# The (constructive, effective) disagreement thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-constructive-effective-disagreement-thread/925194>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 10, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-constructive-effective-disagreement-thread/925194 "2020-11-10T03:03:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-constructive-effective-disagreement-thread/925194/101 "2020-11-12T02:07:32Z")

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> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> things I remember from 2016 was the notion that people weren’t voting _for_ Trump but _against_ Hillary. I would have felt much better if they’ve sent him a resounding no this time, like “OK, you had four years and I don’t know what I was thinking but no. Just NO!”

My guess is that many, maybe even most, of those people were lying about that, maybe even to themselves. Had it been someone other than Hillary running against Trump they would have come up with a different excuse as to why they were voting against that person.

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-constructive-effective-disagreement-thread/925194/102 "2020-11-12T02:28:58Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> I don’t know if this will help or not but I found this documentary illuminating.

I finished it tonight. Highly recommend! @Spice_Weasel if you haven’t, check it out.

ETA: [Watch The Brainwashing of My Dad | Prime Video](https://www.amazon.com/Brainwashing-My-Dad-Matthew-Modine/dp/B01C6AFDM6)

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