Browns’ offense, “Bet on the under.”

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/208 "2009-11-17T19:12:05Z")

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For this I missed cramming bamboo slivers under my fingernails?

I watched the game intently last night since I had Rice a RayRay in the Yardage Pool and don’t rightly recall ever being less enthused as a game progressed than by this one. Sorry but the execution was just sad. Admittedly, after Sunday night’s battle this one was pretty much destined for the Butthurt Bowl.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/209 "2009-11-17T19:19:09Z")

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Timed out. Tried to add that Brownie fans deserve way better. I really did feel for them as the camera panning the crowd caught their despair.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/210 "2009-11-17T19:25:37Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Whee national television!
> 
> You know what pisses me off? Jerome Harrison is in the final year of his contract, and even though he has always performed well, he never gets a chance. This year he got to start 2 games, in which he put up over 100 and over 140 combined yards, and as soon as Jamal is back we get to feature him running into his guard’s back again.
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> FFS, Jamal is retiring next year, and we’re in a total waste of a year. Is there any reason at all not to see if Harrison can be the back of the future? We’re going to lose him in free agency at this rate and he’ll go off and be a star somewhere else, and it pisses me off massively. There’s absolutely no reason not to give him a shot.

Is he an UFA next year? Maybe the Browns don’t want to showcase his skills so other teams don’t offer too much money?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/211 "2009-11-18T00:38:20Z")

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No, he’s signed with the Browns for a few more years and he actually likes being on the team strangely enough and (I think) genuinely wants to finish his career here.

Funny pathetic stat: The Browns have no RBs or WRs with a touchdown this year. All the TDs have been special teams, the QB rushing for a TD, or a TE or fullback receiving it.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/212 "2009-11-18T00:42:27Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> Timed out. Tried to add that Brownie fans deserve way better. I really did feel for them as the camera panning the crowd caught their despair.

I liked the sign one guy held up last night: “Baltimore, can you take this team too?”

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/213 "2009-11-18T03:08:38Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> I liked the sign one guy held up last night: “Baltimore, can you take this team too?”

I myself liked the sign that read “At least there’s one team in Ohio that can beat Pittsburgh!” with a big “WhoDey” underneath.

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**Author:** ![ReticulatingSplines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@ReticulatingSplines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReticulatingSplines)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/214 "2009-11-18T04:18:45Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> No, he’s signed with the Browns for a few more years and he actually likes being on the team strangely enough and (I think) genuinely wants to finish his career here.
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> Funny pathetic stat: The Browns have no RBs or WRs with a touchdown this year. All the TDs have been special teams, the QB rushing for a TD, or a TE or fullback receiving it.

Ah, but the fullback IS a RB. Splitting hairs though–you’re right, there are no tailbacks with a touchdown. Crazy…

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/215 "2009-11-18T17:13:22Z")

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So, this Sunday is a huge day. The Browns face the Lions. I wish this were a Monday Night game.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/216 "2009-11-18T17:19:29Z")

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The monumental battle is blacked out in Detroit. They don’t want us to see the empty seats. Who would spend money to watch this mess?

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/217 "2009-11-18T17:37:02Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> The monumental battle is blacked out in Detroit. They don’t want us to see the empty seats. Who would spend money to watch this mess?

No wai! A game blacked out in Detroit?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/218 "2009-11-18T17:51:23Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> The monumental battle is blacked out in Detroit. They don’t want us to see the empty seats. Who would spend money to watch this mess?

Well, it will probably cost the stadium concessions workers a couple of bucks in gas to get there on game day. Does that count?

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/219 "2009-11-18T17:57:21Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> The monumental battle is blacked out in Detroit. They don’t want us to see the empty seats. Who would spend money to watch this mess?

Aint gonna spend any money,but it is the game I plan on watching.

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleveland-browns-march-to-0-16-thread/511773/220 "2009-11-18T19:24:13Z")

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> [@MadTheSwine](#):
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> Aint gonna spend any money,but it is the game I plan on watching.

You’re a big fan of train wrecks and car crashes, aren’t you? 😃

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