# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 51
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1001 "2009-05-09T21:24:38Z")
> [@](#): > > The only way to rule out people being scum is by death, which is how we knew about Telcontar and Spurious George or through mason-type links. Special Ed and Meeko have claimed to be busybodies and town aligned. If we lynch one or if one gets NK’ed and the mod role reveal verifies their claim, then the other is verified as is anyone else that they claim as a busybody. Even a mason link isn’t quite good enough in this game. It’s possible, for instance, for **Meeko** to be killed and confirmed as a Busybody, but **special ed** meanwhile has been Sinfected and chosen to embrace Sin. Meanwhile, what ought we to do about **Captain Pinkies**? We were all willing to ditch him when he wasn’t showing up at all, but now that he’s made a couple of appearances, suddenly nobody seems to have a problem with him. A lurker who genuinely _never_ shows up is no threat at all, since he presumably wouldn’t be participating on the scum board or using any powers he might have, but he’s just proven that he’s not in that category. And we have no game content from him for the entire week: His two posts this page were nothing but “sorry I’m not posting more”. And even if he’s willing to sub out, it’ll be tough to find a replacement (it sounds like **pedescribe** has been twisting arms to get reps as it is), and we’d have a serious information shortage on whomever did replace him. I wish I had a better basis for a vote at this point, but we’re getting to the end of the Day, so **Vote Captain Pinkies** ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1002 "2009-05-09T22:56:29Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > If you are disinfected toMorrow, then obviously it’s Paul’s doing. Oh…do I have my game days and nights mixed up? I was Sinfected last night? I was thinking it was two nights ago and that I would be pure tomorrow “morning.” ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1003 "2009-05-09T22:57:32Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > Oh…do I have my game days and nights mixed up? I was Sinfected last night? I was thinking it was two nights ago and that I would be pure tomorrow “morning.” … It’s Day Two. There’s only been one game Night. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1004 "2009-05-09T23:38:52Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I got that, just don’t forget to take into consideration that Paul could desinfect Angel toNight and still be scum. This would be a great way to help make a town claim. I mentioned earlier that I felt his role was equally suited for scum or town. There is no way to trust either of them on anything. Paul could be a Blackheart with the power to dis-sinfect someone. Paul could be a Sinner with that power trying to earn Town credibility Paul could be Town with that power Angel could be a Sinner hoping to avoid detection by a Town investigator who can see the seed of sin or wanting Town to waste it’s dis-sinfection power. Angel could be a Blackheart who was genuinely sinfected last Night and wants to be free of it. Angel could be Town who genuinely wants to be free of the Sinfection Angel could be Town who has changed over to the Sinner side and doesn’t want to be dis-sinfected, but she can’t really tell us that. So, basically, they could be telling the truth, they could be lying, and we’d never know one way or another. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1005 "2009-05-09T23:43:03Z")
My vote is currently on \*\*Chronos \*\*for his repeated promotion of actions that seem pro-Sinner. I admit it’s not a rock solid case. It’s just the one that I put the most stock in currently. I’m also pinged by \*\*Angel \*\*still. I know my initial vote was for the editing thing (still a pro-Scum move, thank goodness, we’ve avoided editing since then). I’m also pinged by her lack of posting. I don’t recall playing a game with her where she’s been Scum. She’s very vocal when Town (Even more than I am, if that’s possible) And she’s been remarkably quiet this game. I know it’s meta-gamey and I know she’s claimed difficulty with the set up of the boards, but she’s really smart and should have the boards figured out by now., but it’s still pinging me. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1006 "2009-05-09T23:46:57Z")
Vote count? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1007 "2009-05-10T00:30:38Z")
😕 Ok. The long and short of it is this, if we are going to lose ANOTHER player for a non in-game reason, I think we should fast-forward the in game clock, or something. At the very least, If we are getting someone NEW in, then we SHOULD reset all of the current votes. We WILL get new informaiton from new players. I don’t think I have I am currently voting, but, just to make sure : \*\*Unvote whomever I was voting for, If I was voting for someone. \*\* I don’t think it is fair to maintain a vote to one person or another, when the game WILL change, regardless of any Vote, or No vote, or both. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1008 "2009-05-10T00:33:38Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > … > > It’s Day Two. There’s only been one game Night. Okay…then I have to ask my question again. If there’s already been one game night where I prayed, then how can Paul prove that he diSinfected me last night? I will pray tonight and I should be okay tomorrow. @Special Ed: I’m in 3 games right now. I’m in over my head. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1009 "2009-05-10T00:39:02Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > Okay…then I have to ask my question again. If there’s already been one game night where I prayed, then how can Paul prove that he diSinfected me last night? I will pray tonight and I should be okay tomorrow. > > @Special Ed: I’m in 3 games right now. I’m in over my head. Angel, you were infected during Night 1, to self-cleanse you must pray for two nights\*. So you cannot have prayed at all yet. I mean, WE found out you were given the seen of sin on Day 2, I presume you found out about the same time as well, correct? If I understand everything correctly, you shouldn’t be able to do any praying on the same night you were sinfected. \*IIRC they don’t have to be consecutive ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1010 "2009-05-10T00:41:37Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > 😕 > > Ok. > > The long and short of it is this, if we are going to lose ANOTHER player for a non in-game reason, I think we should fast-forward the in game clock, or something. > > At the very least, If we are getting someone NEW in, then we SHOULD reset all of the current votes. > > We WILL get new informaiton from new players. > > I don’t think I have I am currently voting, but, just to make sure : > > \*\*Unvote whomever I was voting for, If I was voting for someone. \*\* > > I don’t think it is fair to maintain a vote to one person or another, when the game WILL change, regardless of any Vote, or No vote, or both. But that’s just sort of the way it works. In my last game, one player decided to just not play. I mean, they popped in every few (lowercase) days and said they would be in later with a full analysis, but they never showed up. They ended up with almost everyone voting for them and were subbed out with one hour left in the Day, sucked to be her, but she pulled it off. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1011 "2009-05-10T00:43:02Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Angel, you were infected during Night 1, to self-cleanse you must pray for two nights\*. So you cannot have prayed at all yet. I mean, WE found out you were given the seen of sin on Day 2, I presume you found out about the same time as well, correct? If I understand everything correctly, you shouldn’t be able to do any praying on the same night you were sinfected. > > \*IIRC they don’t have to be consecutive Okay, thanks. I guess I was misunderstanding this. I thought when I chose to pray the night I was Sinfected it started immediately. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1012 "2009-05-10T00:56:15Z")
When did you find out? (ie, the end of Day 1?, middle of the night? Beginning of Day 2?) ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1013 "2009-05-10T00:58:13Z")
**Is any consideration given, with respect to purification, if we lynch the person that just sinfected a townie the night before?** ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1014 "2009-05-10T01:01:14Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > When did you find out? (ie, the end of Day 1?, middle of the night? Beginning of Day 2?) I think it was the beginning of Day 2…that would explain it, I couldn’t have prayed during the middle of the night then, could I? The PM is titled, “During The Night…” ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1015 "2009-05-10T01:03:42Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > I think it was the beginning of Day 2…that would explain it, I couldn’t have prayed during the middle of the night then, could I? The PM is titled, “During The Night…” Have you decided to pray yet? If so, since when? ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1016 "2009-05-10T01:08:15Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Have you decided to pray yet? If so, since when? I was asked in that PM (which I posted a copy of earlier) what I chose to do. So as soon as I saw the PM (which apparently was quite a bit after pedescribe sent it to me) I responded that I chose to pray. The response I got to that was “Noted.” So all along I’ve been thinking I got the PM in the night and started praying immediately, but that’s not the case. Now I understand what you all have in mind with Paul and me. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1017 "2009-05-10T01:21:28Z")
I think, in order to purify yourself, you would have to PM Pede during TWO nights that you are going to pray. If you have a power role, you wouldn’t be able to use it during the nights you chose to pray. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1018 "2009-05-10T01:25:34Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > Okay…then I have to ask my question again. If there’s already been one game night where I prayed, then how can Paul prove that he diSinfected me last night? I will pray tonight and I should be okay tomorrow. > > @Special Ed: I’m in 3 games right now. I’m in over my head. 3? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1019 "2009-05-10T01:27:46Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > 😕 > > Ok. > > The long and short of it is this, if we are going to lose ANOTHER player for a non in-game reason, I think we should fast-forward the in game clock, or something. > > At the very least, If we are getting someone NEW in, then we SHOULD reset all of the current votes. > > We WILL get new informaiton from new players. > > I don’t think I have I am currently voting, but, just to make sure : > > \*\*Unvote whomever I was voting for, If I was voting for someone. \*\* > > I don’t think it is fair to maintain a vote to one person or another, when the game WILL change, regardless of any Vote, or No vote, or both. What do you mean 'fast forward the game? Why do I think that means give up our Day? Giving up our Day is bad. Giving up our lynch is bad. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1020 "2009-05-10T01:33:18Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > What do you mean 'fast forward the game? > > Why do I think that means give up our Day? Giving up our Day is bad. Giving up our lynch is bad. Ok, Is captain still in? Is Freudian, or Thing still in ? This game is quicksand as is. If we lose people out of game right now, the game will change. We need some compensation for that. One way, or another. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=50) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=52)