# The Clown Show is coming to town

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 16, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785 "2017-08-16T12:11:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/1 "2017-08-16T12:11:52Z")

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According to [this article,](http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/15/california-right-winger-behind-charlottesville-violence/) they’re bringing the snowflake battalion to my neck of the woods.

I would like to suggest that those on the left who choose to show up, show up with lots of extra clowns. Because I suspect the alt-right clowns won’t be very funny.

And good luck with them finding any actual “Marxists” to be “anti,” because the last time I saw one of those was long about 1975.  
\*(Hey! Snazzy idea for re-branding yourselves to avoid being called “White Supremacists,” though!)  
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Honestly, are these people getting their worldview/ideology from well-preserved old magazines or something?

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/2 "2017-08-16T14:05:21Z")

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More of a rant than debate. Moved from GD to the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/3 "2017-08-16T14:35:04Z")

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Well that’s reassuring to know that Nathan Domingo, the primary organizer of the Charlottesville and San Jose rallies, had been charged with robbery, and has major PTSD.  
What can go wrong?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/4 "2017-08-16T14:36:14Z")

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Gathering in the most left-wing hippy place on earth? Well, they’re definitely looking to bring their message to people beyond their typical audience. Expanding their target audience by leaving their comfort zone. Looking to organize an untapped group.

Or maybe they’re just looking to stomp some liberal skulls. Fuck these trolls.

I see they’re narrowing their message into an “Us vs. Marxist/Commie/Socialist” thing; that’s worrisome. That might be somewhat effective for recruiting blue-collar low-education working-class/poor people to their cause. Gives latent racists something of a cover in joining with the white nationalists. “We’re just trying to protect our nation from the commies!”

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/5 "2017-08-16T16:00:02Z")

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I wish the antifas would stay home this time. Violent confrontation is exactly what these people want. If you are being yelled and hated it proves that you are powerful and are fighting a just war against a mighty foe. Or as the Daily Stormer said [(SFW Washington post link)](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hatred-doesnt-have-to-be-taught/2017/08/15/c2a24ba6-81e3-11e7-902a-2a9f2d808496_story.html?utm_term=.1556e5801787)

[QUOTE=Daily Stormer website]

“Random girls will want to have sex with you. Because you’re the bad boys. . . . Every girl on the planet wants [you] now.”  
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Speaking of clowns I think ridicule might be a better way to confront these people. More things like[this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZdj_7dTfCs). Also it is much easier to keep the sense of power and purpose going when your speech about the importance of white heritage is interrupted by angry shouts than when it is interrupted by thousands of counter protesters singing in unison a rousing rendition of the Oscar Meier Weiner song. It also doesn’t make as good footage for your facebook page. The emotion we should be pushing on them is shame and humiliation, not righteous indignation.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/6 "2017-08-16T16:19:18Z")

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I agree about the shame and humiliation. It’s just hard to get tempers down once people have started dying.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/7 "2017-08-16T16:41:06Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I wish the antifas would stay home this time. Violent confrontation is exactly what these people want. If you are being yelled and hated it proves that you are powerful and are fighting a just war against a mighty foe. Or as the Daily Stormer said [(SFW Washington post link)](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hatred-doesnt-have-to-be-taught/2017/08/15/c2a24ba6-81e3-11e7-902a-2a9f2d808496_story.html?utm_term=.1556e5801787)  
> Speaking of clowns I think ridicule might be a better way to confront these people. More things like[this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZdj_7dTfCs). Also it is much easier to keep the sense of power and purpose going when your speech about the importance of white heritage is interrupted by angry shouts than when it is interrupted by thousands of counter protesters singing in unison a rousing rendition of the Oscar Meier Weiner song. It also doesn’t make as good footage for your facebook page. The emotion we should be pushing on them is shame and humiliation, not righteous indignation.

I completely agree.

The only thing better than a tuba would be kazoos - and anyone can play a kazoo. Imagine the hate-mongers facing a crowd of peaceful people playing Ride of the Valkyries on kazoo … badly. (To paraphrase Arlo Guthrie, you gotta hum louder if you want to stop the war.)

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/8 "2017-08-16T17:09:21Z")

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Laying in bed this morning and thought;

I’d like to get well ahead of them, then when they’re about a block away, step on a soap box and using my outdoor voice;

"Ladies and Gentlemen, children of all ages! Get ready for America’s favorite family fun activity! DOX THE NAZI! As our nazi marchers grow closer, please bring out your cameras and be sure to get really good pictures of all of their faces. Share these on social media and with the news media! See these human scum get fired from their jobs, shunned and humiliated by their family and friends! A fun and patriotic activity that will have you and your friends laughing for years to come!

Now folks, as they approach, remember, no violence. Don’t threaten them, don’t throw things, don’t hit them. Just take lots and lots of pictures of these idiots and be sure to share them with the public!

LET’S ALL PLAY DOX THE NAZI!!!"

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**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/9 "2017-08-16T17:16:55Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Speaking of clowns I think ridicule might be a better way to confront these people.

Oh, I totally agree with you! I was serious – I meant the left should bring **literal clowns**. with rainbow wigs and big floppy shoes. And soapboxes. And they should stand on the soapboxes, and wave their arms, and look very pompous and grandiose. Making ostentatious you-know-who salutes and stuff.

Possibly bring some cream pies, which they should constantly threaten to throw, but never actually do. \<snerk!\>

EDIT: OMG **Chimera,** I posted my reply before I read yours. Ha ha! I see great minds think alike.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/10 "2017-08-16T17:18:56Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> DOX THE NAZI! … See these human scum get fired from their jobs,

One of them already lost his Master Race job at the hot dog stand.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/11 "2017-08-16T18:01:30Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> One of them already lost his Master Race job at the hot dog stand.

Anither one lost his job at a pizza place in Burlington, VT. Who would have guessed the master race is so dependent on tips?

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/12 "2017-08-16T18:25:59Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Laying in bed this morning and thought;
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> I’d like to get well ahead of them, then when they’re about a block away, step on a soap box and using my outdoor voice;
> 
> "Ladies and Gentlemen, children of all ages! Get ready for America’s favorite family fun activity! DOX THE NAZI! As our nazi marchers grow closer, please bring out your cameras and be sure to get really good pictures of all of their faces. Share these on social media and with the news media! See these human scum get fired from their jobs, shunned and humiliated by their family and friends! A fun and patriotic activity that will have you and your friends laughing for years to come!
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> Now folks, as they approach, remember, no violence. Don’t threaten them, don’t throw things, don’t hit them. Just take lots and lots of pictures of these idiots and be sure to share them with the public!
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> LET’S ALL PLAY DOX THE NAZI!!!"

Excellent.

May I propose a costume and supplies for the peaceful protesters:

[ul]  
[li]Camera for doxing[/li][li]T-shirt with “UNARMED PROTESTOR” and/or “NON-VIOLENT PROTESTOR” written in large letters, front and back[/li][li]Propeller beanie hat[/li][li] **No** clown shoes, though: too hard to get your group equipped with shoes that fit, and could be hazardous if you have to run away from violent Nazis and their ilk[/li][li]Kazoo (practice Ride of the Valkries in advance)[/li][/ul]

Seriously, if I were in a city that was facing protests, I would get together a bunch of my friends and would fund purchase of the above supplies.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/13 "2017-08-16T18:29:49Z")

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Alright now, clowning the Nazi would actually work. Ridicule not violence. But, let’s get real. People don’t want to clown they want to fight. It’s more exciting.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/14 "2017-08-16T18:42:01Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Alright now, clowning the Nazi would actually work. Ridicule not violence. But, let’s get real. People don’t want to clown they want to fight. It’s more exciting.

You might, but the vast majority of people have no interest in fighting.

But hey, just keep telling us what kind of person you are.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/15 "2017-08-16T18:50:53Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> But hey, just keep telling us what kind of person you are.

Indeed. There’s less projection at an IMAX multplex.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/16 "2017-08-16T19:00:06Z")

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Neo-Nazi loudmouth Christopher Cantwell, _before_ finding out that the cops are looking for him:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/P54sP0Nlngg/maxresdefault.jpg "Charlottesville: Race and Terror – VICE News Tonight (HBO)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P54sP0Nlngg)

Neo-Nazi loudmouth Christopher Cantwell, _after_ finding out that the cops are looking for him:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/lyeTj002DCo/hqdefault.jpg "American Terrorist Christopher Cantwell bawling his eyes out") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyeTj002DCo)

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/17 "2017-08-16T19:00:09Z")

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I propose we combine the best of the ideas. Clowns on soapboxes leading the crowd in a rousing rendition of the Oscar Meyer wiener song. Followed by “My bologna has a first name, it’s O-S-C-A-R.”

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/18 "2017-08-16T19:05:23Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> You might, but the vast majority of people have no interest in fighting.
> 
> But hey, just keep telling us what kind of person you are.

A person who doesn’t advocate political violence and can read simple sentences. A true monster!!!11!:eek:

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/19 "2017-08-16T19:07:27Z")

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In the nineties, before the KKK rebirth, their march in Austin was met with the much larger “Moon The Klan” rally lining Congress Avenue. Good times.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-clown-show-is-coming-to-town/793785/20 "2017-08-16T20:35:39Z")

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I saw **Clown Show**. My first thought was that this would involve a Presidential Motorcade.

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