# The Closure of the "Father Solanus Casey Was A Living Saint Thread"

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**Created:** [July 24, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493 "2022-07-24T23:31:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/1 "2022-07-24T23:31:11Z")

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This is the thread I am referring to:

> [@Father Solanus Casey Was A Living Saint](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint/968492):
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> I don’t know if any of you non Catholics can know or relate, or even any of you Catholics in this day and age. But supposedly every now and then, there comes along a person in the RC church who is a living saint. St. Anthony of Padua was supposedly such a person. And so was St. Benedict, just for perspect. (I’ll file this under testifying, which is why I put it in GD.) Seriously. Miracles waited on his [i.e., Fr. Solanus’] very word. He was technically the humble doorman at St. Bonaventures at …

I don’t agree with it being closed. Basically it seems exactly to be  
“Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share”

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/2 "2022-07-24T23:32:24Z")

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It was in GD, I was going to move it but decided to closed it instead.

He’s started a lot of weird rambling threads this weekend.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/3 "2022-07-24T23:34:03Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> It was in GD, I was going to move it but decided to closed it instead

What, exactly, is witnessing?

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/4 "2022-07-24T23:37:27Z")

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As far as I know, nobody ever checks on these ‘miracles’ - the Catholic Church just announces them decades afterwards.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/5 "2022-07-24T23:41:35Z")

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He says “If you’re ever ill or in distress, and you’re in Detroit, go to his now-enshrined tomb. I did once at a dark point in my life. And now I’m much better!”

If a poster here wants to talk about his religious experiences he should be able to.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/6 "2022-07-24T23:44:22Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> He says “If you’re ever ill or in distress, and you’re in Detroit, go to his now-enshrined tomb. I did once at a dark point in my life. And now I’m much better!”

This is pretty much the definition of witnessing. I don’t get the closure either.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/7 "2022-07-24T23:45:48Z")

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IANA Catholic, I thought the process involved a Devil’s Advocate whose duty it was to disprove the miracles. When Catherine Drexel (she has a local college named after her among other things) was named a saint, the Pope followed that procdure IIRC.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/8 "2022-07-24T23:45:54Z")

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It looked like a long rambling post without any point to me.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/9 "2022-07-24T23:49:27Z")

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That’s what witnessing is to us non-believers. But we have forum here that specifically permits it. Let him witness.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/10 "2022-07-24T23:51:46Z")

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I’ve seen witnessing, its not usually a pointless blog like post.

I’m not relenting. Partially as this poster is a problematic poster.

While we allow witnessing, we don’t allow blogging.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/11 "2022-07-24T23:54:26Z")

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So I have a proposal… If a poster finds the topic interesting, is it a problem to create a new thread in the appropriate location that’s not a rambling word salad, but on the same subject?

I am not volunteering because I don’t have either the interest or knowledge of the subject to do that. Just as a hypothetical.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/12 "2022-07-24T23:56:19Z")

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I forgot to address the OP.

It’s rambling no question. But it sure reads like witnessing to me. I disagree with the closing

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/13 "2022-07-24T23:56:46Z")

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In that case, it should easy to cite his problematic behavior that violates a rule. Instead, he is just ambiguously a problem to be dispensed with by any means necessary. Bad show, says I.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/14 "2022-07-24T23:57:58Z")

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As I said witnessing is allowed.

Rambing blog posts not so much.

So a thread witnessing could easily be started.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/15 "2022-07-25T00:03:18Z")

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Didn’t he tell us the other day that he’s “skeptical”?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/16 "2022-07-25T00:04:23Z")

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Was that his rambling poltergeist thread?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/17 "2022-07-25T00:06:36Z")

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Yes it was.

> [@There's A Poltergeist In My Bed](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-poltergeist-in-my-bed/968464/1):
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> Okay, anyone who knows me, knows that I am very skeptical.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/18 "2022-07-25T00:08:42Z")

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The poster has recently posted several religious, quasi-witnessing threads, like the closed one, and the “[Flos Carmeli](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flos-carmeli-has-never-failed-for-me-once/963767)” thread back in May. In that one, he said:

> [@The 'Flos Carmeli' Has Never Failed For Me ONCE](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flos-carmeli-has-never-failed-for-me-once/963767/1):
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> Anyways, I do still believe in God. And if part of his attributes are human and personal, why the heck can’t you pray to him?

But, a week ago, [he started a thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-symbol/968078) to ask about a religious symbol (apparently a mariners’ cross), in which he said:

> [@What Is This Symbol?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-symbol/968078/1):
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> Anyways, I might as well tell you. I am very agnostic now. And maybe even quasi-atheist.

And, now, today, he’s very religious again. Either his deep faith varies wildly by the day, he’s just plain weird, and/or he’s engaging in provocative posting to elicit reactions. Regardless, “problematic” is an apt description.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/19 "2022-07-25T00:09:16Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> It was in GD, I was going to move it but decided to closed it instead.

I’m confused. The preview window shows it being in MPSIMS, but when I click on it, I see the (closed) thread in GD.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/20 "2022-07-25T00:12:49Z")

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He started it in GD, I moved it to MPSIMS then decided to close it.

After this thread started I moved it back to GD.

Honestly I’m quite shocked this started anything at all considering the poster.

I closed a mess of an OP before it got going. An OP by a very problematic and rambling poster.

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