# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1081 "2009-05-11T14:59:57Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I mentioned it up thread, but the two people that really pinged me (Meeko and Paul) both wound up claiming.

That just makes it harder to vote, not impossible. There’s usually someone who is acting a bit off, or some nagging suspicion in your mind. If not, you need to find some.

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**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1082 "2009-05-11T15:12:17Z")

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I ended up not voting because having the Day end on a weekend, especially Mother’s Day weekend, pretty much guarantees I won’t be around for it. I really didn’t have time to vote between asking for more information from Ed and Paul and the Day ending.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1083 "2009-05-11T17:43:03Z")

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It doesn’t really do much for your claim that “you don’t post much, but when you do it’s substantive”, though. If you’re not going to be around on the weekend, then place your vote beforehand. Even someone who just voted with no reason given and said nothing else would be providing more substance than you have, thus far.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1084 "2009-05-11T17:52:30Z")

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Incidentally, some technically-useful information:

On the main forum page, if you click on the number of replies to a thread, it brings up a page that lists everyone who’s posted to the thread, and how many posts they have. If you then click on the number of posts on that thread, it gives you a list of all that person’s posts (I’d thought there was a feature something like this for a while, but I only just now had occasion to test it).

Doing this for **Nanook** , I find that he has five posts in this thread. The first one was before the game started, so we can ignore that. The [second one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11092106#post11092106) was a defense of me, that Town shouldn’t lynch the loud on Day 1, and of Angel, since the edit window is too short to do damage, plus a vote for **Spurious** , since it was “a decent Day 1 bandwagon”. This was his only substantive post in the thread. The other three are all explaining why he doesn’t post much, but that’s OK. One substantive post, plus three more fluff posts that say that the small number of posts is OK because most of them are substantive, is pretty pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1085 "2009-05-12T03:13:25Z")

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It’s a quiet night tonight.

… too quiet.

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1086 "2009-05-12T10:04:54Z")

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6 more hours, right? I’ve got my pitch fork and torch ready!

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1087 "2009-05-12T15:55:31Z")

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After a successful day before, and a relatively sound night, things were starting to look up for the little village. Most everyone, again, had been woken up and gathered in the center square. But there was one person missing.

Paulwhoisaghost lived on the outskirts of town, in a tent. He had asked to be specifically excluded from the waking-up ritual, as he liked to find his own 'circadian rhythms. Everything about him screamed outsider. But he was friendly, and warm, and he seemed nice enough. But now he was missing. Had he simply up and left, off to the new town? No. His tent was still there. And inside–a rampage had taken place.

Everything was broken. Pots were smashed, the tarp was slit, the shelves were broken. Splinters, pages, blood were all strewn all over. And in the middle, his body lay, deliberately disfigured. Clearly whoever was killing had serious anger issues.

But who was Paulwhoisaghost? Well, like in most stories with a drifter, he was a charismatic young man who lived off the land. He was a preacher, the direct product of the Great Awakening. He would visit cities that had lost their way and host large prayer revivals. He could exorcise those plauged with personal demons, or sermonize for hours. And he had a large, oramental sword.

Paulwhoisaghost, the Traveling Preacher (Town Minion Master), is dead.

Day 3.

Day ends Sunday Noon, as usual.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1088 "2009-05-12T15:56:39Z")

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A Minion Master is a role similar to an inventor (large variety of one-shot abilities), except a Minion Master works with a specific resource. In many games, he is a necromancer, where the resource is the dead. In this game, his resource was Sin.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1089 "2009-05-12T16:03:37Z")

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So much for my suspicions of paul.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1090 "2009-05-12T16:17:15Z")

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Wait.

Does this mean Paul’s claim was fully accurate, or was he hiding some part of it?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1091 "2009-05-12T16:33:41Z")

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He was a pure townie when he died, based on the color of his death notice, so we should probably assume that he was telling the truth. Unless, of course, he was angling to be recruited by the Sinners, and just hadn’t gotten the Seed of Sin yet to have the opportunity to convert.

And I’m having a hard time figuring out what part of his claimed role could be described as “minion master”, since unlike a necromancer, he didn’t seem to have any minions.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1092 "2009-05-12T16:37:28Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And I’m having a hard time figuring out what part of his claimed role could be described as “minion master”, since unlike a necromancer, he didn’t seem to have any minions.

It’s a generic term.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1093 "2009-05-12T16:42:54Z")

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Shoot.

My vote was bought during the Night. I won’t be allowed to vote until Ped tells me to.

I can still participate in discussion, though.

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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1094 "2009-05-12T16:54:06Z")

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Ugh…that’s a serious loss.

Well, Paul successfully purged me of the seed of sin last night.

Going to post my PM.

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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1095 "2009-05-12T16:56:19Z")

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pedescribe pedescribe is online now  
Guest

Join Date: Mar 2008  
Last night  
You were forcefully purged of the seed of sin.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1096 "2009-05-12T16:58:14Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> A Minion Master is a role similar to an inventor (large variety of one-shot abilities), except a Minion Master works with a specific resource. In many games, he is a necromancer, where the resource is the dead. In this game, his resource was Sin.

> [@Meeko](#):
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> Do you think, just maybe, that Paul is a Jack of All Trades type, and can only do each item listed just once?

Well. I guess I was right too. Not that it matters now.

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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1097 "2009-05-12T17:00:22Z")

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So…Meeko and Special Ed…I know this doesn’t confirm me as town, but I AM town and you two are the closest we have to confirmed town. I intend to vote along with you guys to lessen a chance of a mislynch.

Since the two of you seem to be at odds, it might help town if you can find a way to work together.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1098 "2009-05-12T17:03:17Z")

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> [@AngeloftheNorth](#):
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> Ugh…that’s a serious loss.

\*\*1. Paul posted his PM IN Game. No one made him do that.

1. Paul Survived a 50/50 chance at the vote.

3.Did you really think that Paul was going to make it, claiming what he claimed?  
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I think I tied my Logic into a Pretzel trying to figure out Paul.

Something snowballed / bandwagoned on him, at the EXACT wrong time.  
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But Frankly, after he posted that he had that much of a power role, one side, or the other knew immediately if he was lying or not. \*\*

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1099 "2009-05-12T17:23:44Z")

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At least it looks like he purged Angel BEFORE he was killed.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1100 "2009-05-12T17:33:06Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Shoot.
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> My vote was bought during the Night. I won’t be allowed to vote until Ped tells me to.
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> I can still participate in discussion, though.

Well, something interesting to look at is that Paul said his vote was bought yesterDay, he voted for Captain Pinkies, this created a tie between Pinkies and Paul, if that person had decided to not make paul vote (assuming that’s allowed. If you buy a vote, can you make the person not vote) Paul would have died yesterday.  
Not sure if that’s interesting or not, but it seems useful.

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