# The Congresswoman with the crazy eyes, part II, crazy in the head

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 1, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420 "2011-05-01T23:36:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/121 "2011-06-30T01:00:49Z")

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And, of course, he has the qualification of actually serving as president.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/122 "2011-06-30T01:45:09Z")

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> [@Linguini](#):
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> She has more qualifications to be President than Obama.

Constitutionally speaking, there are three, as I understand it.

Do you mind sharing which ones you believe she has that President Obama lacks?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/123 "2011-06-30T01:47:13Z")

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> [@C3](#):
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> And, of course, he has the qualification of actually serving as president.

But was he successful in the private sector, like Michelle Bachman, (grasping at straws) who might’ve had a successful lemonade stand as a girl?

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/124 "2011-06-30T02:35:10Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> She’s from Minnesota, she thinks checking is something you do with your hips.

😃 Excellent point (sez this MN hockey fan).

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/125 "2011-06-30T13:31:00Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Maybe she was talking about John _Quincy_ Wayne.

Medical Examiner? From LA? Wasn’t he the guy who wouldn’t wait until they were dead first?

_Chain-saw rip-start_  
“Sam, get me another cup of coffee, will you? Its going to be a long night…”  
“Your face-paint is running Quince…”

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/126 "2011-06-30T16:28:33Z")

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[http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/29/bachmanns-husband-on-homosexuality-barbarians-need-to-be-educated-out-of-their-sinful-nature/](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/29/bachmanns-husband-on-homosexuality-barbarians-need-to-be-educated-out-of-their-sinful-nature/)  
The Bachmanns are a family of idiots. They are ambitious and dangerous. You can not take her run at the presidency seriously.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/127 "2011-06-30T20:23:36Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> [http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/29/bachmanns-husband-on-homosexuality-barbarians-need-to-be-educated-out-of-their-sinful-nature/](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/29/bachmanns-husband-on-homosexuality-barbarians-need-to-be-educated-out-of-their-sinful-nature/)  
> The Bachmanns are a family of idiots. They are ambitious and dangerous. You can not take her run at the presidency seriously.

I think we must take it seriously; she is gathering more and more popular support on a daily basis. I think she has a pretty good chance of landing the nomination although saying that fills me with dread. If she does get the nomination, she just might win. And if she wins, we will be just another dead end country governed by a maniac.

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**Author:** ![Implicit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Implicit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Implicit)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/128 "2011-06-30T20:44:13Z")

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> [@LouisB](#):
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> I think we must take it seriously; she is gathering more and more popular support on a daily basis. I think she has a pretty good chance of landing the nomination although saying that fills me with dread. If she does get the nomination, she just might win. And if she wins, we will be just another dead end country governed by a maniac.

The fact that people are taking her seriously and are supporting her in a nomination bid for one of the two main parties means that it’s only a matter of time before you end up governed by a maniac. Even if she falls short, the foundation has been laid. Batshit insane candidates used to be a sideshow that attracted the support of a few percent of voters, those days are behind you and the freak show is front and center now.

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**Author:** ![Profound\_Gibberish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Profound\_Gibberish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Profound_Gibberish)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/129 "2011-06-30T20:56:35Z")

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Ignorant wackos like her know how to say the things that push the right buttons, but there is no depth to her “intellect” and this will become readily apparent over the next few months. She is not the type of person that is going to attract undecided voters and that is what is needed for the Repubs to win.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/130 "2011-06-30T22:15:40Z")

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> [@dbx820](#):
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> Ignorant wackos like her know how to say the things that push the right buttons, but there is no depth to her “intellect” and this will become readily apparent over the next few months. She is not the type of person that is going to attract undecided voters and that is what is needed for the Repubs to win.

How will the lack of depth of her intellect become readily apparent to her supporters when those supporters have no depth of intellect? If they had any depth of intellect, they would not be supporting her in the here and now.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/131 "2011-06-30T22:34:55Z")

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Bachmann appeals to the Tea Party base, the raving loons, but that’s not enough to get her elected. If she’s nominated (which I highly doubt), there’s plenty of wackadoodle footage of her from past years to convince non-loon Republicans to either stay home or vote third party (or, heaven forbid, vote Democrat).

There’s footage of her hiding in the bushes at a gay rights rally. There’s sound bites of her saying that the U.S. Census is a plot to identify people for placement in internment camps and that Americorps is for brainwashing young people. She thinks teachers are using “The Lion King” to convince children that being gay is better than being straight. She’s given her support to You Can Run But Cannot Hide, a punk-rock ministry that stated that Muslim execution of homosexuals is more moral than most American Christians’ stances on homosexuality. She’s called for McCarthy-esque style investigations into members of Congress to search for anti-American views.

There’s only so long that her surface charisma and appeal is going to tide her over before the true batshit comes out, and once that’s out, she’s done.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/132 "2011-06-30T22:40:54Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> Bachmann appeals to the Tea Party base, the raving loons, but that’s not enough to get her elected. If she’s nominated (which I highly doubt), there’s plenty of wackadoodle footage of her from past years to convince non-loon Republicans to either stay home or vote third party (or, heaven forbid, vote Democrat).
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> There’s footage of her hiding in the bushes at a gay rights rally. There’s sound bites of her saying that the U.S. Census is a plot to identify people for placement in internment camps and that Americorps is for brainwashing young people. She thinks teachers are using “The Lion King” to convince children that being gay is better than being straight. She’s given her support to You Can Run But Cannot Hide, a punk-rock ministry that stated that Muslim execution of homosexuals is more moral than most American Christians’ stances on homosexuality. She’s called for McCarthy-esque style investigations into members of Congress to search for anti-American views.
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> There’s only so long that her surface charisma and appeal is going to tide her over before the true batshit comes out, and once that’s out, she’s done.

You forgot the public declarations of her doctor-husband that all homosexuals are “barbarians”.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/133 "2011-06-30T22:46:19Z")

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> [@jamiemcgarry](#):
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> You forgot the public declarations of her doctor-husband that all homosexuals are “barbarians”.

I actually left that out because I wanted to concentrate on her personal batshit. If I included his as well, I’d be here all day.

Plus, I’m a little hesitant to start including spousal batshit in condemnation of candidates. I’m not sure there was a lot of coverage of Cindy McCain’s or Todd Palin’s personal beliefs during the last campaign.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/134 "2011-06-30T22:50:56Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> I actually left that out because I wanted to concentrate on her personal batshit. If I included his as well, I’d be here all day.
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> Plus, I’m a little hesitant to start including spousal batshit in condemnation of candidates. I’m not sure there was a lot of coverage of Cindy McCain’s or Todd Palin’s personal beliefs during the last campaign.

But it was a public speaking engagement during which he said these things. I consider that fair game.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/135 "2011-06-30T22:52:39Z")

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> [@jamiemcgarry](#):
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> But it was a public speaking engagement during which he said these things. I consider that fair game.

True enough. And I do seem to remember that the media covered Todd Palin’s involvement with an Alaskan secessionist movement.

But again, there’s SO MUCH batshit here it’s hard to know where to begin. Or end.

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/136 "2011-07-01T01:11:57Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> Bachmann appeals to the Tea Party base, the raving loons, but that’s not enough to get her elected. If she’s nominated (which I highly doubt), there’s plenty of wackadoodle footage of her from past years to convince non-loon Republicans to either stay home or vote third party (or, heaven forbid, vote Democrat).
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> There’s footage of her hiding in the bushes at a gay rights rally. There’s sound bites of her saying that the U.S. Census is a plot to identify people for placement in internment camps and that Americorps is for brainwashing young people. She thinks teachers are using “The Lion King” to convince children that being gay is better than being straight. She’s given her support to You Can Run But Cannot Hide, a punk-rock ministry that stated that Muslim execution of homosexuals is more moral than most American Christians’ stances on homosexuality. She’s called for McCarthy-esque style investigations into members of Congress to search for anti-American views.
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> There’s only so long that her surface charisma and appeal is going to tide her over before the true batshit comes out, and once that’s out, she’s done.

Hey, leave the punks out of this. You Can Run But You Cannot Hide is a _heavy metal_ ministry. [More on Bradlee Dean](http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/05/michele-bachmann-bradlee-dean).

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/137 "2011-07-01T17:12:01Z")

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> [@waterj2](#):
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> Hey, leave the punks out of this. You Can Run But You Cannot Hide is a _heavy metal_ ministry. [More on Bradlee Dean](http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/05/michele-bachmann-bradlee-dean).

Many apologies to the punks 🙂

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/138 "2011-07-01T19:22:32Z")

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Heavy metal Jesus. Just not ready for that.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/139 "2011-07-01T19:41:06Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> Bachmann appeals to the Tea Party base, the raving loons, but that’s not enough to get her elected. If she’s nominated (which I highly doubt), there’s plenty of wackadoodle footage of her from past years to convince non-loon Republicans to either stay home or vote third party (or, heaven forbid, vote Democrat).
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> There’s footage of her hiding in the bushes at a gay rights rally. There’s sound bites of her saying that the U.S. Census is a plot to identify people for placement in internment camps and that Americorps is for brainwashing young people. She thinks teachers are using “The Lion King” to convince children that being gay is better than being straight. She’s given her support to You Can Run But Cannot Hide, a punk-rock ministry that stated that Muslim execution of homosexuals is more moral than most American Christians’ stances on homosexuality. She’s called for McCarthy-esque style investigations into members of Congress to search for anti-American views.
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> There’s only so long that her surface charisma and appeal is going to tide her over before the true batshit comes out, and once that’s out, she’s done.

She is, however, likely to do well in Iowa (she was born there and Iowa primary voters tend to be socially conservative). That is likely to let her ride longer than a mere flash in the pan. It also may be enough to sink TPaw long before he’d have gotten sunk without her spoiler effect.

Primaries (and caucuses) are about appealing to the core - the GOP core right now is heavily weighted towards the Tea Party. She may last a lot longer than anyone thinks.

It would be fascinating to see her get the nomination, simply because it would be interesting to see her look for a center that would appeal to independents.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-congresswoman-with-the-crazy-eyes-part-ii-crazy-in-the-head/580420/140 "2011-07-01T19:54:10Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> She is, however, likely to do well in Iowa (she was born there and Iowa primary voters tend to be socially conservative). That is likely to let her ride longer than a mere flash in the pan. It also may be enough to sink TPaw long before he’d have gotten sunk without her spoiler effect.
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> Primaries (and caucuses) are about appealing to the core - the GOP core right now is heavily weighted towards the Tea Party. She may last a lot longer than anyone thinks.
> 
> It would be fascinating to see her get the nomination, simply because it would be interesting to see her look for a center that would appeal to independents.

Didn’t she say John Wayne was born in Waterloo? 😕

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