# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/21 "2009-04-26T22:41:29Z")

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That was you first game Dirx?

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**Author:** ![Sir\_Dirx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Sir\_Dirx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Dirx)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/22 "2009-04-26T22:57:15Z")

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Yep. Well, ok, I played part of an older game here on the dope, a LONG time ago. It died unfinished pretty quickly though.

ah, here we go: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=210276](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=210276)

Wow, I recognize NO ONE on that player list…  
(I was town then, btw. Politician. I could buy votes. I had no idea what I was doing when I used that power :D)

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**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/23 "2009-04-26T23:48:41Z")

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Dang. Pede I enjoyed the Werewolf Split game, but I’ll be on vacation for 9 days in May with no internet access, so will have to take a pass. Looks…complex.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/24 "2009-04-27T00:36:45Z")

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1. Mahaloth
2. Freudian Slit
3. Nanook
4. Special Ed
5. Thing Fish
6. BillMC
7. Joey P
8. Justin Credible
9. Sir Dirx
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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/25 "2009-04-27T07:08:28Z")

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Since I recently lost my Facebook (as some of you know) that frees up a lot of my time.

But one question I must know that helps me decide: Is this game using that weird voting for three players system? If so, I’m out. If not, I’m in. 🙂

No offense but one of my pet peeves is that type of system game. : p

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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/26 "2009-04-27T14:22:30Z")

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I’d like to play if that’s okay.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/27 "2009-04-27T14:52:59Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Since I recently lost my Facebook (as some of you know) that frees up a lot of my time.
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> But one question I must know that helps me decide: Is this game using that weird voting for three players system? If so, I’m out. If not, I’m in. 🙂
> 
> No offense but one of my pet peeves is that type of system game. : p

It does not. However, it does use a _slightly_ complex voting system.

> [@AngeloftheNorth](#):
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> I’d like to play if that’s okay.

It’s fine!

1. Mahaloth
2. Freudian Slit
3. Nanook
4. Special Ed
5. Thing Fish
6. BillMC
7. Joey P
8. Justin Credible
9. Sir Dirx
10. Idle Thoughts (maybe)
11. AngeloftheNorth
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**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/28 "2009-04-27T15:07:36Z")

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I’d like to be in.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/29 "2009-04-27T15:14:52Z")

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Good to see you getting in the game, Telcontar.

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/30 "2009-04-27T15:19:53Z")

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I want in! More more more Mafia!

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/31 "2009-04-27T15:32:32Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> It does not. However, it does use a _slightly_ complex voting system.

oh goodness, please tell me it’s nothing like the Mushroom Kingdom

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/32 "2009-04-27T20:02:54Z")

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Yeah, I can do this one. Deal me in.

To be clear, can the Sinners collectively infect a Puritan with the Seed of Sin, or does it only attach to lynchings? And does prayer to remove sin carry any cost to it (like, not taking any other actions during that time)? If one sins multiple times, is the prayer time concurrent or cumulative?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/33 "2009-04-27T20:55:12Z")

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Yes, Chronos question is good.

Will a more detailed rule description, including all win situations and so forth, be forthcoming?

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/34 "2009-04-27T21:55:05Z")

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1. Mahaloth
2. Freudian Slit
3. Nanook
4. Special Ed
5. Thing Fish
6. BillMC
7. Joey P
8. Justin Credible
9. Sir Dirx
10. Idle Thoughts (maybe)
11. AngeloftheNorth
12. Telcontar
13. Ichini Sanshigo
14. Chronos
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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/35 "2009-04-27T21:57:24Z")

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To answer Chronos’s questions:

1. Something like that.
2. Nope.
3. Concurrently.

And the win conditions are:

The town wins when every player alive is Pure.  
The Blackhearts win when they control the vote.  
The Sinners win when every player has the Seed of Sin within them.

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**Author:** ![Spurious\_George](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Spurious\_George](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spurious_George)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/36 "2009-04-27T22:10:43Z")

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Sign me up!

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**Author:** ![GuyIncognitto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ba0ec/32.png) [@GuyIncognitto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuyIncognitto)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/37 "2009-04-27T23:13:43Z")

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I’d like in on this one 🙂

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/38 "2009-04-28T00:05:36Z")

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1. Mahaloth
2. Freudian Slit
3. Nanook
4. Special Ed
5. Thing Fish
6. BillMC
7. Joey P
8. Justin Credible
9. Sir Dirx
10. Idle Thoughts (maybe)
11. AngeloftheNorth
12. Telcontar
13. Ichini Sanshigo
14. Chronos
15. Spurious George
16. GuyIncognitto
17. 
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Two more slots!

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/39 "2009-04-28T02:51:25Z")

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Three more slots. The week after next is going to be… hectic for me, and I don’t want to be subbed out later. Can I be removed from the player list? Sorry about that!

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/40 "2009-04-28T03:03:44Z")

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Interestingly, it appears that it is possible for the Sinners to win simultaneously with the Blackhearts, if the last pure Puritan gets killed, or (possibly) for the Sinners to win with the Puritans, if everyone ends up dead (whether this is possible will depend on the roles that exist).

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