# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1021 "2009-05-10T01:34:42Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Ok, Is captain still in? Is Freudian, or Thing still in ? > > This game is quicksand as is. If we lose people out of game right now, the game will change. > > We need some compensation for that. One way, or another. we need compensation? And what type of compensation can we get? How is fast forwarding the game helping? That helps Scum. We’re Town, meeko. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1022 "2009-05-10T02:10:17Z")
I’m thinking Meeko means rewind, not fast forward. It sounds like he’s asking for Day 2 to start over. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1023 "2009-05-10T03:28:46Z")
You have to admit, all of the subs we’ve had have made our job a lot harder. How are we supposed to find any patterns in a “player” who’s been three different people in two Days? Short of moderator intervention, though, I don’t think there’s anything we can do about it. For future reference, though, I think we might have one too many simultaneous Mafia games running, within our group. When the next one ends (whichever one that is), we probably shouldn’t start a new one immediately. For that matter, **sachertorte** ’s Not-So-Simple game (which had no substitutions) had a significant chunk of the population end up getting mod-killed for nonparticipation. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1024 "2009-05-10T03:31:18Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > we need compensation? And what type of compensation can we get? How is fast forwarding the game helping? That helps Scum. We’re Town, meeko. And if Captain and Thing/Freudian leave, we end up one day short as it is. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1025 "2009-05-10T03:37:07Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > And if Captain and Thing/Freudian leave, we end up one day short as it is. How does that make us one Day short? Do you mean the game might last a Day less because there would be 2 fewer potential deaths? We don’t know the alignment of the people who are not participating. They may very well be Scum. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1026 "2009-05-10T03:37:43Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > And if Captain and Thing/Freudian leave, we end up one day short as it is. Seriously Meeko, WTF does that even mean? You haven’t made a whole lot of sense in this game and you seem to be slowing the whole process down. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1027 "2009-05-10T04:25:43Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Seriously Meeko, WTF does that even mean? > > You haven’t made a whole lot of sense in this game and you seem to be slowing the whole process down. If Captain Pinkies and Freudian Slit both exit, due to out of game reasons, we will effectively lose a day in game. Not sure that was that hard. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1028 "2009-05-10T04:30:31Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > If Captain Pinkies and Freudian Slit both exit, due to out of game reasons, we will effectively lose a day in game. > > Not sure that was that hard. Not sure that’s true. I assume what you mean is. If Captain and Freudian and mod killed and both were Town, we’ll reach lynch or lose a Day earlier. That’s true, but isn’t there also a chance they are Scum or Sinner? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1029 "2009-05-10T04:34:21Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > If Captain Pinkies and Freudian Slit both exit, due to out of game reasons, we will effectively lose a day in game. > > Not sure that was that hard. Actually it made sense after I read it a few times. Remember, this is after you asked if the game could be fast forwarded to make up for players being subbed out. Don’t forget, we only ‘lose a day’ if they are town, if they are sinners or blackhearts, we gain a day. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1030 "2009-05-10T04:35:24Z")
Wow, did it really take me 4 minutes to write that? ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1031 "2009-05-10T05:20:57Z")
Looks like I haven’t missed much. There has been a lot of talk about the proposal to put \*\*paul \*\*to the test, but neither **paul** nor anybody else has addressed my question about whether \*\*paul \*\* has actually agreed to said test, so I’m going to assume for now the answer is no. Accordingly, **unvote Angel of the North** \*\* vote paulwhoisaghost\*\* for reasons discussed earlier… ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1032 "2009-05-10T05:42:21Z")
I’ve got good news and bad news… The good news is that I found a replacement for Mr. Pinkies! Please welcome peekercpa when he gets here. The bad news is that Freudian Slit asked to be subbed out. Which means I’m still short one player. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1033 "2009-05-10T05:43:48Z")
Well crap. I really need to read the thread first. I’ll be right back…maybe I can sort out this mess… ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1034 "2009-05-10T05:48:18Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > I’ve got good news and bad news… > > The good news is that I found a replacement for Mr. Pinkies! Please welcome peekercpa when he gets here. > > The bad news is that Freudian Slit asked to be subbed out. Which means I’m still short one player. o.O You just made my day Pede. I wish I could say as much for everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1035 "2009-05-10T05:50:05Z")
Peekers, you reputation comes before you. I’m not sure if I should be scared of you, or taking notes. 😃 However, simply know this, I am about to enjoy this game 1000% more now. This will be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1036 "2009-05-10T05:51:53Z")
Alright…when Peeker gets back to me, I’ll know whether or not he’s subbing in for Freudian Slit. Also, vote count! Vote Count! Paulwhoisaghost (4): Rysto, Freudian Slit, Mahaloth, TF Captain Pinkies (1): Chronos Joey P. (1): Allwalker Chronos (1): Special Ed Thing Fish (1): AngeloftheNorth Replacement Count: Replace Captain Pinkies (3):Mahaloth, AllWalker, Chronos ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1037 "2009-05-10T05:53:17Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > **Is any consideration given, with respect to purification, if we lynch the person that just sinfected a townie the night before?** Nope. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1038 "2009-05-10T05:54:08Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Looks like I haven’t missed much. There has been a lot of talk about the proposal to put \*\*paul \*\*to the test, but neither **paul** nor anybody else has addressed my question about whether \*\*paul \*\* has actually agreed to said test, so I’m going to assume for now the answer is no. I remember you mentioning that before. I suppose we should make sure Paul agrees to this. Considering Paul claims three other powers AND Angel can pray to purify, Paul may have something else planned for toNight. Also, I still don’t think the ‘test’ proves anything. In fact, if Paul isn’t town, it’s a GREAT way to ‘prove’ he is town (or at least help him prove it). ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1039 "2009-05-10T06:02:21Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I remember you mentioning that before. > I suppose we should make sure Paul agrees to this. Considering Paul claims three other powers AND Angel can pray to purify, Paul may have something else planned for toNight. Also, I still don’t think the ‘test’ proves anything. In fact, if Paul isn’t town, it’s a GREAT way to ‘prove’ he is town (or at least help him prove it). \*\* I think we are trying to prove a negative here.\*\* By that, I simply mean, there is no way we can make this work, we don’t have the power where we need it. We are relying on too much outside information here. I have no immediate reason to suspect Angel, but if they dont play along. Then where are we? And if Angel and Paul are working together? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1040 "2009-05-10T06:15:13Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > \*\* > > And if Angel and Paul are working together? That’s the problem, they don’t have to be working together. If Paul is anti-town he’s just using her to show that he is town. If he is town, doing this won’t confirm him anymore then he is right now. Now that’s not to say he shouldn’t dissinfect her, it’s just to say that, in my mind, it doesn’t prove anything. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=51) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=53)