# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/681 "2009-05-06T20:40:36Z")
Are those votes to ostracize or to kill? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/682 "2009-05-06T20:43:26Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > :smack: Really I said _ **I** _ received the direct knowledge from Pede… of course it isn’t posted in the main thread… and no… I won’t share it with everyone yet because there is no need to put out that particular info. The noob has a question: Where else are you getting this info from? “..of course it isn’t posted in the main thread..” 😕 This implies a non-main thread. Who do you kibitz with? Can I vote for you twice? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/683 "2009-05-06T20:43:47Z")
Um, didn’t you get the memo, **Freudian**? It was kind of hard to miss, a couple of pages ago. There’s no such thing as executing any more. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/684 "2009-05-06T20:48:21Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Are those votes to ostracize or to kill? Lynching/Executing is our only option now. God told us so. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/685 "2009-05-06T20:51:50Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Um, didn’t you get the memo, **Freudian**? It was kind of hard to miss, a couple of pages ago. There’s no such thing as executing any more. Oops, sorry, haven’t been keeping up as well as I should have. Question, though–what happens if the last person to vote for someone is already infected with sin? ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/686 "2009-05-06T20:54:50Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Oops, sorry, haven’t been keeping up as well as I should have. Question, though–what happens if the last person to vote for someone is already infected with sin? I believe that we’re supposed to forget the executing/ostracizing distinction entirely. Lynching now works exactly as it does in a normal game. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/687 "2009-05-06T20:55:51Z")
Mahaloth is wrong. We can only ostracize. Not execute. Seeds of Sin can only be planted by the Sinners’ night action now. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/688 "2009-05-06T20:55:55Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Are those votes to ostracize or to kill? I kinda pissed God off. I’m kinda wondering if I become immortal now, or not. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/689 "2009-05-06T20:58:38Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Lynching/Executing is our only option now. God told us so. > [@Rysto](#): > > I believe that we’re supposed to forget the executing/ostracizing distinction entirely. Lynching now works exactly as it does in a normal game. > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Mahaloth is wrong. We can only ostracize. Not execute. Seeds of Sin can only be planted by the Sinners’ night action now. Hope that cleared things up for you, Freudian. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/690 "2009-05-06T20:59:36Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Oops, sorry, haven’t been keeping up as well as I should have. Question, though–what happens if the last person to vote for someone is already infected with sin? sually skimming is a Scum tell. You’ve made no effort to actually read what;s been going on, have you? Or was the large bold font too difficult to read? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/691 "2009-05-06T21:01:11Z")
**Are we now performing vanilla lynches? Or Ostracizing people?** ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/692 "2009-05-06T21:03:33Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > sually skimming is a Scum tell. > > You’ve made no effort to actually read what;s been going on, have you? Or was the large bold font too difficult to read? Um, no, wouldn’t a scum want to make every effort to keep up with the conversation? How is it possibly a scum tell? And if I were a scum, I wouldn’t admit to doing that. It’s just that this game goes super fast, especially in the early days. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/693 "2009-05-06T21:06:37Z")
Wow… you guys are just too much… fuck it… at this point all I have done is give you info. Scum only sees that I have info on the sinfection aspect of the game and nothing else, so I am no threat to them, Sinners only see that I can somehow keep track of the number of sinfected… and that’s no real threat to them, even if it was, they can’t do anything about it. And town has a lot to gain by knowing how many people are sinfected… it helps us keep track of how close we are to losing. So wtf did I do that is so scummy… I had info that is pertinent now, and I distributed it. It in no way helps anybody but town. And you seem to want me to claim before you are willing to trust me… that’s fuckin stupid in it’s stupidest form. If I claim, then I give the scum and sinners even more info that they may or may not be able to act on… and me claiming provides no good info to town. So I’ll tell you what. Lynching me would be very bad. You can decide to believe me or not… but you really don’t want to lynch me… And Freudian… pay attention… the mechanic for O or E has been eliminated… how could you not know that? ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/694 "2009-05-06T21:07:46Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > No. I’m just saying that at this point in the game, there is really very little to go on, is all. So far I’m skeptical of people who focus on one person with no evidence–so, I voted on **Chronos** last time and I’m focusing on you now. Who have I focused on with no evidence? If anything I haven’t focused on anyone at all and have done nothing but provided town with info. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/695 "2009-05-06T21:10:07Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Mahaloth is wrong. We can only ostracize. Not execute. Seeds of Sin can only be planted by the Sinners’ night action now. You are wrong IS… there are other ways to plant the seed of sin… Why haven’t you picked that up yet? What would I have to gain by telling you so if it weren’t true? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/696 "2009-05-06T21:11:18Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Um, no, wouldn’t a scum want to make every effort to keep up with the conversation? How is it possibly a scum tell? And if I were a scum, I wouldn’t admit to doing that. It’s just that this game goes super fast, especially in the early days. :rolleyes: Stop. Scum would do this or scum wouldn’t do that are not useful metrics. You start thinking like that and you WIFOM yourself into a tailspin and make mistakes. It’s all about motivations. What would a blackheart vs a sinner vs a townie have to gain from skimming the thread? ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/697 "2009-05-06T21:12:02Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > The noob has a question: > > Where else are you getting this info from? > > “..of course it isn’t posted in the main thread..” > > 😕 This implies a non-main thread. Who do you kibitz with? > > Can I vote for you twice? Well obviously you don’t converse with the mod through PM’s regularly. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/698 "2009-05-06T21:12:24Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > You are wrong IS… there are other ways to plant the seed of sin… Why haven’t you picked that up yet? What would I have to gain by telling you so if it weren’t true? I. Don’t. Know. That. And I don’t have any reason to trust that you’re not trying to lead us down the primrose path. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/699 "2009-05-06T21:13:20Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Um, no, wouldn’t a scum want to make every effort to keep up with the conversation? How is it possibly a scum tell? And if I were a scum, I wouldn’t admit to doing that. It’s just that this game goes super fast, especially in the early days. :rolleyes: It’s a Scum tell because Scum don’t need to read carefully to figure out who the Scum is. They already know. If you were a blackheart, you could happily skim as long as there’s no danger of lynching one of your kind. The Town has to read carefully as this thread is the only place where we can figure out who the Scum are. So, yeah, it’s a Scum tell. And you didn’t seem to notice it. If you were Town, how did you expect to find Scum if not by reading this thread? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/700 "2009-05-06T21:14:41Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > So, yeah, it’s a Scum tell. And you didn’t seem to notice it. > If you were Town, how did you expect to find Scum if not by reading this thread? I don’t think anyone has anything to gain from not reading the thread. So let’s just let this talk of “scum tells” go, okay? I agree with **Inner Stickler**. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=36)