# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/601 "2009-05-06T02:46:38Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> “God, could you make a stone so heavy that even you could lift it?”  
> Yes.
> 
> And the philosophers rejoiced.

:smack::smack::smack:

That should obviously be **couldn’t**. A stone so heavy even He couldn’t lift it.

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/602 "2009-05-06T02:47:30Z")

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So we just lynch now?

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/603 "2009-05-06T02:47:31Z")

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**Where does that leave “last to vote execute., becomes ensinned” ?**

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/604 "2009-05-06T02:47:37Z")

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Meeko… you are failing to see that there is a difference between receiving the Seed of Sin and being recruited to the Sinners. When we execute someone, they receive the Seed of Sin, but they are not recruited.

On another note, he is the question and answer I got from Pede.

[QUOTE=pedescribe]

[QUOTE=paulwhoisaghost]  
Did someone receive the Seed of Sin last night?  
[/QUOTE]

Yes. However, you do not know who it is.  
[/QUOTE]

Please note that there was more wording to this question that was necessary to get an answer from Pede other than F4, that I don’t think would be prudent to post so I clipped it.  
So there you go… Now I have direct confirmation that at least one person was infected with the Seed of Sin last Night.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/605 "2009-05-06T02:49:02Z")

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NETA :

If it doesn’t make me immortal, then I really could have Used Tel.'s night power Tonight.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/606 "2009-05-06T02:49:37Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
>
> **Where does that leave “last to vote execute., becomes ensinned” ?**

Nowhere. It no longer exists as a rule.

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/607 "2009-05-06T02:51:50Z")

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Lol…and again the merits of previewing rear their ugly head… :-\*

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/608 "2009-05-06T02:52:16Z")

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**Can meeko still ask questions that no one else understands?**

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/609 "2009-05-06T02:53:57Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Nowhere. It no longer exists as a rule.

So… then eliminating the mechanic does affect the game… or at least another aspect of the game… because that alters the Seed of Sin mechanic.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/610 "2009-05-06T02:57:01Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> **Can meeko still ask questions that no one else understands?**

Yes.

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/611 "2009-05-06T03:01:07Z")

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Oh… and Ed… I won’t be answering your question. … … yet

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/612 "2009-05-06T03:03:04Z")

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> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
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> Oh… and Ed… I won’t be answering your question. … … yet

Don’t worry. I wasn’t holding my breath

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/613 "2009-05-06T03:03:12Z")

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**On and Off the record, In and Out of game:**

Very Seriously,

I will not apologize for my actions leading to what just happened. I am a new player to Mafia. The rule set is admittedly flawed.

Was it not the best game for Mafia Noobs to play in? Probably not.

Pede said we could ask questions. Apparently, somewhere between My first Mafia Game, and Pede’s incredible new Mafia Idea, this all happened.

It is my style of play, in nearly every game I play, to fully, FULLY understand what I can, and can not do. If you do not believe me, simply look at the games of Haggle I have played.

**I am not staging something just to get at Pedescribe’s game.** I had no idea of knowing that I could get to him, and further, I had no idea of knowing ahead of time, that his game would be such that it is.

I am not going to apologize for my questions. We needed understanding in this game, that still has fires burning. The big one has been put out, but we still have a few flickers in it’s aftermath.

No. My questions prove that I am active in this game, and I enjoy playing. I feel I bring to this game insight that the game would not have with out me in it.

In short, I am not putting anything on here. I am playing the best game I know how to play.

I do not think that you can fault me for trying to understand Mafia, and in trying to uinderstand this version of the game.

What you have seen thus far, is what you will see from me for the rest of the game.

I just hope I can survive that long, either in-game, or a well placed lightning bolt from our Mod here.

Im not sure what is needed here, but I intend to keep playing this game for as long as I can.

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/614 "2009-05-06T03:08:42Z")

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No one wanted an apology… the mechanic was too confusing… I for one would love to talk about it with Pede after the game and try to figure out how it could work. It was an interesting mechanic, just complicated.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/615 "2009-05-06T03:09:26Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
>
> **On and Off the record, In and Out of game:**
> 
> Very Seriously,
> 
> I will not apologize for my actions leading to what just happened. I am a new player to Mafia. The rule set is admittedly flawed.
> 
> Was it not the best game for Mafia Noobs to play in? Probably not.
> 
> Pede said we could ask questions. Apparently, somewhere between My first Mafia Game, and Pede’s incredible new Mafia Idea, this all happened.
> 
> It is my style of play, in nearly every game I play, to fully, FULLY understand what I can, and can not do. If you do not believe me, simply look at the games of Haggle I have played.
> 
> **I am not staging something just to get at Pedescribe’s game.** I had no idea of knowing that I could get to him, and further, I had no idea of knowing ahead of time, that his game would be such that it is.
> 
> I am not going to apologize for my questions. We needed understanding in this game, that still has fires burning. The big one has been put out, but we still have a few flickers in it’s aftermath.
> 
> No. My questions prove that I am active in this game, and I enjoy playing. I feel I bring to this game insight that the game would not have with out me in it.
> 
> In short, I am not putting anything on here. I am playing the best game I know how to play.
> 
> I do not think that you can fault me for trying to understand Mafia, and in trying to uinderstand this version of the game.
> 
> What you have seen thus far, is what you will see from me for the rest of the game.
> 
> I just hope I can survive that long, either in-game, or a well placed lightning bolt from our Mod here.
> 
> Im not sure what is needed here, but I intend to keep playing this game for as long as I can.

FTR, I don’t fault you at all.

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/616 "2009-05-06T03:12:06Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> Don’t worry. I wasn’t holding my breath

I didn’t think you were, but I wanted to be sure to at least acknowledge the question.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/617 "2009-05-06T03:14:44Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> FTR, I don’t fault you at all.

I just felt I needed to say something.

I am cool if you are cool.

Oh, and Mahaloth : I think I got this game going sideways while I got it going sideways.

Pede., I respect your game. I really do. The moment\* I can ask one final question about your Ostracize mechanic, I will.

For the time being, I am glad that I no longer have to left click on THAT word to spell it correctly. 🙂

\*And not a moment before

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/618 "2009-05-06T03:16:26Z")

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NETA:

**So. Do we fast forward the game, rewind the game, or otherwise reset the game given the new rules,  
Or do we just simply get to know that we no longer have E/O, and we have to figure out the rest?**

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/619 "2009-05-06T03:18:51Z")

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Meeko… you seem very fond of double spacing.  
Quick question for everyone… who has the Seed of Sin right now?

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/620 "2009-05-06T03:20:13Z")

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Meeko… I think we just carry on…

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