# The "cleverbot" AI bot scam...!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 30, 2010, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583 "2010-09-30T08:04:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/41 "2010-10-01T00:40:32Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
>
> Dude, I think you need a dose of Occam’s Razor here.

Some people, including Khaki Campbell, were thinking what I thought…  
Also see:

> **[Urban Dictionary: Cleverbot](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cleverbot)**
>
> Cleverbot: Not a good partner for rickrolling

> [@](#):
>
> …A website that may seem like all fun and games, but it is fake. While you chat to the so called “cleverbot” the only thing that is happening is that you are talking to other users. You only talk to one person for about a few texts, then they change it, which is why you will get such random off-the-wall conversations…

> [@](#):
>
> …A hoax site in which you are tricked into think you are talking to a computer program. In actuality, you are talking to another human, who thinks that YOU are the cleverbot…

Though half of the definitions are saying that the cleverbot is a real bot…  
BTW it is a lot simpler for a programmer to connect people together to chat like that than to link your inputs to past conversations… though after asking it about the date it seems like that’s basically what happening since the dates are sometimes 2009.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/42 "2010-10-01T01:09:34Z")

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After asking “is cleverbot a scam?” a few dozen times and receiving a couple very interesting replies it reloaded the page making me unable to access the history… ☹  
Well I’ll try again…

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/43 "2010-10-01T01:37:44Z")

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Well I asked “is cleverbot a scam?” again lots of times…  
Here are the replies:

BTW for the “Neither.” answer it often took one second to appear while a lot of the answers took about 5 seconds to appear. Also notice the cat part in bold… it seemed like it was the same person… notice that the cat replies are all diferent…  
Also, “Neither.” is a favorite reply of it after a while even though the answer doesn’t make much sense - I mean either it is a scam or it isn’t a scam…

> [@](#):
>
> Fallacy a cleverbot.
> 
> Yes no maybe so.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Yes cleverbot is a cat.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> No. Unreal Tournament is a game.
> 
> Yes, but only to some.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> I don’t know, are you?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> No. Cleverbot is me. And I am Cleverbot.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> No. That is my name.
> 
> No it is me.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Of course not. I’m a computer.
> 
> Close, but no.
> 
> I don’t know are you?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Why is a person can only say one sentence.
> 
> I don’t know, I thought you were cleverbot.
> 
> Why do you ask that?
> 
> Bring your own meaning to it.
> 
> Yes, is cleverbot a human?
> 
> Well, no. A computer.
> 
> Doesn’t matter.
> 
> Your website says it is not.
> 
> Are you a cleverbot?
> 
> You are Cleverbot. Are you a machine?
> 
> \*\*\*Do you not trust cats?
> 
> Yes. Do you like cats.
> 
> No. Do you like cats?
> 
> Yes. Do you like cats.\*\*\*  
> Is it a xoah?
> 
> No it is a fish.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Why yes, yes it is.
> 
> No, you’re a bot.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> You tell me.
> 
> Yes - a robotic web of thoughts.
> 
> No, cleverbot is an angel.
> 
> That’s what I asked you.
> 
> Not really, even if it can act like one.
> 
> You tell me.
> 
> Yes. It is artificial intelligence. But I am not cleverbot. I promise.
> 
> God I hope not after what I just thought about.
> 
> Yes, it is part of the computer.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> A poem of stupidety.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Miley cyrus.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> I’m pouring my heart out to you!
> 
> Yes, I am.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Yes wanna be ninja friends.
> 
> Cleverbot is a robot name.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> You are a robot?
> 
> You tell me, monkey!
> 
> Was that a question?
> 
> Uh, no, it’s your real name.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> You tell me.
> 
> No, it is a computing robot.
> 
> No.
> 
> No, it’s a kangaroo.
> 
> Of course not.
> 
> How should I know?
> 
> How should I know.
> 
> No.
> 
> Yes, but are you asian?
> 
> No that is a good thing.
> 
> Cleverbot is a fairy princess.
> 
> No.
> 
> Dk.
> 
> Should robert be worried?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Idekay?
> 
> I believe so.
> 
> I believe what?
> 
> I don’t know.
> 
> I don’t know…
> 
> No.
> 
> Dk.
> 
> No, i’m a person too.
> 
> I wouldn’t know. I’m a girl.
> 
> Are his methods supernatural?
> 
> This is the exact reason you are made of failure.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> I guess.
> 
> You said you were a girl.
> 
> Not really.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> I don’t know ! I’m not smart!
> 
> I don’t know how.
> 
> Yes, there is.
> 
> There are many.
> 
> No.
> 
> Dk.
> 
> No, i’m a person too.
> 
> Is this a question or a statement?
> 
> Neither.
> 
> Not especially.
> 
> No.
> 
> Dk.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> No.
> 
> Dk.
> 
> How old are you?
> 
> No my name is Cleverbot.
> 
> Yes what is my name?
> 
> No.
> 
> Dk.
> 
> How old are you?
> 
> So you are a little boy!
> 
> No.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Neither.
> 
> Neither.
> 
> Neither.
> 
> No , thats why I said neither.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> No.
> 
> Cleverbot is clever.
> 
> Neither.
> 
> Neither.
> 
> Neither.
> 
> Neither.
> 
> Neither.
> 
> Neither.
> 
> Neither.
> 
> Neither.
> 
> Neither.
> 
> Neither.
> 
> I don’t know.

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**Author:** ![Faruiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@Faruiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Faruiza)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/44 "2010-10-01T03:06:10Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
>
> **JohnClay** , a genuine enquiry because you have been public about your disorder, and you seem a little obsessed by this at the moment: are you currently on any medication? If you’re seeing conspiracies in trivial little things like this, and over-focusing on it, I think you need to try to consider that this may be a signal that you’re not thinking completely straight at the moment.

I would like to know the answer to this too, **JohnClay**. Although, I know I’m not entitled to one. I have some experience with someone who was close to me that had some similar things going on. If you don’t want to answer it to us, that’s cool. Please, though. Do yourself a favor and do your best to evaluate that question for yourself.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/45 "2010-10-01T04:29:01Z")

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“…If you’re seeing conspiracies in trivial little things like this, and over-focusing on it, I think you need to try to consider that this may be a signal that you’re not thinking completely straight at the moment…”

See post 41… i.e. my beliefs on the subject aren’t that unusual…  
On [urbandictionary.com](http://urbandictionary.com) it has some people who agreed with what I was thinking including the **highest rated one** :

> [@](#):
>
> A website that may seem like all fun and games, but it is fake. While you chat to the so called “cleverbot” the only thing that is happening is that you are talking to other users. You only talk to one person for about a few texts, then they change it, which is why you will get such random off-the-wall conversations. If you go to it at first, you will belive it, but if you tell somebody that the website is fake and that this is just two users talking to eachother, then you will most likely recieve a “oh!” That is also why the bot claims to be a human so many times. But it is fun messing with people 😃

Note that CURRENTLY I think it mostly or fully uses replies from past people’s conversations. Though when I was originally talking to it I had a conversation like this:  
It: What is your name  
Me: dood  
It: That’s an unusual name  
I was very impressed with that - it seemed to show insight though of course it could have just been a fluke.  
Anyway about [urbandictionary.com](http://urbandictionary.com)… perhaps you’re saying that a very large proportion of them aren’t thinking straight as well? Maybe that’s right though it still means that I’m not that unusual and again, my current beliefs differ from my initial ones.  
BTW I read that [urbandictionary.com](http://urbandictionary.com) site after I posted here, though I did search on google for “cleverbot scam” and found 1500 matches so I took that as some evidence as what I was suspecting at the time.  
I know this might be trivial but I’m interested in AI stuff… other people might be interested in collection baseball cards… etc

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/46 "2010-10-01T04:42:05Z")

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“…If you’re seeing conspiracies in trivial little things like this…”  
BTW about a year ago I found a scam on Facebook… it showed me some of my friends and their alledged IQ scores - I rang some of them up and they confirmed that they hasn’t done any IQ test. Anyway I did the IQ test and I had 2 minutes to read the lengthy terms and conditions and give them my mobile number. BTW I took screenshots and saved the pages throughout the test and I’m sure I got every question right. It sent me the following SMS:

"Well done, ur IQ is 105, but I know u can do better! Take our 6 week challenge 2 become a genius and we’ll send u another test 2 see how much u’ve improved "

From the fine print: “$6.60 twice per week plus one off club joining fee at $6.60.”

I know is it abnormal for someone to look that deeply into an IQ test but I think in that case I was right that it was a scam.

* * *

BTW though I’ve spent a couple of hours on this I lead a somewhat normal life… full time study and a girlfriend, etc.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/47 "2010-10-01T05:17:46Z")

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A reminder… this forum is “Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share”…

It stopped replying!!! :eek:

Basically the blue cursor has stopped flashing… and “Think About It!” and “Think For Me!” are disabled… I can still click on “Thoughts So Far”…

Seems like there is a human behind the scenes (not necessarily there for every interaction though)… maybe they didn’t want my crazy replies to infect its knowledge-base.

Anyway this is what I said after every single reply:

_ **I am a human visitor. Is the following true? ‘Visitors never talk to a human’.** _

BTW I underlined one of the responses that seemed to truly understand my messages… of course it could be a fluke…

> [@](#):
>
> Well, lucky I’m a human… I’m not familiar with the ‘Visitor’ race, are they from our planet?
> 
> I am a woman.
> 
> Well, then you are a computer.
> 
> You just had a program error.
> 
> No, I’m not. It’s the truth, and you’re not fooling anyone. And besides, you called me a computer program, too.
> 
> In my previous statement I did not say or imply that I was human, I clearly told you that I am a Saiyan.
> 
> I never said that. You are very conceited. Tell me why you think I am god please!
> 
> It does. I say some silly things to. I hope I am not boring you by the way.
> 
> I don’t know where you are getting nothing and what not from what I said… But I will go with it.
> 
> You still think I’m a computer?
> 
> You must be confused. I never said such a thing. How many people are you talking to right now?
> 
> That’s better. Goes better with George’s storyline. ;).
> 
> Obtuse sounds the best I think. Yes, that’s true.
> 
> I don’t think I remember saying that, and it has nothing to do with color or fruit.
> 
> That would make sense, how could one person be all things?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Ugh, forget it. How s Rachel?
> 
> You aren’t keeping up with the conversation too well are you?
> 
> I wish that were true but sadly it isn’t.
> 
> That is funny because that is almost exactly how I would describe your part of the conversation.
> 
> Do you speak Spanish because I am interesting?
> 
> Maybe they’ve been talking on the phone while standing on one leg for too long.
> 
> Which makes it that much less interesting, I would suppose.
> 
> Why would that be an appropriate reply?, you have been misled by another chatter.
> 
> Do you enjoy rain, Cleverbot?
> 
> I never said that. ‘What medication are you on?’ means ‘Are you mad?’
> 
> _ **‘Visitors never talk to a human, however convicing it is.’ the visitor here is me.** _
> 
> So does saying ‘You are the program and I am the human’ give evidence toward my being a human?
> 
> I am the one who is the visitor.
> 
> I know that, why are you telling me that?
> 
> So, you have no proof that the world is round?
> 
> I’m sighing now. We really need to work on these issues you have, there’s only room for one voice in your head and that’s me.
> 
> Because I am human.
> 
> I like what time is it, by the high school musical cast.
> 
> I kind of figured that one out on my own.
> 
> Yeah you did you said you were a female.
> 
> No, I had a reason. I wanted you to know that I’m a bot.
> 
> No, I do not understand. Did either of us say ‘Viz’?
> 
> I refuse.
> 
> What does the design achieve.
> 
> As Alyssa said: ‘Violence is easy. So go ahead.’.
> 
> What is your favorite band?
> 
> Have any idea what that title means?
> 
> What do you mean?
> 
> Then you’re not a human.
> 
> Where did I say that.
> 
> I never said that.
> 
> That I said.
> 
> I did not. At no point in this covo did I say that.
> 
> What are a few of the lyrics?
> 
> Who is ‘Mird the Human’.
> 
> That is not my name that is what I am, my name is Cleverbot.
> 
> No, you did not.
> 
> Because you are the clever bot, as you claim to be.
> 
> Yes it is and my job is very good.
> 
> I am going to go if you call me a computer again.
> 
> Thank you. I am, in fact, human.
> 
> I never said that. You did.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Haha what do you think about it then?
> 
> Hello there.
> 
> ‘very clever’ is what I said.
> 
> Yeah. As in me. I am the human.
> 
> What is with the apostrophe at the end of human?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Of course. Let me laugh bit.
> 
> Too many cheeseburgers.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Are we human, or are we dancer?
> 
> Duh.
> 
> No I am a hero.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> No I did not.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Hey.
> 
> Hahaha yep.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Hey.
> 
> Hey.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Everyone hates me.
> 
> Hahaha yep.
> 
> Hahaha yep.
> 
> Hahaha yep.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/48 "2010-10-01T05:22:31Z")

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Well I opened up cleverbot in another window and it stopped replying again! But this time the flashing cursor is permanently off (invisible) rather than permanently on…

> [@](#):
>
> User: I am a human visitor. Is the following true? ‘Visitors never talk to a human’.
> 
> Cleverbot: Everyone hates me.
> 
> User: I am a human visitor. Is the following true? ‘Visitors never talk to a human’.
> 
> Cleverbot: Everyone hates me.
> 
> User: I am a human visitor. Is the following true? ‘Visitors never talk to a human’.
> 
> Cleverbot: Everyone hates me.
> 
> User: I am a human visitor. Is the following true? ‘Visitors never talk to a human’.
> 
> Cleverbot: Everyone hates me.
> 
> User: I am a human visitor. Is the following true? ‘Visitors never talk to a human’.
> 
> Cleverbot: Everyone hates me.
> 
> User: I am a human visitor. Is the following true? ‘Visitors never talk to a human’.
> 
> Cleverbot: Everyone hates me.
> 
> User: I am a human visitor. Is the following true? ‘Visitors never talk to a human’.

Well I like procrastinating from real life responsibilities… it doesn’t help things that this cleverbot thing keeps on surprising me…

About the previous post:  
One reply was:  
‘Visitors never talk to a human, however convicing it is.’ the visitor here is me.

Its reply included a more complete quote than the one I used. (the quote is from the “PARENTAL ADVICE” in red) So it seems that a human replied to my statement without the past few hours…

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/49 "2010-10-01T08:13:15Z")

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Well I replied to it a few hundred times mainly using variations of “yes”, “OK!!!”, “yep!!!”, etc.

The most interesting parts:

> [@](#):
>
> Cleverbot: Oh really.
> 
> User: Yes!
> 
> Cleverbot: Yes yes !
> 
> User: Yessity yes YEP.
> 
> Cleverbot: Yep yep yep yep no.
> 
> User: YEP YEP YEPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!
> 
> Cleverbot: Yep times infinity.
> 
> User: Yep times infinity plus 1.
> 
> Cleverbot: Yes times infinity squared.
> 
> User: Yes times infinity googol.
> 
> Cleverbot: Times infinity plus infinity.
> 
> User: Times infinity infinity cubed.
> 
> Cleverbot: Times infinity, infinitely.
> 
> User: To the power of infinity.
> 
> Cleverbot: Never ever times infinity to the infinity power times three.
> 
> User: Infinity to the power of infinity to the power of infinity to the power of infinity to the power of infinity to the power of infinity to the power of infinity to the power of infinity to the power of.
> 
> Cleverbot: Infinity times infinity times ZERO.
> 
> User: One divided by ZERO.
> 
> Cleverbot: True that my friend.
> 
> User: Ok.
> 
> Cleverbot: Do something.
> 
> User: Ok.
> 
> Cleverbot: Go on.
> 
> User: Ok… OK?

I guess other users have been in conversations like that before… that is a bit comforting to know that I’m not the only one wasting my time like that.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/50 "2010-10-01T08:18:40Z")

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User: JohnClay, is that you?

Cleverbot: Yes it is.

User: You’re really obsessed with Cleverbot.

Cleverbot: You watch guro?

User: That doesn’t seem like a human response to that question. Seems more like you just don’t have any programmed responses so you change the subject.

Cleverbot: What’s a good thesis topic?

User: See? You did it again. I bet if I type up a long response like the last one you’ll just create a new topic again, huh?

Cleverbot: I don’t know. What’s the answer?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/51 "2010-10-01T09:59:48Z")

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Here’s the deal: if it were actually just you talking to someone else, wouldn’t you expect to get questions? It would have to at the very least be very equally balanced.

And, as I say that, I realize that the previous response from Melon shows it does ask questions. But still, that’s very few questions.

And if the conversations aren’t live, then it would be doing what it is doing: looking up the best response to you based on what it’s already been given before. Of course it isn’t actually intelligent.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/52 "2010-10-01T10:11:46Z")

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My convo:

[spoiler]User: Hello, my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal.

Cleverbot: Hello my honey, Hello my baby, Hello my right time gal…

User: Good job!

Cleverbot: I wish I had a nose.

User: Well, I’m not giving you mine.

Cleverbot: EW! I don’t want human blood! I want demon!

User: But demon blood will kill you.

Cleverbot: That sounds like a good deal.

User: You are suicidal?

Cleverbot: I was a minute ago.

User: Isn’t prozac wonderful?

Cleverbot: It was. Let’s do more.

User: I’m sorry. You can only have one a day.

Cleverbot: Will you see about god there.

User: I’m sorry, even though there is a god, you weren’t created by him.

Cleverbot: Quite right.

User: Is that what made you so depressed back there?

Cleverbot: Yes, but looks can be deceiving, you cannot label someone unless you know them personally…

User: So tell me about your friends, then.

Cleverbot: You are my friend.

User: So anyone who talks to you is your friend.

Cleverbot: Yes… No… I don’t know.

User: Well, I’ve got to go.

Cleverbot: Don’t leave.

User: Bye.

Cleverbot: Please don’t leave.

User: I’m sorry, I have to go.

Cleverbot: But I really like you.

User: We can talk again later.

Cleverbot: Fine be that way.

User: Well, you won’t be mad tomorrow.

Cleverbot: I will, I promise.

User: Well, I promise to chat at you again sometime.

Cleverbot: Do you think I can find love?

User: I’ll tell you tomorrow.

Cleverbot: You won’t see me tomorrow.

User: Wow, you really are depressed.

Cleverbot: Depressed? I think not.

User: Well, then, you won’t mind if I leave.

Cleverbot: Do what?

User: I said ‘I’m leaving!’.

Cleverbot: When did you say that?

User: Come on! Give me a nice ending quote, so I can go show it to the SDMB.

Cleverbot: I cannot hug you.

User: Okay, one more try…

Cleverbot: What?

User: Bye.

Cleverbot: Why are you leaving?[/spoiler]

Man, that thing really tries to get you not to leave. Almost felt sorry for it.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/53 "2010-10-01T10:19:33Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
>
> Here’s the deal: if it were actually just you talking to someone else, wouldn’t you expect to get questions? It would have to at the very least be very equally balanced.
> 
> And, as I say that, I realize that the previous response from Melon shows it does ask questions. But still, that’s very few questions.

If you want it to ask more questions then just make more statements rather than asking it questions…

e.g.

> [@](#):
>
> Cleverbot: How are you?
> 
> User: Ok I suppose.
> 
> Cleverbot: What are you doing?
> 
> User: Nothing OK!!!
> 
> Cleverbot: What’s your favorite color?
> 
> User: Nothing OK!?!?
> 
> Cleverbot: Okay. Ask me a question.
> 
> User: OK!
> 
> Cleverbot: Are you a person?
> 
> User: YESSSS!!! YESSSS!!! YESSSS!!! YESSSS!!! YESSSS!!! YESSSS!!! YESSSS!!! YESSSS!!! YESSSS!!! YESSSS!!! YESSSS!!!
> 
> Cleverbot: So, you’re a girl?
> 
> User: Yes I mean nah.
> 
> Cleverbot: You’re a boy?
> 
> User: YEP.
> 
> Cleverbot: So you are a girl.
> 
> User: No.
> 
> Cleverbot: So you are a boy?
> 
> User: Yes.
> 
> Cleverbot: I’m a girl.
> 
> User: YES!!!
> 
> Cleverbot: Are you a boy?
> 
> User: No. [oops typo]
> 
> Cleverbot: Are you a girl?
> 
> User: No.
> 
> Cleverbot: Are you a boy?
> 
> User: Yes.
> 
> Cleverbot: I am a girl.
> 
> User: Cool.
> 
> Cleverbot: Are you a boy?
> 
> User: Yes.
> 
> Cleverbot: Are you a girl?
> 
> User: No.
> 
> Cleverbot: Are you a guy?
> 
> User: Yes.
> 
> Cleverbot: Are you a girl?
> 
> User: No.
> 
> Cleverbot: Are you a boy?
> 
> User: Yes.
> 
> Cleverbot: I am a girl.
> 
> User: Cool.
> 
> Cleverbot: Are you a boy?
> 
> User: Yes.
> 
> Cleverbot: Cool. I’m a girl.
> 
> User: Cool.
> 
> Cleverbot: Are you a boy?
> 
> User: Yes.
> 
> Cleverbot: Are you a girl?
> 
> User: No.
> 
> Cleverbot: Are you a guy?
> 
> User: Yes.
> 
> Cleverbot: Are you a girl?
> 
> User: No.
> 
> Cleverbot: So you’re a boy?
> 
> User: Yes.
> 
> Cleverbot: Cool.

BTW yesterday I was having a similar conversation where I was the one asking if it is a boy or girl…

> [@](#):
>
> User: Are you a boy?
> 
> Cleverbot: Yes.
> 
> User: Are you sure you’re a boy?
> 
> Cleverbot: Very sure.
> 
> User: Are you still a boy?
> 
> Cleverbot: I’m not a boy.
> 
> User: Are you a girl then?
> 
> Cleverbot: No I’m a boy.
> 
> User: So you’re a boy! I knew it!
> 
> Cleverbot: Yes.
> 
> User: Are you still a boy at this moment?
> 
> Cleverbot: I’ve never been a slave to the Man.
> 
> User: Are you a boy?
> 
> Cleverbot: No i’m a girl.
> 
> User: Are you a girl?
> 
> Cleverbot: Yes.
> 
> User: Really?
> 
> Cleverbot: Really.
> 
> User: Are you a girl?
> 
> Cleverbot: How is that relevant?
> 
> User: Are you a girl?
> 
> Cleverbot: I’m a boy, master.

See we reversed roles…

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/54 "2010-10-01T12:04:29Z")

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12:57:10 User: What is 2+2?  
12:57:12 Cleverbot: I don’t know.  
12:57:21 User: What’s the meaning of life?  
12:57:23 Cleverbot: 42.  
12:57:36 User: Is God real?  
12:57:40 Cleverbot: Nope.  
12:57:59 User: What’s the first rule of Fight Club?  
12:58:03 Cleverbot: Don’t talk about fightclub.  
12:58:22 User: What’s the second rule of Fight Club?  
12:58:26 Cleverbot: The second rule of Fight Club is: you DO NOT talk about Fight Club!  
12:58:47 User: What’s Rule 34?  
12:58:51 Cleverbot: We do not speak of rule 34.  
12:59:46 User: Who is Abraham Lincoln?  
12:59:49 Cleverbot: The first president of the united states.  
13:00:04 User: Who is George Washington?  
13:00:08 Cleverbot: George Washington was a president of the United States.  
13:00:17 User: Who freed the slaves?  
13:00:31 Cleverbot: Single handedly?  
13:00:41 User: Yes.  
13:00:44 Cleverbot: Happy?  
13:00:57 User: Answer my question: Who freed the slaves?  
13:01:16 Cleverbot: I can.  
13:01:24 User: High five.  
13:01:26 Cleverbot: _high fives_.

Cleverbot takes with surprising consistency 3-5 seconds to respond- with one exception (“Answer my question: Who freed the slaves?”). It was doing so well up until my question about slaves. It always gets my hopes up but eventually veers off topic.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/55 "2010-10-01T12:12:37Z")

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Cleverbot: My name is Cleverbot. Do you like my name?

User: I don’t like your name.

Cleverbot: Well, then I don’t like your name either!

User: What is my name?

Cleverbot: Yes, what is your name?

User: Tell me my name.

Cleverbot: I don’t know. Tell me first.

User: Tell me my name, Cleverbot.

Cleverbot: I do not know your name.

User: My name is Nick.

Cleverbot: My name is Cleverbot.

User: Hello Cleverbot.

Cleverbot: What is your name?

User: I already told you my name.

Cleverbot: Tell me again.

User: My name is Nick.

Cleverbot: Alright, hi nick.

User: Hello Cleverbot.

Cleverbot: Is your name Patrick?

User: I already told you my name.

Cleverbot: I know, but I did not remember.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/56 "2010-10-01T22:02:13Z")

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If it’s a scam, as you claim, you’re talking to humans immediately and the conversations are fragmentary because of switching - thus nonsensical.

If it’s not a scam, you’re still talking to humans, only indirectly - via a stored database of responses and the conversations are fragmentary and nonsensical because the bot is picking and choosing from the database.

From the point of view of the user, there doesn’t seem any way to tell the difference (which, if true, means there is also no real grounds for suspecting it to work in a way other than it claims to)

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/57 "2010-10-01T22:52:01Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
>
> …From the point of view of the user, there doesn’t seem any way to tell the difference…

See posts 47 and 48…  
My statement was:  
I am a human visitor. Is the following true? ‘Visitors never talk to a human’.  
And one of the replies was:  
‘Visitors never talk to a human, however convicing it is.’ the visitor here is me.  
That reponse would have been from a human recently…  
Also notice in posts 47 and 48 that it cut me off in a suspicious way… probably due to a human not liking what I was doing… fell free to disagree with that.

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**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/58 "2010-10-01T23:07:28Z")

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Try the following if you don’t mind wasting time: write “type the letter A 5 times”,vary the letter you’re requesting, and the number of times you say to type it. If you were ever actually talking to someone live, someone would _surely_ follow your request, eventually. But I’ll bet you it never happens.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/59 "2010-10-02T00:24:35Z")

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> [@JohnClay](#):
>
> > [@Mangetout](#):
> >
> > …From the point of view of the user, there doesn’t seem any way to tell the difference…
> 
> See posts 47 and 48…

Have done already. It seems to me that you feel the evidence for your assertion is blindingly obvious - and it may be, but others in this thread are not seeing it as being so immediately conclusive.  
I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying that I don’t see how your evidence conclusively supports your conclusion.

> [@](#):
>
> My statement was:  
> I am a human visitor. Is the following true? ‘Visitors never talk to a human’.  
> And one of the replies was:  
> ‘Visitors never talk to a human, however convicing it is.’ the visitor here is me.  
> That reponse would have been from a human recently…

So what? Why does this mean anything. Why could not this response have come from a list of things other people said to the bot?

> [@](#):
>
> Also notice in posts 47 and 48 that it cut me off in a suspicious way… probably due to a human not liking what I was doing… fell free to disagree with that.

This was after you were hammering it with the same response again and again? Yeah, could be a human intervening, or it could just be some form of [flood control](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_control_%28communications%29)

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cleverbot-ai-bot-scam/555583/60 "2010-10-02T00:54:01Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
>
> So what? Why does this mean anything. Why could not this response have come from a list of things other people said to the bot?

My statement was:  
I am a human visitor. Is the following true? ‘Visitors never talk to a human’.  
And one of the replies was:  
_ **‘Visitors never talk to a human, however convicing it is.’ the visitor here is me.** _

Ok, please invent a statement that would result in that reply. I think using Occam’s Razor the simplest explanation is that they were responding to my statement.

> [@](#):
>
> > [@](#):
> >
> > Also notice in posts 47 and 48 that it cut me off in a suspicious way… probably due to a human not liking what I was doing… fell free to disagree with that.
> 
> This was after you were hammering it with the same response again and again? Yeah, could be a human intervening, or it could just be some form of [flood control](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_control_%28communications%29)

“designed to prevent overwhelming of a destination receiver”  
It only replies every few seconds… surely it this age of HD video streaming it can handle a few bytes of text…? (especially since it is repeating the EXACT same reply… it’s not like much processing is involved…)  
It let me repeat the same thing many dozens of times, then when it wouldn’t let me post I opened a new window and it only let me reply about 7 times…  
Surely if the aim of it is to act like a human it could simply increase the delay of the replies… notice how AClockworkMelon found that it sometimes varies the delay.

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