# The creation process of the fundamental particles of the atomic nucleus. **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 21, 2015, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-creation-process-of-the-fundamental-particles-of-the-atomic-nucleus/713261 "2015-02-21T14:29:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RTCPhysics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RTCPhysics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTCPhysics)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-creation-process-of-the-fundamental-particles-of-the-atomic-nucleus/713261/1 "2015-02-21T14:29:10Z")
Ever wonder how the first atomic nucleus came into being? The nuclei of every element of the Periodic Table must have arisen from the same process being repeated over and over again, giving the atom’s nucleus both its structure and symmetry. So, do you have a better understanding of the process than this: • The combination of the neutrino & anti-neutrino forms the electron. • The combination of the electron & anti-neutrino forms the Up quark. • The combination of the Up quark & anti-Up quark forms the Down quark. • The combination of the Up quark-Down quark-Up quark forms the Proton. • The combination of the Down quark-Up quark-Down quark forms the Neutron. • The Neutron combines with the Proton to create a stable nuclear pairing. • An individual Neutron decays into a Proton and an anti-Up-quark with the anti-Up-quark further separating into an electron and an anti-neutrino. Like to hear from you. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-creation-process-of-the-fundamental-particles-of-the-atomic-nucleus/713261/2 "2015-02-21T17:01:29Z")
> [@RTCPhysics](#): > > So, do you have a better understanding of the process than this: Did you find this description somewhere, or just make it up out of whole cloth? > [@](#): > > • The combination of the neutrino & anti-neutrino forms the electron. No > [@](#): > > • The combination of the electron & anti-neutrino forms the Up quark. No > [@](#): > > • An individual Neutron decays into a Proton and an anti-Up-quark with the anti-Up-quark further separating into an electron and an anti-neutrino. No Based on your demonstrated lack of ability to grasp basic physics in your previous thread, you really shouldn’t try to reinvent any other parts of particle physics. You’re violating the conservation of charge all over the place in this thing. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-creation-process-of-the-fundamental-particles-of-the-atomic-nucleus/713261/3 "2015-02-21T17:57:24Z")
> [@naita](#): > > Based on your demonstrated lack of ability to grasp basic physics in your previous thread, you really shouldn’t try to reinvent any other parts of particle physics. You’re violating the conservation of charge all over the place in this thing. I really love this message board sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-creation-process-of-the-fundamental-particles-of-the-atomic-nucleus/713261/4 "2015-02-21T18:01:43Z")
I think it goes like this. A combination of a sense particle and an anti-sense particle forms nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-creation-process-of-the-fundamental-particles-of-the-atomic-nucleus/713261/5 "2015-02-21T20:21:16Z")
Given the OP’s choice of username I’d say Shatner was right in _Airplane 2_, “I guess irony can be pretty ironic sometimes…” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-creation-process-of-the-fundamental-particles-of-the-atomic-nucleus/713261/6 "2015-02-21T20:29:10Z")
It’s sub-atomic particles all the way down! ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-creation-process-of-the-fundamental-particles-of-the-atomic-nucleus/713261/7 "2015-02-21T20:44:38Z")
> [@naita](#): > > Did you find this description somewhere, or just make it up out of whole cloth? > > NoNoNo > > Based on your demonstrated lack of ability to grasp basic physics in your previous thread, you really shouldn’t try to reinvent any other parts of particle physics. You’re violating the conservation of charge all over the place in this thing. And the color force/quark combination rules. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-creation-process-of-the-fundamental-particles-of-the-atomic-nucleus/713261/8 "2015-02-21T22:52:26Z")
Ignorance is conserved. (That’s why it’s taking so long.) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-creation-process-of-the-fundamental-particles-of-the-atomic-nucleus/713261/9 "2015-02-22T00:16:42Z")
> [@RTCPhysics](#): > > Ever wonder how the first atomic nucleus came into being? The nuclei of every element of the Periodic Table must have arisen from the same process being repeated over and over again, giving the atom’s nucleus both its structure and symmetry. > > So, do you have a better understanding of the process than this: > > • The combination of the neutrino & anti-neutrino forms the electron. > • The combination of the electron & anti-neutrino forms the Up quark. > • The combination of the Up quark & anti-Up quark forms the Down quark. > • The combination of the Up quark-Down quark-Up quark forms the Proton. > • The combination of the Down quark-Up quark-Down quark forms the Neutron. > • The Neutron combines with the Proton to create a stable nuclear pairing. > • An individual Neutron decays into a Proton and an anti-Up-quark with the anti-Up-quark further separating into an electron and an anti-neutrino. > > Like to hear from you. So many errors one hardly knows where to begin. Let’s start with elementary particles. Do you know what an elementary particle is? It’s something whose structure is currently unknown, and is assumed to be fundamental. You can’t say an electron or a quark is made up of something else. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-creation-process-of-the-fundamental-particles-of-the-atomic-nucleus/713261/10 "2015-02-22T02:17:54Z")
Since I don’t see an actual factual question in the OP, and most of the statements in it are demonstrably incorrect, I’m going to close this.