# The Coming JiffyPocalypse

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 4, 2013, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442 "2013-12-04T05:52:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/21 "2013-12-05T18:24:13Z")

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The way I read this, JiffyPop has been struggling a long time, the company that makes it wants to drop the product, and is using this as an excuse. If they actually wanted to, they could reformulate just as easily as any other food.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/22 "2013-12-05T18:26:53Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> I will tell you but you will be sorry. 🙂
> 
> That was a joke, it was a riff on a similar word about what some furries do: [Yiff](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yiff).
> 
> Now you know why on the geek hierarchy furries are at the bottom.
> 
> [The Geek Hierarchy | The Brunching Shuttlecocks](http://brunching.com/geekhierarchy.html)

Oh My God. I’ve graduated to the top of the Geek Hierarchy Chart. But it’s still not at all far from the bottom of the chart. I must restrain my furry tendencies.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/23 "2013-12-05T18:55:03Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Oh My God. I’ve graduated to the top of the Geek Hierarchy Chart. But it’s still not at all far from the bottom of the chart. I must restrain my furry tendencies.

You’ve been published? (And not just self-published?)

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/24 "2013-12-05T18:56:04Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The way I read this, JiffyPop has been struggling a long time, the company that makes it wants to drop the product, and is using this as an excuse. If they actually wanted to, they could reformulate just as easily as any other food.

Actually, ConAgra has said nothing one way or the other about what they intend to do with Jiffy Pop. This whole notion that Jiffy Pop might disappear is entirely _my_ idea.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/25 "2013-12-05T19:02:59Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> You’ve been published? (And not just self-published?)

Check your personal messages

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**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/26 "2013-12-05T19:03:59Z")

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One imagines that the word has already come down from the CEO himself, and even now, the research might of ConAgra Foods is being turned to this one, most urgent question. Teams of popcorn scientists are feverishly testing reformulations, putting immense strain on the supply chains for aluminium pie tins and weird silvery foil that puffs out nicely. The people of ConAgra will not rest until this disaster has been safely averted, I am certain.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/27 "2013-12-05T19:50:43Z")

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As long as my [Jif™ peanut butter](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WrrACFlEgug/TnfeVRABKsI/AAAAAAAABHI/GjekyuWf2xg/s1600/teak+jif.jpg) is safe, I have no worries about the upcoming Jiffypocalypse.

But shouldn’t the word really be Jiffypopalypse?

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/28 "2013-12-05T20:05:02Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> As long as my [Jif™ peanut butter](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WrrACFlEgug/TnfeVRABKsI/AAAAAAAABHI/GjekyuWf2xg/s1600/teak+jif.jpg) is safe, I have no worries about the upcoming Jiffypocalypse.

Looks like you’re safe. According to [Error 404](http://www.jif.com/Products/Details?categoryId=339&productId=954), Jif Natural[TM] brand peanut butter uses non-hydrogenated palm oil, and [Regular Jif](http://www.jif.com/Products/Details?categoryId=64&productId=325) uses fully hydrogenated rapeseed and soybean oil.

Unlike [Skippy](http://www.peanutbutter.com/Products/skippy_creamy.html#), which uses “hydrogenated vegetable oils (cottonseed, soybean, and rapeseed)”. Only Hormel Foods, Inc., knows whether those hydrogenated vegetable oils are fully hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated.

(And when they say “rapeseed”, they probably mean canola. Old-fashioned straight rapeseed contains enough erucic acid to make it taste absolutely awful.)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/29 "2013-12-05T20:13:05Z")

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Those damned Feds can take away my guns, but never my peanut butter! :mad:

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/30 "2015-06-17T20:04:12Z")

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UPDATE: The FDA has made it official. The Trans Fat ban is upon us. Food makers have until Jone 2018 to comply.

Source: [U.S. Bans Trans Fat - Bloomberg](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-16/u-s-bans-trans-fat-in-a-boost-for-palm-oil-and-a-blow-for-pie)

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**Author:** ![stillownedbysetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@stillownedbysetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stillownedbysetters)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/31 "2015-06-17T21:09:02Z")

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You gave me jiffypopoplexy with your first post, but now that I’ve sufficiently prepared for the inevitable, I’ve had a jiffypiphany. I’ll just start popping my campsite corn the old-fashioned way, in a shaker pan.

Next thing you’ll tell me is that they are doing away with the other space age aluminum-wrapped food goodies like tv dinners! 😉

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/32 "2015-06-17T21:28:15Z")

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> [@stillownedbysetters](#):
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> Next thing you’ll tell me is that they are doing away with the other space age aluminum-wrapped food goodies like tv dinners! 😉

Well, since TVs themselves have pretty much given way to Netflix and Hulu, there’s no reason to have dinners attached to 'em, now is there?

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/33 "2015-06-17T22:28:03Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> For us old fogies who grew up in the Pre-Microwave-Oven era – when it was the stovetop, the conventional oven, or nothin’ – you just can’t beat the “heated from below” flavor and texture of an aluminum pan full of popcorn, salt, and partially hydrogenated soybean oil.

The perfect popcorn was what my father made for us to take to the movies – and no, they did not give us the stinkeye. Popper with vegetable oil, a 60s version of this

[![](https://img1.etsystatic.com/015/1/6262900/il_570xN.452852749_60bw.jpg) ](https://img1.etsystatic.com/015/1/6262900/il_570xN.452852749_60bw.jpg)

and you flip the plastic part over, salt a layer, bag it, salt a layer, bag it, repeat.

Our father got a full bread bag full and my brother and I each got a half bread bag full. Or at home, it tasted best from classic Pyrex.

[https://cdn-img-0.wanelo.com/p/c81/cba/372/6eb93e11eac443f4fc03edf/x354-q80.jpg](https://cdn-img-0.wanelo.com/p/c81/cba/372/6eb93e11eac443f4fc03edf/x354-q80.jpg)

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/34 "2015-06-17T23:11:18Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> Popper with vegetable oil, a 60s version of this
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> [https://img1.etsystatic.com/015/1/6262900/il\_570xN.452852749\_60bw.jpg](https://img1.etsystatic.com/015/1/6262900/il_570xN.452852749_60bw.jpg)
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> and you flip the plastic part over, salt a layer, bag it, salt a layer, bag it, repeat.

What, no butter?

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/35 "2015-06-17T23:23:43Z")

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I think its a good idea to ban trans fats. They really serve no good use and obesity is a huge problem.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/36 "2015-06-17T23:29:57Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> I think its a good idea to ban trans fats. They really serve no good use and obesity is a huge problem.

Trans fats don’t apparently contribute to obesity any more than any other kinds of fats do.

They **do** , however, contribute to a greater risk of cardiovascular disease.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/37 "2015-06-17T23:41:16Z")

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About an hour or two ago, I sent a request to ConAgra through their website, asking them about the future fate of Jiffy Pop. I just received this reply:

> [@](#):
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> Thank you for your email regarding our Jiffy Pop Popcorn.
> 
> Part of ConAgra Foods’ ‘good for you’ commitment is improving the heart healthfulness of our food. We already have more than 200 heart-healthy foods -meals and entrées, whole-grain popcorn, tomatoes, egg whites, plus beans and soups. We have proactively worked and will continue to proactively work in this area. We believe we have been and continue to be leaders in making good-for-you food, and we took steps to remove partially hydrogenated oils from many foods in our portfolio years ago, including moving Orville Redenbacher’s popcorn to 0 grams trans fat per serving. We look forward to learning more about the FDA proposal.
> 
> We value your comments and I have shared them with my Jiffy Pop team.

So … if they **do** have plans to discontinue the Popcorn that’s As Much Fun to Make As It Is to Eat [TM], they’re not telling anybody about 'em yet.

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/38 "2015-06-18T00:12:48Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> Trans fats don’t apparently contribute to obesity any more than any other kinds of fats do.
> 
> They **do** , however, contribute to a greater risk of cardiovascular disease.

I can tolerate a certain level of risk and do. Unfortunately for the purpose of this thread it won’t be for popcorn. I am one of those very few and rare people who think hot-air popping makes the best popcorn with a shaker basket/pan over an open fire as second best.

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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/39 "2015-06-18T02:29:23Z")

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[QUOTE=dracoi;16901709\*n my mind Jiffy Pop is “that popcorn you eat when you’re camping.”  
…  
However, I can’t imagine they have much market share left, so this might be the final nail in the coffin for them.[/QUOTE]

JiffyPop goes on all my camping trips, as well as a lot of other niche camping things that a presumably profitable for their companies. I’m not an MBA, but my assumption is that one could make a case for its continued existence as a niche product with a high retail presence in camping-oriented stores (and maybe at double the price).

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2015, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-coming-jiffypocalypse/675442/40 "2015-06-18T04:51:21Z")

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> [@Balthisar](#):
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> JiffyPop goes on all my camping trips, as well as a lot of other niche camping things that a presumably profitable for their companies. I’m not an MBA, but my assumption is that one could make a case for its continued existence as a niche product with a high retail presence in camping-oriented stores (and maybe at double the price).

Good thing I’ve stockpiled about 150 of them in my Garage, then!

I’m getting 'em while I can still buy 'em at Wal\*Mart for US$1.48 apiece.

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