# The Cosmos: Created , not by chance. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 19, 2000, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cosmos-created-not-by-chance/18133 "2000-04-19T16:46:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cosmos-created-not-by-chance/18133/332 "2000-04-26T15:47:00Z")
[test post] ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cosmos-created-not-by-chance/18133/333 "2000-04-26T16:07:00Z")
Boy, it sure takes a lot of chutzpah to run around for months denouncing nonbelievers as amoral or immoral; then to get caught red-handed lying (which is a violation of one of the Commandments, IIRC) and breaching a contract, then to brag about it. You must need a 44DD cup. ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cosmos-created-not-by-chance/18133/334 "2000-04-26T18:48:00Z")
Anyone want to take bets on how long it takes for **Apologist** to be banned? (Going out on a limb here…) Go away, **pashley** , go away. * * * \>\ \_ **L\_\_\_L** He’s _back!_ ---
**Author:** ![Nen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Nen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nen)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cosmos-created-not-by-chance/18133/335 "2000-04-26T19:29:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by jab1: > Anyone want to take bets on how long it takes for **Apologist** to be banned? I wager to say it has already been done (see Gaudere’s comment in the Goliath thread). > [@](#): > > Originally posted by jab1: > (Going out on a limb here…) > > Go away, **pashley** , go away. Going out on a limb? You’ve got to be kidding. Apologist’s profile lists the location to be Rochester, NY USA; pashley’s profile lists the location to be Pittsford, NY USA. As you can see [here]([http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia\_find?link=btwn%2Ftwn-map\_results&random=937&event=find\_search&uid=u1iev0k2y1glxcle%3Abnhzrn00t&SNVData=njij9-qw7%3bvdduvj%7cl56%2Ccjtsc%](http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=btwn%2Ftwn-map_results&random=937&event=find_search&uid=u1iev0k2y1glxcle%3Abnhzrn00t&SNVData=njij9-qw7%253bvdduvj%257cl56%2Ccjtsc%25) 2528u%2Cf7c3m%25280%2Cc2j%257cx0672u.3rs%253b\_wd672u.q8k8%2529c2j%257cx0472u.q8k8%2529cw8%257c.h472u6%2C3iqcme5%257c%253brom6%2528.gv2js-%2524kdq%2528.xif1m88%253b%2Chxggm-eqej%253 bxmwjs8%2524bcjsol%2540klqr%25280%2Crxhqje%253blibbdf%25245s34l9-&country=United+States&address=&city=Pittsford&State=NY&Zip=&Find+Map=Get+Map), Pittsford is a suburb of Rochester. This guy isn’t even clever about his puppetry profiles. ---
**Author:** ![Nen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Nen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nen)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cosmos-created-not-by-chance/18133/336 "2000-04-26T19:32:00Z")
Well then, seeing as the great UBB doesn’t like me today, check out [www.mapquest.com](http://www.mapquest.com) to see for yourself. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2000, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cosmos-created-not-by-chance/18133/337 "2000-04-28T00:37:00Z")
Is it just me, or does creating a sock-puppet for the mere purpose of getting one’s self banned seem like one of the lamest ways to leave a debate ever invented? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2000, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cosmos-created-not-by-chance/18133/338 "2000-04-28T00:54:00Z")
It’s just you, Doc. \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* \* _ **NOT!** _ 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2000, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cosmos-created-not-by-chance/18133/339 "2000-04-28T18:33:00Z")
what a mess. I hate coming into the debate at this point. But…once you’ve said god created the universe, what have you said? Nothing really. The universe has an extenal source. Maybe. Maybe not. Calling the prime mover “God” does not make him Yahweh, does not mean we know anything about him. I mean “him”. So why all the emotional debate? Mostly seems a question of semantic to me. Just don’t use the word “God”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cosmos-created-not-by-chance/18133.md?page=16)