# The Closure of the "Father Solanus Casey Was A Living Saint Thread"

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**Created:** [July 24, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493 "2022-07-24T23:31:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/21 "2022-07-25T00:13:26Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> As far as I know, nobody ever checks on these ‘miracles’ - the Catholic Church just announces them decades afterwards.

> [@DocCathode](#):
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> IANA Catholic, I thought the process involved a Devil’s Advocate whose duty it was to disprove the miracles.

OK, the “Devil’s Advocate” as such is gone now but, yes, in modern-era official canonizations (as opposed to popular devotions) there _ **is** _ a “due process” to get there – it has been discussed in threads of the past and is not the subject for this one so I leave it at that.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/22 "2022-07-25T00:42:20Z")

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I have to side with the rabble on this one. It’s not like we haven’t had rambling posters before. And this one started his very polite ramble in the appropriate forum.

> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I closed a mess of an OP before it got going.

Why not give the benefit of the doubt to the OP and the people who would respond? It can always be closed if it actually trainwrecks.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/23 "2022-07-25T01:26:59Z")

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With apologies to the dissenters, but I’m with @What_Exit on this one. It was certainly not GD material, and though we have lots of silly stuff in MPSIMS, it’s intentionally – and often creatively – silly, and serves a purpose, however trite it might be. This post was just the typical incoherent nonsense we see from this poster.

I could say more, but there is a Pit thread in which more has indeed been said. Reading through it certainly gives context to those who might be unfamiliar with this particular landscape.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/24 "2022-07-25T01:34:24Z")

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I also agree with the moderation. Encouraging his odd posting style doesn’t help the board, or the poster.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/25 "2022-07-25T06:19:33Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Honestly I’m quite shocked this started anything at all considering the poster.

This makes it sound like you have a personal dislike for the poster, which is not a good look or a good reason to close a thread.

I also think this is absolutely witnessing, not blogging, and is allowed in that forum. He even asks for other peoples experiences. I think you should open it back up. If it goes nowhere, it will disappear soon enough.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/26 "2022-07-25T06:53:49Z")

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I can’t believe that I actually agree with you on an issue.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/27 "2022-07-25T07:08:57Z")

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> [@mordecaiB](#):
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> This makes it sound like you have a personal dislike for the poster,

To you. To me it merely sounds like WE? has an awareness of both this poster’s _modus operandi_ and the community’s perception of same. You know, _good_ moderation.

Having said that, FWIW, I (sort-of, see next para) disagree with the moderation. There’s no requirement that witnessing be coherent. And that was definitely a witnessing thread.

Now, if the OP is vacillating between Catholic and atheist in every second thread, that does start to smack of some underlying issue akin to trolling, but that one thread is still just a witnessing thread. The underlying problem should be moderated based on that, but the thread shouldn’t be moderated on something that isn’t the case.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/28 "2022-07-25T10:04:28Z")

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Ditto.

I think this poster should be on a very short leash in terms of what he contributes to the board.

This specific thread topic was more nonsense, beyond the scope of witnessing, and I agree with its closure.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/29 "2022-07-25T10:50:51Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> If a poster here wants to talk about his religious experiences he should be able to.

Obviously.

But of course, many people are no longer so civil.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/30 "2022-07-25T11:19:46Z")

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> **[3 Ways to Speak in Tongues - wikiHow](https://www.wikihow.com/Speak-in-Tongues?amp=1)**
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> Some people believe that speaking in tongues is a powerful way to pray and allow God to flow through your spirit. However, if you're like most people, you probably don't entirely know how to perform this particular prayer method....

Which is the correct forum for speaking in tongues?

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/31 "2022-07-25T12:08:28Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> I think this poster should be on a very short leash in terms of what he contributes to the board.
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> This specific thread topic was more nonsense, beyond the scope of witnessing, and I agree with its closure.

Exactly this.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/32 "2022-07-25T12:47:01Z")

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Same.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/33 "2022-07-25T13:46:32Z")

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How was this thread “_beyond_ witnessing”? It was the same statement of belief (in whatever flavour of woo) and invitation for agreement as any other witnessing thread. It even had the bonus factual inaccuracies (no Vatican website? Ha!) of a classic witnessing.

The only thing is, we don’t get any others any more, so you’ve all forgotten what they can be like.

That, and it’s this particular poster. But if that were a new poster, it would be considered just a bog-standard low-effort drive-by witnessing.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/34 "2022-07-25T13:48:42Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> To me it merely sounds like WE? has an awareness of both this poster’s _modus operandi_ and the community’s perception of same. You know, _good_ moderation.

FWIW, [the poster’s odd behavior got him banned from the interesting random fact thread.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across/851674/4699)

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/35 "2022-07-25T17:01:46Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> I think this poster should be on a very short leash in terms of what he contributes to the board.

Eh, he’s harmless. He’s not running around spewing sexist, racist crap all over the board. Just use ignore if he bothers you so much. Much better solution than closing all his threads because you don’t like them.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/36 "2022-07-25T17:03:43Z")

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Other than this one: [Kudos To Elton John](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-to-elton-john/963951)

Or this one: [Celebrities Who Act Gay But DEFINITELY Aren't?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-who-act-gay-but-definitely-arent/957253)

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/37 "2022-07-25T17:05:26Z")

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Actually he was spouting cringy anti-gay stuff despite saying he is gay. He was actually topic banned. He has earned topic bans & thread bans. He also seems to change his backstory quite often. So no, I do watch him more carefully, especially when he posts in GD.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/38 "2022-07-25T17:16:05Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Actually he was spouting cringy anti-gay stuff despite saying he is gay.

Are you saying you don’t think he’s gay? Or that gay people shouldn’t talk about bad things some gay people do? So what if he’s a little off from the norm.

If he has a thread that violates a rule, I don’t mind if you close it. But witnessing is specifically allowed in that forum. Asking people to talk about living saints is not blogging, it’s witnessing. Maybe you need to be more specific in the rule if you only allow certain kinds of witnessing.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/39 "2022-07-25T17:20:03Z")

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He may not be gay, his backstory shifts often.

I feel his OP violated the no blogging rules. Rambling threads in GD do get closed. That was more a rambling story than witnessing in my opinion. And no, we’re no changing rules over this.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/40 "2022-07-25T17:33:10Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> He may not be gay, his backstory shifts often.

Has he ever said he’s not gay? And many people have a complex relationship with their religion or lack of it.

Can you explain exactly what it was about this OP in particular made it not witnessing? Rambling really isn’t much help. IMHO, all witnessing is rambling.

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