# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 117
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2321 "2009-06-08T18:00:51Z")
Yes, it should be. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2322 "2009-06-08T18:10:19Z")
The town couldn’t possibly screw it up this time! Allwalker was most definitely the dective, and Rysto was most definitely a Blackheart. Some people didn’t show up to vote. Okay, fine, there were enough. But of course, the votes of the fellow Blackhearts were going to change. And through subterfuge, technical difficulties and a ghost, Meeko was the one who ended up on the chopping block! Oh dear… He was, of course A pure busybody (mason). At this point, Rysto, Joey P. and Mahaloth felt no need for secrecy. They drew their weapons, desecrated the area, and slaughtered everyone left in a horrible butchering: Inner Stickler, ordinary puritan was dead. Peekercpa, also Reverend Dimmesdale (Secret Sinner/Alpha Sinner) was dead. They even slaughtered the ghost of Billpaul, ordinary puritan! But what would happen to those whose hearts were twisted and black? Well, Mahaloth had it pretty nice. He went and set up his own village, one without any religion or spiritual symbols neccesary. As the Athiest (pure Blackheart, ensinned), that was all he really wanted. As for Rysto Chillingworth (Blackheart Doctor) and Joey P. Hibbins (Blackheart Detective)? Well, as anyone at the time knew, any Satanist, or anyone who would willingly enter the Great Forest, must be a demon. And so they were. They detransformed, grinning over their successful plans in this now aborted great town. And they left, planning to do the same elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2323 "2009-06-08T18:11:50Z")
Yes!!! Wuhahahahaha! ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2324 "2009-06-08T18:12:04Z")
Congrats guys! The second scum team to not lose a single member, and almost a year to date after the first scum team to pull it off. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2325 "2009-06-08T18:13:29Z")
By the way, I wrote the “vanilla town” PM that Joey, I, and Thing Fish used. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2326 "2009-06-08T18:16:13Z")
Meeko, I would be more than happy to fill you in on anything and answer any questions. Everyone, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2327 "2009-06-08T18:21:13Z")
> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > Congrats guys! > > The second scum team to not lose a single member, and almost a year to date after the first scum team to pull it off. And I’m sure it’s only coincidence that I was on the other side in both games…☹ At least **peeker** didn’t shut me out this time. Congratulations, I guess, you scummy scums. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2328 "2009-06-08T18:22:13Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > By the way, I wrote the “vanilla town” PM that Joey, I, and Thing Fish used. > > 🙂 Sorry I forgot to ask your permission before using it. 😉 I imagine that was kind of a giveaway as to my alignment? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2329 "2009-06-08T18:24:35Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Sorry I forgot to ask your permission before using it. 😉 I imagine that was kind of a giveaway as to my alignment? We’d already investigated you the previous Night and learned you were a sinner. I was waiting to see what you would do. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2330 "2009-06-08T18:30:51Z")
Finally I win in one of ped’s game. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2331 "2009-06-08T19:41:28Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > And I’m sure it’s only coincidence that I was on the other side in both games…☹ > At least **peeker** didn’t shut me out this time. > > Congratulations, I guess, you scummy scums. IIRC, you didn’t play badly in Doperville. We scum in Doperville manipulated your lynch (at least, I think you were on of the mislynches we got town to pretty much drive while we subtly pulled the strings), and one of the key town errors was the one-shot vig not claiming, which wasn’t your fault. And cckerberos fingering town doc on Day 1 was a nice benefit to us. (Interesting that something similar happened here, though, here it was dumb luck. In Doperville, we knew that the player of the Doc–ZSofia, IIRC–was intentionally keeping her head down so we figured we had a power role.) ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2332 "2009-06-08T20:02:56Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Sorry I forgot to ask your permission before using it. 😉 I imagine that was kind of a giveaway as to my alignment? Just a little. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2333 "2009-06-08T20:46:05Z")
And it didn’t even occur to me to include an assumption like “If Joey is not Town then Thing Fish is not Town” in my code. Though if it had, it would have, if anything, made Joey look less scummy. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2334 "2009-06-08T22:16:11Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > And it didn’t even occur to me to include an assumption like “If Joey is not Town then Thing Fish is not Town” in my code. Though if it had, it would have, if anything, made Joey look less scummy. Scum or town, I tend to lie pretty low and stay under the radar, I usually get called on it (comment, FOS or voted) once or twice a game for lurking. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2335 "2009-06-08T22:20:39Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Meeko, I would be more than happy to fill you in on anything and answer any questions. \*\*So, that "You mean we [well, WERE] are still playing this game?! \*\*feeling should be listened to? I mean, really, near the end there, I Was honestly expecting this thread to go to page 2. Then again, lately, it seems A LOT of SDMB has been dead. I held the the last post spot one the first three non-new threads in the game room for the longest time. Heh. So, wait, you mean, you mean, that when I was voting for Mahaloth, I was on to something? :eek: At least you guys had the decency to lynch me in public. \*\* Edited to Add, because I can :\*\* Now on to that dang blasted forbidden thread. Do we get the deets on the scum board too ? ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2336 "2009-06-08T22:47:43Z")
The scum board is here, Meeko: > **[The Blackhearts | Secret Borde](https://notsogenericscum.proboards.com/board/8)** > > Every mafia game needs a scum group! pedescribe might have to change things so that you can get access, though. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2337 "2009-06-08T23:19:19Z")
\*\*And if someone could please explain how Ostercizing was SUPPOSED to work, that would be great. \*\* I just want to remember the REAL problem with this game. Luck and Noobs aside. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2338 "2009-06-08T23:24:47Z")
So. What was wrong with calling out someone for editing their claim? Tell me how this logic doesn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2339 "2009-06-08T23:39:27Z")
Was that the AllWalker thing? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2340 "2009-06-08T23:44:14Z")
I think it was the AW thing, and I don’t feel like going back and looking for it. The problem is, during this game, you had a tendency to not let things go. AW left out part of his PM, that part that would get him killed and hurt town, you called him on it, he put it back in and explained himself (I don’t even remember what it was at this point), then IIRC Rysto counter claimed and we had a back and forth. AW really should have won that and Rysto should have been dead, but you just wouldn’t let this editing thing go, you just kept badgering him about it for days, in the end you swung the vote to him, and Rysto lived to see the next Day. So calling him on editing isn’t a problem, that’s what your supposed to do, but you go your answer and you should have moved on to something else. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=116) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=118)