# The Congresswoman with the crazy eyes, part II, crazy in the head **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 1, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420 "2011-05-01T23:36:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/701 "2013-01-10T15:47:29Z")
Shucks, and here I thought Crazy-Eyes had done something entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/702 "2013-01-11T17:52:01Z")
Sorry, I should have posted this yesterday. [Salon:](http://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/bachmann_still_hasnt_paid_her_presidential_campaign_staff/) > [@](#): > > Over a year after she dropped out, Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann has refused to pay five staffers from her failed presidential bid, according to a former top campaign official. Peter Waldron, her controversial former national field coordinator, told Salon the dispute started when former Iowa straw poll staffers refused to sign a nondisclosure agreement that would bar them from discussing any “unethical, immoral, or criminal activity” they witnessed on the campaign with police or reporters Wouldn’t a non-disclosure agreement be something you sign _before_ you take a job or are let into confidence? Wouldn’t holding out on paying someone for services performed constitute per se evidence that the agreement was signed under duress (and therefore wholly invalid)? Any ideas about what the staffers have to say? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/703 "2013-01-11T18:00:07Z")
They apparently say that the story isn’t true at all. ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/704 "2013-01-11T19:11:44Z")
Wow, being asked to sign such an agreement in the first place is a bad sign! “We _might_ be doing some bad stuff later on, see, so we’d really appreciate it if you could, like, promise not to ever tell anybody about it when it happens…” :eek: ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/705 "2013-01-11T19:57:46Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > How would he overpower a man with three hands? Easy – he’d use one hand to grab each of his opponent’s wrists, and the third to go for the thro- . . . wait, this is Gacy, think lower . . . ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/706 "2013-01-11T22:19:00Z")
> [@](#): > > the dispute started when former Iowa straw poll staffers refused to sign a nondisclosure agreement that would bar them from discussing any “unethical, immoral, or criminal activity” they witnessed on the campaign with police or reporters I fail to see how it could be possibly legal for someone to refuse to discuss criminal activity they witnessed with the police. I don’t really think that a simple disclosure agreement would absolve anyone from providing evidence to a criminal investigation. And furthermore, asking someone to sign such an agreement AFTER the criminal activity was alleged (theft of information from a volunteer laptop)… Would this not be criminal consipiracy? You’re demanding that someone withhold evidence of your crime, and effectively giving them a cash payment to shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/707 "2013-01-11T22:24:15Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I fail to see how it could be possibly legal for someone to refuse to discuss criminal activity they witnessed with the police. I don’t really think that a simple disclosure agreement would absolve anyone from providing evidence to a criminal investigation. > > And furthermore, asking someone to sign such an agreement AFTER the criminal activity was alleged (theft of information from a volunteer laptop)… Would this not be criminal consipiracy? You’re demanding that someone withhold evidence of your crime, and effectively giving them a cash payment to shut up. Except the campaign never paid, so that brings it somewhere near the realm of extortion. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/708 "2013-01-11T22:35:52Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Except the campaign never paid, so that brings it somewhere near the realm of extortion. Yes. Rather than paying someone not to talk they are refusing to pay an amount owed unless they promise to shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/709 "2013-01-11T23:43:57Z")
Well, let’s see how well that holds up in court… ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/710 "2013-02-26T20:22:07Z")
[“I didn’t get anything wrong”](http://www.salon.com/2013/02/26/bachmann_i_didnt_get_anything_wrong_in_wh_run/) Ladies and gentlemen, these are JOSH levels of cluelessness. I really like; “the man who introduced her said he wished the Tea Party movement had been “a little more conservative.”" Just let that last bit sink in. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/711 "2013-02-26T22:08:53Z")
From the above link [QUOTE=Bachman] “But in my opinion, that wasn’t feminism, that was Jesus Christ who did that. Because Jesus Christ did more to lift up women… We didn’t need the 1960s to tell us that, all you have to do is read Proverbs 31.” [/QUOTE] I assume she is talking about the second half of Proverbs 31 and not the first half [QUOTE= Proverbs 31 6-7] Let beer be for those who are perishing, wine for those who are in anguish! Let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more. [/QUOTE] But in any case that was old testament, not something Jesus said. The best Jesus did for women was to suggest stoning for adultery was not cool, and letting women wash his feet. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/712 "2013-02-26T23:04:36Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I assume she is talking about the second half of Proverbs 31 and not the first half Bachmann doesn’t make mistakes like that, just ask her. Must be something wrong with your bible. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/713 "2013-02-27T00:57:07Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > JOSH levels of cluelessness. JOSH levels? Google/Urban dictionary isn’t helping here. UD suggests JOSH is a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/714 "2013-02-27T00:58:52Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > JOSH levels? Google/Urban dictionary isn’t helping here. UD suggests JOSH is a good thing. Acronym for a certain trollish poster that I do not desire to have hijack this thread. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/715 "2013-02-27T01:29:38Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > From the above link > I assume she is talking about the second half of Proverbs 31 and not the first half > But in any case that was old testament, not something Jesus said. The best Jesus did for women was to suggest stoning for adultery was not cool, and letting women wash his feet. The majority of scholars have long since concluded, on available evidence, that the early Christian church centered around Jerusalem was very egalitarian regarding the role of and respect for women in their community. ---
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/716 "2013-02-27T02:39:42Z")
What if they said “Jehovah”? ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/717 "2013-02-27T02:48:35Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > From the above link > I assume she is talking about the second half of Proverbs 31 and not the first half > But in any case that was old testament, not something Jesus said. The best Jesus did for women was to suggest stoning for adultery was not cool, and letting women wash his feet. Don’t forget about the oil in the hair, too. That was supposed to be pretty cool back in the day. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/718 "2013-02-27T04:37:08Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > The best Jesus did for women was to suggest stoning for adultery was not cool, and letting women wash his feet. > [@Luke:7:38](#): > > And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment. Some guys would find that stone sexy. Maybe not Jesus, but some guys. ---
**Author:** ![otternell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecc23a/32.png) [@otternell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/otternell)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/719 "2013-02-27T19:07:01Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Acronym for a certain trollish poster that I do not desire to have hijack this thread. Please do us all a favor and don’t use the commonplace acronym if you don’t want their attention. Saw that poster, don’t like. Please do not contaminate good threads with any reference to the acronym. I’m seriously begging you. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/720 "2013-03-26T02:31:30Z")
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