# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/901 "2009-05-07T21:56:59Z")
If by Day 2 or 3 there was a group of 4 or 5 players who hadn’t said anything at all, Town would lynch them. It’s when there’s only one or two players that are hanging back and not participating that it becomes difficult to judge scum vs. town. And it is impossible for anyone who is vanilla town to reveal too much information because they have none. They’re sandbags that should get tossed in front of the blackhearts to buy the power roles time to get information. Nilla towns who don’t post are playing poorly. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/902 "2009-05-07T21:58:00Z")
You and me both, ed. Note to self: do not join 4 mafia games during finals week. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/903 "2009-05-07T22:02:47Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > The drawback to posting too much is that one provides more than enough information to expediently play the game. > > The drawback to not posting too much, is that everyone else suspects that, frankly, that person is not providing enough information to provide tells. > > So. Given the right level of posts, you work on what other people have said, and disect it for your own purposes, trying to make right choices for your alignment. > > How am I doing so far? > > Yet, a majority of the players, are not given a list of who is Town. Conversely, those who are scum can reasonably deduce the names of those they have to eliminate. > > So, Effectively, > > The good guys here have a catch 22. > > The Scum, if they so wish, can simply not say anything at all, and win. > > How am I so far? > WIFOM, but it seems as if the entire game has 2 catch 22’s too many. Yes, you are starting to catch on. There’s one point I don’t think you’ve grasped. The Scum cannot actively work toward their goals here in this thread. They need to pretend to be Town. They must pretend to be working toward Town goals. If they don’t, we’ll lynch them. THAT is why we need to encourage everyone to participate. Either the Scum have to actively work toward eliminating themselves (and some scum will actively lynch their teammates) or we’ll lynch them. And this DOES make it beneficial for the Scum to lurk. However, if they participate too little, they run the risk of being mod-killed. On preview, **Inner Stickler** , I would still recommend that we don’t lynch the lurkers without giving a Vigilante an opportunity to kill them so we won’t have to. We get no data from lynching lurkers. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/904 "2009-05-07T22:47:29Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > Because I didn’t see the PM telling me I was sinfected until much later. > > **Vote Thing Fish** > > This is an OMGUS vote but I don’t care. You seem hell-bent on getting me lynched when all I’ve demonstrated is confusion with the mechanics of the message board. > > And now you’re trying to connect me with Paul as a Blackheart because I believe his claim? I’m so hell-bent I’m not even currently voting for you…although saying things like “This is an OMGUS vote and I don’t care” is likely to change my mind on that in a hurry. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/905 "2009-05-07T22:48:56Z")
> [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > Thing Fish. You think I was guiding the bandwagon Yesterday? Really? And how the hell was I doing that? I came in the middle of it. Plenty of people voted for him both before and after I did. No one seemed to jump on my post as a reason to vote for him. Yet you seem to think I guided it. > > . Poor choice of words. All I meant is that your vote came at a time when the vote was still fairly close, hence (assuming my theory that Angel is scum) scum motivation to vote at that time would have been higher than very early or late in the voting. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/906 "2009-05-07T22:51:03Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Please don’t use page numbers. Please use post numbers. I have a different system for displaying the posts than is the default. > I’d rather not lynch a non-participator. Let the Mod handle him. I mean posts 250-300. My impression from reading the rules is that there will be no modkilling for nonparticipation this game. **Is that right?** ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/907 "2009-05-07T22:56:29Z")
OK, I’m out of game time for today (not caught up yet, stopping to camp for the night at post 900). Since he appears to have a confirmed Mason claim, unvote Meeko For not caring if she casts OMGUS votes, vote Angel of the North And I miscolored my question earlier \*\* Is it true that players will not be Modkilled for non-participation? How about if players specifically request that the Mod do so?\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/908 "2009-05-07T23:10:49Z")
Thing Fish, I think Ped wants us to vote in purple to remove people from the game and he will try to find a sub. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/909 "2009-05-07T23:26:10Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > OK, I’m out of game time for today (not caught up yet, stopping to camp for the night at post 900). > > Since he appears to have a confirmed Mason claim, > > unvote Meeko > > For not caring if she casts OMGUS votes, > > vote Angel of the North > > And I miscolored my question earlier > \*\* > Is it true that players will not be Modkilled for non-participation? How about if players specifically request that the Mod do so?\*\* I was planning on just subbing, but given how many substitutions I’ve had to do already, modkilling may be necessary. However, I’m not counting posts this game. If you (the players) think it’s necessary, you’ll have to bring it to my attention (hence the purple voting). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/910 "2009-05-08T00:23:02Z")
Guys, do we want to consider subbing or modkilling Captain Pinkies? Nanook, I am not familiar with your low post count combined with high post quality pattern. When you say yo udon’t want to explain it again, just understand not all of us have played in games with you. It’s cool, though. I see that you have posted more recently. 🙂 Anyway, what do we want to do with Captain Pinkies? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/911 "2009-05-08T00:43:49Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Guys, do we want to consider subbing or modkilling Captain Pinkies? > > Nanook, I am not familiar with your low post count combined with high post quality pattern. When you say yo udon’t want to explain it again, just understand not all of us have played in games with you. It’s cool, though. I see that you have posted more recently. 🙂 > > Anyway, what do we want to do with Captain Pinkies? \*\* Replace Captain Pinkies with somebody else\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/912 "2009-05-08T01:40:08Z")
I’m good with that. **Replace Captain Pinkies** ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/913 "2009-05-08T01:50:01Z")
If we are replacing Captain, AND given what Nanook has said… UGH **Unvote Nanook** \*\* Replace Captain\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/914 "2009-05-08T01:51:34Z")
Neta: Or Can we still vote Captain? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/915 "2009-05-08T02:08:15Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Neta: > > Or Can we still vote Captain? Do you jump on just any bandwagon? Yes, I think that replacing Captain Nanook is not a “game vote”. You can still vote for Nanook if you want. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/916 "2009-05-08T02:11:01Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Do you jump on just any bandwagon? Yes, I think that replacing Captain Nanook is not a “game vote”. You can still vote for Nanook if you want. 😕😕😕 Didn’t think this was a bandwagon, if indeed it is not a game vote. Would you rather I vote to keep Captain aboard the ship here? Nanook more less handed me my ass. Im not gonna still vote him. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/917 "2009-05-08T02:14:19Z")
Well, Nanook has responded and made me satisfied he is worth keeping in the game for now. Were you planning to unvote Nanook before? Getting rid of Captain Pinkies is separate, unless I am wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/918 "2009-05-08T02:21:05Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Well, Nanook has responded and made me satisfied he is worth keeping in the game for now. > > Were you planning to unvote Nanook before? Getting rid of Captain Pinkies is separate, unless I am wrong. I was going to vote a lurker, Nanook has very good points. I am sick and tired of everything changing on a dime here. * * * Perhaps I’m not clear on what “bandwagon” means. I think it implies little to no thought on my part. I do think about things. I see that someone else is going where I want to go. Is it bad to second an Idea in a timely manner? I try to give reasons where and when I can, how I can. I don’t think I can present them any other way, and there is no guarantee that you will understand me the second time I try it out either. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/919 "2009-05-08T02:25:14Z")
I’m about to go to bed. I’m happy with my paul vote. His claimed tracker power does not make any sense for a Town role. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/920 "2009-05-08T02:34:37Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > I’m about to go to bed. I’m happy with my paul vote. His claimed tracker power does not make any sense for a Town role. Uh, don’t you want to at least tell us what you want to do with Captain Pinkies? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=47)