# The Closure of the "Father Solanus Casey Was A Living Saint Thread" **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 24, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493 "2022-07-24T23:31:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/121 "2022-07-29T11:09:12Z")
> [@Jim\_B](#): > > Yet he uses terms like “rambling” to describe my threads. I always assumed you to be an Allman Brothers fan. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/122 "2022-07-29T15:20:00Z")
Slight tweak to About Great Debates. > [@About the Great Debates category](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-great-debates-category/911003): > > For long-running discussions of the great questions of our time. This is also the place for religious debates. Other discussion of religion, religious figures, personal beliefs and the like typically belongs in the IMHO or MPSIMS forums. Moderators : @raventhief@What_Exit@Aspenglow Threads like the one that started this thread now do not belong in GD officially. This is largely in accordance with the changed to GD put in place 2.5 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/123 "2022-07-29T16:31:53Z")
Great change. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/124 "2022-07-29T17:03:45Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Threads like the one that started this thread now do not belong in GD officially. This is largely in accordance with the changed to GD put in place 2.5 years ago. Thank you! So very sensible. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_B](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jim_b/32/4338_2.png) [@Jim\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_B)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/125 "2022-07-29T17:09:19Z")
@Guinastasia Your reference is an ironic one, because that would be the only time my “bigotry” on the subject was direct then. All other instances were said to be indirect and implied. I’m not expressing an opinion, just pointing out a fact. And I am just replying to your post, too. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/126 "2022-07-29T17:10:43Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Slight tweak to About Great Debates. Thank you! A very welcome change for the better! ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/127 "2022-07-29T17:21:35Z")
Good rule change. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_B](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jim_b/32/4338_2.png) [@Jim\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_B)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/128 "2022-07-29T19:03:58Z")
@Atamasama Where/who are these other “rambling trolls”? Please post some examples 🙂 . (I am genuinely curious.) ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/129 "2022-07-29T19:06:25Z")
WRT that particular thread: is it time to move the retroactively noncompliant thread into a newly-more-appropriate forum? Or will it be treated as a debatable proposition? Since it no longer has status in GD. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/130 "2022-07-29T19:11:18Z")
I thought I moved it already. I just checked, I did. It is in IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/131 "2022-07-29T19:14:00Z")
Sorry, I didn’t look and if you announced it I missed it. Good job. It seems reasonable that “witnessing” is treated as just another form of expressing an opinion, even if deeply held. That happens on a lot of topics, not just religion, and religion shouldn’t get any particular pass. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/132 "2022-07-29T19:18:21Z")
**Moderator Note** > [@Jim\_B](#): > > Where/who are these other “rambling trolls”? Please post some examples Accusations of trolling are not permitted outside of the Pit, so let’s not go there. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/133 "2022-07-29T19:23:50Z")
Except by Mods. And we’re encouraged to avoid it except as a prelude to suspension or banning. I will avoid it going forward. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/134 "2022-07-29T19:24:21Z")
Well that rule change has made the atheists happy. Mind you, I was never fond of it myself. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/135 "2022-07-29T19:27:22Z")
Split this topic on July 29, 2022, 7:27pm UTC A post was merged into an existing topic: [Pitting Jim\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/215) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/138 "2022-07-29T19:39:51Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Well that rule change has made the atheists happy. I think you’re really missing the point here. This has nothing to do with atheism or religion. Speaking for myself, as someone who in this thread has been arguing for just this sort of rule change, the problem has been that the rule allowing “witnessing” has been used to permit all kinds of crazy nonsense threads in GD that would never have otherwise been allowed. Debates about religion have always been just fine and still are just fine, as long as they conform to the standards of GD, and if it’s some other kind of religious discussion, it can go in the appropriate forum. And if it’s the kind of crazy nonsense that was previously allowed under the rule of “witnessing”, it doesn’t belong anywhere on this board at all. Some of the crap we’ve had to endure in GD under the “witnessing” rule has been tedious and downright embarrassing. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/139 "2022-07-29T19:44:18Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I think you’re really missing the point here. Nice taking things out of context. > [@DrDeth](#): > > Mind you, I was never fond of it myself. And I think you missed my point also. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/140 "2022-07-29T19:50:37Z")
Why do you insist on starting an argument? There’s nothing about this rule change that “has made the atheists happy”. That’s all. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/141 "2022-07-29T19:55:53Z")
This isn’t the place for arguments. That’s down the hall. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493/142 "2022-07-29T20:37:28Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > There’s nothing about this rule change that “has made the atheists happy”. That’s all. I mean, it probably makes most of the members of the board happy, including the atheists, so he’s not _wrong_. Just the way he phrased it implies that it is at the cost of the theists. If that’s not what he meant, then I think we are all in agreement, and it was just poorly stated on his part. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-closure-of-the-father-solanus-casey-was-a-living-saint-thread/968493.md?page=8)