# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/281 "2009-05-01T18:10:38Z")
OK, and now with all that said. If you think there’s a better suspect. Make a case. Don’t tell me why my case is bad. it’s the best one I have and it’s how I’m voting. You don’t have to agree with me, that’s fine. But if you think there’s something better, then go find it. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/282 "2009-05-01T18:17:34Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > OK, and now with all that said. > > If you think there’s a better suspect. Make a case. > > Don’t tell me why my case is bad. it’s the best one I have and it’s how I’m voting. You don’t have to agree with me, that’s fine. > > But if you think there’s something better, then go find it. NETA Ok, you can, of course, tell me why my case is bad. That’s a good thing. How that should have read is: I know my case is weak. I understand it, but it’s still the best case that I have. And it’s how I’ll vote until something better somes along. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/283 "2009-05-01T18:31:09Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > Thanks, Thing Fish. > > I voted to ostracize because of the comment earlier that ostracizing is better than execution if we’re not sure of alignment because if the player is a good guy then (s)he (am I the only she in this game?) can still use his/her night powers. > > **So that’s why I’m suspicious of you for voting to execute.** My alignment is not known, so I feel only a Blackheart would vote to execute in the hopes of hitting some power roles. (bolding mine) Wait…I just noticed that. WTF? I voted to ostracize you! So you’re voting for me because I said I \*considered the possibility \*of voting to execute?! And not one of the people who actually did vote that way? And why did you say earlier that you voted for me for randomizing my decision? (though I now agree that ostracism is in fact a better option). You haven’t answered my question about your stated reasons for voting for me, you’ve only come up with another reason which also makes no sense. And you also haven’t explained the contradiction I pointed out in post 264. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/284 "2009-05-01T18:46:32Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > If you don’t mind, can I use that in my sig? For the life of me, I Cant see where to TURN ON signatures over here. And Ive been here for years now. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/285 "2009-05-01T19:27:42Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > (bolding mine) > > Wait…I just noticed that. WTF? I voted to ostracize you! So you’re voting for me because I said I \*considered the possibility \*of voting to execute?! And not one of the people who actually did vote that way? And why did you say earlier that you voted for me for randomizing my decision? (though I now agree that ostracism is in fact a better option). > > You haven’t answered my question about your stated reasons for voting for me, you’ve only come up with another reason which also makes no sense. And you also haven’t explained the contradiction I pointed out in post 264. I sincerely thought you voted to execute me. Unvote Thing Fish I don’t have an explanation for what you pointed out in post 264 because I don’t see a problem with it. I wanted to explain why I edited my post, because the content was not edited, the form was. Even if it’s okay to edit posts I would think people would be interested in the reason why. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/286 "2009-05-01T19:28:57Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > I sincerely thought you voted to execute me. > > Unvote Thing Fish > > I don’t have an explanation for what you pointed out in post 264 because I don’t see a problem with it. I wanted to explain why I edited my post, because the content was not edited, the form was. Even if it’s okay to edit posts I would think people would be interested in the reason why. I mean, **Unvote Thing Fish** Sorry, I really don’t get the controls on here so if there’s no editing you’re going to see a few double posts of this kind. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/287 "2009-05-01T19:31:19Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > I mean, **Unvote Thing Fish** > > Sorry, I really don’t get the controls on here so if there’s no editing you’re going to see a few double posts of this kind. Have you noticed the preview feature? You can preivew your post before putting it out there. I’ve found it helpful. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/288 "2009-05-01T19:34:32Z")
No, Special Ed, I haven’t, but I see it now. Thanks for pointing it out. I think part of my problem is the quick reply as opposed to the Reply to Thread. The controls are different on them and that’s part of what’s causing me some confusion. Where is BillMc? I’d like to FOS him, just to get him to check in. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/289 "2009-05-01T19:41:13Z")
**Pedescribe, can we get an update?** I’m curious who hasn’t voted at all and where the current vote stand is at. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/290 "2009-05-01T19:50:32Z")
Vote Count: AngeloftheNorth (3): Special Ed, Spurious George, Thing Fish Spurious George (4): Chronos, AllWalker, Joey P., Nanook Chronos (2): Meeko, Freudian Slit Special Ed (1): Telcontar Captain Pinkies (1): Mahaloth E (2): Spurious George, Meeko O (8): Special Ed, Chronos, AllWalker, Mahaloth, Joey P., nanook, Telcontar, Freudian Slit, Thing Fish > [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > I mean, **Unvote Thing Fish** > > Sorry, I really don’t get the controls on here so if there’s no editing you’re going to see a few double posts of this kind. FTR, unvotes are in read. But I got what you meant. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/291 "2009-05-01T19:50:51Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > No, Special Ed, I haven’t, but I see it now. Thanks for pointing it out. I think part of my problem is the quick reply as opposed to the Reply to Thread. The controls are different on them and that’s part of what’s causing me some confusion. > > Where is BillMc? I’d like to FOS him, just to get him to check in. _ **OOG** _I know, that quick reply is tempting, but I always quote now. If I’m starting a new thought, I just hit quote and then delete everything to get a blank slate. And the preview is really handy. Also, and feel free to ignore this as it’s just information on the format here: I went to “User CP” and clicked “Edit options” Way down, Under “Thread Display Mode” I selected “Linear-newest first” That puts the newest messages on the top, and you actually scroll up to get to the newer messages. I kinda like it better. I also changed it to show 200 messages per page, as it makes searching easier. But that’s just me, I’m used to ‘newest on top’ from years of web-based chatting back before they’d invesnted instant messaging programs. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/292 "2009-05-01T20:13:56Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > _ **OOG** _I know, that quick reply is tempting, but I always quote now. If I’m starting a new thought, I just hit quote and then delete everything to get a blank slate. And the preview is really handy. Right below the Quick reply box is a button that says “Go Advanced” which takes you to that same window…sans any quoted text. Also, if you’ve already started typing in the quick reply box and hit “Go Advanced” it’s effectively the same as hitting the preview post button. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/293 "2009-05-01T20:14:00Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > For the life of me, I Cant see where to TURN ON signatures over here. And Ive been here for years now. Anyone mind helping me here? ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/294 "2009-05-01T20:14:33Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > _ **OOG** _ > Also, and feel free to ignore this as it’s just information on the format here: > I went to “User CP” and clicked “Edit options” > Way down, Under “Thread Display Mode” I selected “Linear-newest first” That puts the newest messages on the top, and you actually scroll up to get to the newer messages. I kinda like it better. I also changed it to show 200 messages per page, as it makes searching easier. > > But that’s just me, I’m used to ‘newest on top’ from years of web-based chatting back before they’d invesnted instant messaging programs. Thank you, that was really helpful, I can be sure I won’t miss the new posts now (which I was before), plus I was able to limit the number of posts per page, which was the other thing causing me trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/295 "2009-05-01T20:19:08Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > NETA > > Ok, you can, of course, tell me why my case is bad. That’s a good thing. > > How that should have read is: > > I know my case is weak. I understand it, but it’s still the best case that I have. > > And it’s how I’ll vote until something better somes along. Well obviously i think you’re the most suspicious. Your case is weak and your arguments fairly nonsensical. I think that means that you just want blood and don’t care whether what looks like a scum tell on the surface is actually a scum tell. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/296 "2009-05-01T20:30:20Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Anyone mind helping me here? :not game related post: 1. Click User CP in the upper left corner. 2. Click Edit Options on the left. 3. Scroll down to “Thread Display” and choose “Show Signatures” Is this what you needed? :end non-game related post: ---
**Author:** ![Spurious\_George](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Spurious\_George](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spurious_George)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/297 "2009-05-01T20:32:21Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > E (2): Spurious George, Meeko > O (8): Special Ed, Chronos, AllWalker, Mahaloth, Joey P., nanook, Telcontar, Freudian Slit, Thing Fish This math doesn’t add up, it should be E (2) and O (9). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/298 "2009-05-01T20:33:36Z")
> [@](#): > > For the life of me, I Cant see where to TURN ON signatures over here. And Ive been here for years now. First, you need to have a signature to turn on. That’s somewhere in the Control Panel, but it’s been so long since I’ve done it, that I don’t remember exactly where. Then, for each and every post you want to attach your signature to, you need to check the “Show your signature” box. If you preview, it’ll become unchecked, and you’ll need to check it again. There is no way to make it default to always on. The general etiquette guideline around here is to include it at most once per page of a thread. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/299 "2009-05-01T20:39:36Z")
One more time. **Angel** , did you vote for me because you thought I voted to execute you, or because I randomized my E/O decision? If the former, why did you say it was the latter when you cast the vote? If the latter: > [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Moreover, even if it is a bad way to make a decision, why does that merit a vote? Do you think that I am scum who has some secret information that makes me want to ostracize people rather than execute them, so I came up with the “coin flip” to not have to justify that decision? Despite the fact that although people have gotten all kinds of heat for voting to execute, nobody has yet directed so much at a peep about the several people, including you, you have voted to ostracize without explaining why? What is the possible scum motivation you are seeing there? And WRT your saying that you edited only for form and not content: you do understand, don’t you, that the whole reason people object so strongly to editing is that we have NO WAY of knowing whether that is actually true or not. Unverifiable explanations are as good as no explanation at all. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/300 "2009-05-01T20:46:08Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > One more time. > > **Angel** , did you vote for me because you thought I voted to execute you, or because I randomized my E/O decision? > > If the former, why did you say it was the latter when you cast the vote? If the latter: > > And WRT your saying that you edited only for form and not content: you do understand, don’t you, that the whole reason people object so strongly to editing is that we have NO WAY of knowing whether that is actually true or not. Unverifiable explanations are as good as no explanation at all. Thing Fish, they are two incomplete thoughts that go together. I voted you because I thought you voted to execute me AND I thought the randomization of that decision was too careless for someone to be town. In other words, I thought the randomization of the decision was an excuse to vote to execute, and the reason to vote to execute was Blackheart looking for a power role. I’m not going to discuss the editing anymore. I won’t be doing it again so it’s just static at this point. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=16)