# The crazy.  It hurts.

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 11, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895 "2012-07-11T14:27:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/1 "2012-07-11T14:27:27Z")

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The other day I noticed a Facebook friend ‘liked’ a 9/11 Truther site. I’ve known this guy all my life. He’s a Birther, a Teabagger, thinks Obama is Muslim Socialist Commie etc. Now I see he’s a 9/11 Truther. Aiyiyiyiyi…

Another old acquaintance is a FB friend. She’s a nice lady. But she’s always posting about conspiracies. A few recent ones are UFOs (space aliens) in the Middle East (pics of missile contrails), 9/11 truthism, and ‘chemtrails’. (I’m really tempted to get a pic of an old aircraft venturi and claim it’s a ‘chemtrail nozzle’. \<EG\>)

I remember when the only CT people talked about was the Kennedy assassination. Now there are so many CTs I have to think to come up with a list.

Kennedy assassination  
Moon hoax  
9/11 was an inside job  
Chemtrails  
Illuminati, Bilderbergers, Freemasons, et al.  
Space aliens/UFOs  
Water fluoridation pops up from time to time.

Which ones am I missing?

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/2 "2012-07-11T14:38:53Z")

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“Anti-vaxxers” - people who think vaccination causes autism or even other weird stuff they do to your body.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/3 "2012-07-11T14:44:22Z")

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[The creation of AIDS.](http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/aids.asp)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/4 "2012-07-11T14:46:18Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> “Anti-vaxxers” - people who think vaccination causes autism or even other weird stuff they do to your body.

Ah, yes. Completely forgot about them.

> [@runner pat](#):
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> [The creation of AIDS.](http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/aids.asp)

I remember that one from the '80s. Haven’t heard anything about it recently.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/5 "2012-07-11T14:47:52Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> “Anti-vaxxers” - people who think vaccination causes autism or even other weird stuff they do to your body.

A variation of this is that polio vaccine is a conspiracy to poison/sterilize fnord [insert ethnic group here]. Don’t ask how they — whoever “they” are — managed to target a specific ethnic group: that just identifies you as part of the conspiracy.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/6 "2012-07-11T14:52:30Z")

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Pearl Harbor

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Holocaust Denial

Another one I see occasionally that has to count:

The idea that “much of modern medical knowledge” comes directly from Nazi pseudo-science experimentation on live human subjects “because that’s the only time it could be done.”

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**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/7 "2012-07-11T14:56:44Z")

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Shape changing lizards running everything?

Or do they just come under aliens… I can never keep track.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/8 "2012-07-11T15:00:41Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Chemtrails

Subcategory: [Contrails are really secret missle tests](http://contrailscience.com/los-angeles-missile-contrail-explained-in-pictures/).

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/9 "2012-07-11T15:01:41Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> A variation of this is that polio vaccine is a conspiracy to poison/sterilize fnord [insert ethnic group here]. Don’t ask how they — whoever “they” are — managed to target a specific ethnic group: that just identifies you as part of the conspiracy.

That crazy particularly hurts, because it’s so damn stupid. Sterilization is a very popular form of birth control all around the world. In a lot of the world, the surgery that is required is risky. Even in developed countries, sterilization requires surgery, and, like all surgeries, it’s not risk-free. If there were an effective way to sterilize people permanently just by giving them a shot, and if it were cheap enough to use in a plan to get rid of some ethnic group, that’s the method that would be used instead of vasectomies or tubal ligations for people who want sterilization. Insurance companies in the US would be all over that like white on rice. It wouldn’t be something that could be kept secret, at least not for long.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/10 "2012-07-11T15:02:14Z")

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Alternative medicine being suppressed.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/11 "2012-07-11T15:14:31Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> Alternative medicine being suppressed.

I know a pediatrician who seems to believe this. She is so full of woo, I wouldn’t believe it was possible if I didn’t know her. At least she is not an anti-vaxxer. And incredibly suspicious of “industrial food” which includes pretty much all the major cereal crops, which she claims are all franken-foods, so modified from their “natural state” that they are full of unspecified dangers.

Of course she is the same person who went to the open house at the Catholic school and got really upset when they told her that Grade 1 catechism would include test where they would need to give answers that matched the teachings of the church, not the new age synth-pop religion she was teaching her daughter at home.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/12 "2012-07-11T15:16:47Z")

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The water flouridation one is the one that pisses me off quite a bit. My parents grew up in a poor country with very little dental hygiene to start with, and of course no flouride in the water. My mother and my aunt both lost their teeth at a fairly young age (i.e, before 50).

I have extremely healthy teeth and I’m sure this is at least partially because of the flouride in the water. It is SUCH an easy fix, yet people somehow think it’s evil.

Well when they start losing their teeth…but that means everyone else in the community suffers, too!

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/13 "2012-07-11T15:19:57Z")

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Flat Earthers.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/14 "2012-07-11T15:24:47Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Flat Earthers.

That one is so crazy, I think they’re just pulling our legs. No one can _actually_ believe Earth is not a spheroid!

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/15 "2012-07-11T15:25:10Z")

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200mpg carburetors  
Gasoline pill

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/16 "2012-07-11T15:34:34Z")

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Milk causes cancer, but the dairy industry is so powerful, it’s kept it covered up. I know a naturopathic doctor that firmly believes this.

I used to know someone who believed that agents killed Nicole Brown Simpson so that race riots would happen.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/17 "2012-07-11T15:36:54Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> That one is so crazy, I think they’re just pulling our legs. No one can _actually_ believe Earth is not a spheroid!

It’s a Jesus thing. I’d not put anything past them.

Related: also see [Young Earth](http://youngearthscientist.com/) and [Intelligent Design](http://www.intelligentdesign.org/).

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/18 "2012-07-11T15:40:21Z")

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> [@Anne\_Neville](#):
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> That crazy particularly hurts, because it’s so damn stupid. Sterilization is a very popular form of birth control all around the world. In a lot of the world, the surgery that is required is risky. Even in developed countries, sterilization requires surgery, and, like all surgeries, it’s not risk-free.

Check this out: a new sterilization technique developed in India involves only a minor incision and then a shot to the vas deferens. Also, it’s 100% reversible. Science is awesome.

[http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/04/ff\_vasectomy/](http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/04/ff_vasectomy/) [possibly NSFW due to picture of a scrotum :eek:]

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/19 "2012-07-11T15:45:44Z")

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The Illuminati runs the world.

Ernie and Bert were really gay.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crazy-it-hurts/627895/20 "2012-07-11T15:50:11Z")

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Oh yeh, cancer had been cured, but Big Pharma is suppressing it because the treatment costs is big money. As if cancer was just one thing, and the cure itself wouldn’t bring enormous profits.

ETA: My eyes appear to be blinded to the word Illuminati, as in the OP. I blame the Illuminati and Jim Henson.

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