# The Coen Brothers' next movie: True Grit **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 31, 2009, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155 "2009-12-31T05:17:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/41 "2010-01-03T06:17:50Z")
> [@drm](#): > > He was also pretty good in Bright Star this year. I totally bought him as a brit. Good movie as well, incidentally. Hmmm. I remember that movie getting some good notices, but I didn’t catch it in the theater. I will have to check it out. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/42 "2010-01-04T16:10:31Z")
After what the Coen brothers did in _ **No Country for Old Men** _, they should probably retitle this film “True Sh\*t”. Keeping my money and looking for the bootleg… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/43 "2010-01-04T16:40:46Z")
“I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!” I don’t know that they _need_ to do a remake, but I’ll see it. Bridges could do a very good job in the Cogburn role. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/44 "2010-01-04T18:39:54Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > I believe, especially after seeing **Crazy Heart** , that Jeff Bridges was born to play Rooster Cogburn. It’s like the Coens waited for him to get old enough and grizzled enough to do the role justice. It would be funny if Jeff Bridges winds up winning a “nice career” Oscar for this film the same way John Wayne did for the original version. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/45 "2010-01-04T18:44:56Z")
> [@drm](#): > > He was also pretty good in Bright Star this year. I totally bought him as a brit. Good movie as well, incidentally. Schneider just won the Best Supporting Actor award from the National Society of Film Critics for his performance. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/46 "2010-01-04T19:28:40Z")
> [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > Schneider just won the Best Supporting Actor award from the National Society of Film Critics for his performance. Yeah, that was a surprise, and good for him! I didn’t even recognize him in **Bright Star** though I knew I’d seen him before. Then **spoke-** reminded me about Lars and Jesse James! I saw Elizabethtown but I don’t remember him. I agree, it’d be nice to see him in the film. I’ll see True Grit at least twice, to make up for ministryman. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/47 "2010-01-04T19:44:31Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > I saw Elizabethtown but I don’t remember him. He was the starry-eyed cousin with the Lynyrd Skynyrd -style band. I really thought Schneider deserved some attention for his work in _Lars and the Real Girl_. All the critical attention focused on Ryan Gosling in the lead role, but I thought Schneider turned in a beautifully subtle performance as someone who genuinely loved his brother, but was embarrassed by him. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/48 "2010-01-04T20:05:46Z")
I’ve been a fan of his since his early work with David Gordon Green (_Goerge Washington, All the Real Girls_), and enjoy that he gets regular visibility on TV now, though I’m sorry I missed the Campion this year. ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/49 "2010-01-06T02:41:27Z")
Let’s just go hog wild on this project… let the Coen brothers pass the project off to Quentin Tarantino, and then we’ll see what it’d become! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/50 "2010-01-06T02:52:09Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > “I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!” > > I don’t know that they _need_ to do a remake, but I’ll see it. Bridges could do a very good job in the Cogburn role. Sigh. No one not presently known as Oakminster should ever be allowed to reprise that role. Hell, swap a badge for a law degree, and I am Rooster Cogburn. In fairness, I could not do it as well as the Duke did, but then again, no mortal could. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/51 "2010-01-06T03:16:03Z")
> [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > Schneider just won the Best Supporting Actor award from the National Society of Film Critics for his performance. Very cool 🙂 I won’t pretend to be a huge expert at the life and times of John Keats but Schneider’s character was a great addition to the story and he did quite well with it I thought. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/52 "2010-01-06T03:29:43Z")
His character starts out as kind of an asshole, but as the movie progresses you realize that he’s just passionate about Keats’ work and doesn’t want anything (even an anything as beautiful as Abbie Cornish) to get in the way. I wouldn’t have minded a(nother) movie about his character. There just aren’t enough movies about passionate but well-intentioned fans. 😃 **Oakminster** , have you thought about community theater? Put on a play and be Rooster! ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/53 "2010-01-06T03:45:10Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > **Oakminster** , have you thought about community theater? Put on a play and be Rooster! I haven’t been on stage since 1992. Don’t really have the time/energy anymore. I did contact the local community theatre group acouple of years ago, but they’re not very welcoming to outsiders. Even though I’ve got a degree in theatre, a semester of graduate work, and a list of credits as long as my arm (acting and technical), they pretty much aren’t going to cast someone in a lead or decent supporting role until that person has done multiple cameos or hours of backstage work for them. I’m not going to commit the time to do something like “Spear Carrier #2”, and I’m done with backstage stuff. Am talking to a buddy of mine about maybe doing an indy film, but at the moment he hasn’t got the money to do it, and I don’t really have the time. If I did have some time, I might start my own group. I did that once, years ago, on a military base. I wanted to direct _Vanities_, so I did. ---
**Author:** ![In\_Winnipeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a8b319/32.png) [@In\_Winnipeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/In_Winnipeg)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/54 "2010-01-06T16:26:46Z")
I also am not a fan of remaking/revising it. If it’s been done already, come up with something new, something original – how hard can it be? Even if they had taken the idea and tweaked it around so it’s a “_True Grit_-type” of a story, that would have been better than a remake. Remakes seldom work, and they very seldom eclipse the original. I think the Coen brothers have finally sold out. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/55 "2010-01-06T17:25:16Z")
> [@In\_Winnipeg](#): > > I think the Coen brothers have finally sold out. Ah, yes! Because everyone knows that making a western with a senior citizen in the lead role is a slamdunk path towards box office gold! I hate unnecessary remakes as much as the next person, but that’s usually because the remake is from a no-talent hack who is simply capitalizing on the name recognition of the previous (better) film to score a few points. Recent examples include _The Day the Earth Stood Still, Dawn of the Dead, 3:10 to Yuma, The Taking of Pelham 123, The Heartbreak Kid, The Pink Panther, The Longest Yard, The Hitcher_ and on and on and on. But the Coens are talented. Not perfect, but always worth watching, and while _True Grit_ is fun, very few people consider it anything more than a charming Duke tribute. And when talented people approach remakes the results can be mixed-to-disappointing (_King Kong, The Bad News Bears, The Ladykillers_)j but also quite good (_Ocean’s 11, The Beat that My Heart Skipped_). So unless this is the first in a long series of remakes that they’re slated to attack, I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they have something original and worthy to add to the film without resorting to the tedious knee-jerk “sell out” hue and cry. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/56 "2010-01-06T21:01:45Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Sigh. No one not presently known as Oakminster should ever be allowed to reprise that role. Hell, swap a badge for a law degree, and I am Rooster Cogburn. In fairness, I could not do it as well as the Duke did, but then again, no mortal could. Don’t you mean “any mortal could”? John Wayne was the Keanu Reeves of his era. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/57 "2010-01-06T21:08:02Z")
Oh, I think John Wayne was a cowboy at heart who lucked out–he got to pretend to be an actor. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/58 "2010-01-06T21:49:55Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Don’t you mean “any mortal could”? John Wayne was the Keanu Reeves of his era. Nobody is going to seriously argue that the Duke was a great actor, but in that role, he was absolutely perfect. I’m only aware of one role where he was basically unwatchable (the one where he played Genghis Kahn). As a cowboy or a soldier, he was generally at least decent, and often pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/59 "2010-01-06T22:27:40Z")
They’re not remaking the movie anyway, they’re filming a more faithful adaptation of the book. > [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > Recent examples include …Dawn of the Dead, 3:10 to Yuma Hey! The first 10+ minutes of the recent **Dawn of the Dead** are considered by some, me for instance, as among the best of any horror movie ever. Ok, so the rest wasn’t anywhere near as good, but oh that beginning! And besides, any movie that casts Sarah Polley in the lead has at least some smarts behind it. And I thought **3:10 to Yuma** was a very very very good movie. I’ll take Christian Bale, Russell Crowe, Peter Fonda and Ben Foster in anything, any day. If nothing else, it introduced the world to Ben Foster. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155/60 "2010-01-06T22:28:06Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Don’t you mean “any mortal could”? John Wayne was the Keanu Reeves of his era. I don’t think anyone could watch his performances in _The Cowboys_ and _The Shootist_ and continue to believe that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coen-brothers-next-movie-true-grit/523155.md?page=4)